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#1: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-14 20:30:43 by patrick mitchel

If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the car have to be
brought up to california emissions standards to be registered in california?
Thanks Pat

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#2: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-14 22:55:48 by Mike

&quot;patrick mitchel&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:patm317&#64;lafn.org" target="_blank">patm317&#64;lafn.org</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:frejph$2r4q$<a href="mailto:1&#64;zook.lafn.org..." target="_blank">1&#64;zook.lafn.org...</a>
&gt; If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the car have to be
&gt; brought up to california emissions standards to be registered in california?
&gt; Thanks Pat

A 50 state car would already meet california emission standards.

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#3: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 02:27:15 by Rodan

If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the
car have to be brought up to california emissions
standards to be registered in california? patrick.
____________________________________________

A 50 state car would already meet california
emission standards. Mike.
_____________________________________________

In California, there are special standards for emissions
and equipment on cars originally sold in California.
Vehicles originally sold in other states have different
standards. Emissions Inspection stations connected
to the California DMV know which standards to apply.

Rodan.

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#4: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 03:04:31 by aarcuda69062

In article &lt;TBFCj.1826$<a href="mailto:2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01" target="_blank">2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01</a>&gt;,
&quot;Rodan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT" target="_blank">Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the
&gt; car have to be brought up to california emissions
&gt; standards to be registered in california? patrick.
&gt; ____________________________________________
&gt;
&gt; A 50 state car would already meet california
&gt; emission standards. Mike.
&gt; _____________________________________________
&gt;
&gt; In California, there are special standards for emissions
&gt; and equipment on cars originally sold in California.

How many states are in the union?
Is California one of those states?

&gt; Vehicles originally sold in other states have different
&gt; standards. Emissions Inspection stations connected
&gt; to the California DMV know which standards to apply.
&gt;
&gt; Rodan.

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#5: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 03:08:09 by csr684NOT

Rodan wrote:
&gt; If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the car have to be
&gt; brought up to california emissions standards to be registered in
&gt; california? patrick.
&gt; ____________________________________________
&gt;
&gt; A 50 state car would already meet california emission standards.
&gt; Mike. _____________________________________________
&gt;
&gt; In California, there are special standards for emissions and
&gt; equipment on cars originally sold in California. Vehicles originally
&gt; sold in other states have different standards. Emissions Inspection
&gt; stations connected to the California DMV know which standards to
&gt; apply.
&gt;
&gt; Rodan.
&gt;
&gt;

And a car that was already 50 state legal would have the California
legal package.
Do the math. The U.S. has 50 states
If a car is 50 state legal then what state isn't it legal in?

Now if it's a 49 state car (which is what the OP probably was asking)
then it meets the standards of all the states EXCEPT California.


&gt; The Bottom Line
&gt;
&gt; If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck or
&gt; motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet
&gt; California smog laws in order to be registered here. Aren't All
&gt; Vehicles California Certified?
&gt;
&gt; Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold to California
&gt; residents or businesses. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold
&gt; in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-State) are made with smog
&gt; equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California
&gt; standards. 50-State or California certified vehicles are made to be
&gt; sold to California residents. What Is Considered a New Vehicle?
&gt;
&gt; California law considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on
&gt; the odometer when acquired by a California resident or business to be
&gt; a new vehicle. This holds true whether or not the vehicle has been
&gt; registered in another state. If you acquire a new vehicle from
&gt; another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over
&gt; 7,500 miles to circumvent the law. DMV cannot accept an application
&gt; to register the vehicle, and you cannot register or operate the
&gt; vehicle in California. Exceptions
&gt;
&gt; As usual, there are a few exceptions included in the law. As a
&gt; California resident or business you may be able to register a
&gt; 49-State vehicle if you:
&gt;
&gt; * Obtained it as part of a divorce or inheritance settlement. *
&gt; Purchased it to replace a vehicle stolen while you were using it out
&gt; of state. * Purchased it to replace a vehicle which was destroyed or
&gt; made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using it out
&gt; of state. * Were on active military duty outside California, and you
&gt; registered the vehicle in the state of your last military service.
&gt;
&gt; Check the Label
&gt;
&gt; To find out whether a car or truck is California Certified, check the
&gt; emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle check the headset or
&gt; frame. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California
&gt; regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.
&gt;
&gt; Does This Apply to Someone Moving to California?
&gt;
&gt; If you are moving to California from another state, you may register
&gt; a new federally certified vehicle in California if it was first
&gt; registered by you in your home state, or for military personnel, in
&gt; your last state of military service. When applying for vehicle
&gt; registration in California, you must provide evidence of your
&gt; vehicle's previous registration and that you were a resident of the
&gt; other state when you acquired the vehicle. Vehicles Purchased From
&gt; Out of the Country
&gt;
&gt; California has special requirements for vehicles imported from other
&gt; countries (including Canada and Mexico). It may be very costly and in
&gt; some cases impossible to modify these vehicles to meet California
&gt; emission requirements and/or federal motor vehicle safety standards.
&gt; For example, vehicles manufactured to be sold in Europe (gray market
&gt; vehicles) less than two years old are not legal for registration or
&gt; use in California.




--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

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#6: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 04:00:37 by tegger

aarcuda69062 &lt;<a href="mailto:nonelson&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">nonelson&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote in news:nonelson-
<a href="mailto:A74877.21043114032008&#64;news.chi.sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">A74877.21043114032008&#64;news.chi.sbcglobal.net</a>:

&gt; In article &lt;TBFCj.1826$<a href="mailto:2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01" target="_blank">2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;Rodan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT" target="_blank">Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the
&gt;&gt; car have to be brought up to california emissions
&gt;&gt; standards to be registered in california? patrick.
&gt;&gt; ____________________________________________
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; A 50 state car would already meet california
&gt;&gt; emission standards. Mike.
&gt;&gt; _____________________________________________
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; In California, there are special standards for emissions
&gt;&gt; and equipment on cars originally sold in California.
&gt;
&gt; How many states are in the union?
&gt; Is California one of those states?



There are 51 states. Canada is that extra one. ;^)



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#7: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 05:08:04 by aarcuda69062

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns9A61EA0E513D2tegger&#64;207.14.116.130" target="_blank">Xns9A61EA0E513D2tegger&#64;207.14.116.130</a>&gt;,
Tegger &lt;<a href="mailto:tegger&#64;tegger.c0m" target="_blank">tegger&#64;tegger.c0m</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; aarcuda69062 &lt;<a href="mailto:nonelson&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">nonelson&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote in news:nonelson-
&gt; <a href="mailto:A74877.21043114032008&#64;news.chi.sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">A74877.21043114032008&#64;news.chi.sbcglobal.net</a>:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; In article &lt;TBFCj.1826$<a href="mailto:2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01" target="_blank">2Y4.1372&#64;trndny01</a>&gt;,
&gt; &gt; &quot;Rodan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT" target="_blank">Rodan&#64;verizon.NOT</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If a 50 state car is brought into california, does the
&gt; &gt;&gt; car have to be brought up to california emissions
&gt; &gt;&gt; standards to be registered in california? patrick.
&gt; &gt;&gt; ____________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; A 50 state car would already meet california
&gt; &gt;&gt; emission standards. Mike.
&gt; &gt;&gt; _____________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; In California, there are special standards for emissions
&gt; &gt;&gt; and equipment on cars originally sold in California.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; How many states are in the union?
&gt; &gt; Is California one of those states?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; There are 51 states. Canada is that extra one. ;^)

Nope, it's s suburb of Wisconsin.

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#8: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 05:28:47 by patrick mitchel

OK, My bad. it's a 49 state car (82 porsche 911) and the guy is trying to
sell it to my next door neighbor who's hot to trot. I told him for the price
and what it needs, he's crazy to drop the cash for the thing (which needs
windshield, steering wheel, synchros, a bit of rust(!) paint- not to mention
that it's an oregon car and failed the first try at smogging- those are the
knowns). All for 12 k U$. The neighbor thinks he's getting a daily driver
and selling a perfectly fine iinfiniti to finance the beast. Perhaps I
should keep my BIG mouth shut (take up US history to find how many states
there are!) and wait for the comedy to follow- my neighbor doesn't know
which end of a phillips head screwdriver to use. Pat

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#9: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 05:40:22 by tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS

In article &lt;frfja3$6c9$<a href="mailto:1&#64;zook.lafn.org" target="_blank">1&#64;zook.lafn.org</a>&gt;, patrick mitchel wrote:
&gt; OK, My bad. it's a 49 state car (82 porsche 911) and the guy is trying to
&gt;sell it to my next door neighbor who's hot to trot. I told him for the price
&gt;and what it needs, he's crazy to drop the cash for the thing (which needs
&gt;windshield, steering wheel, synchros, a bit of rust(!) paint- not to mention
&gt;that it's an oregon car and failed the first try at smogging- those are the
&gt;knowns). All for 12 k U$. The neighbor thinks he's getting a daily driver
&gt;and selling a perfectly fine iinfiniti to finance the beast. Perhaps I
&gt;should keep my BIG mouth shut (take up US history to find how many states
&gt;there are!) and wait for the comedy to follow- my neighbor doesn't know
&gt;which end of a phillips head screwdriver to use. Pat

I've seen '80s 911's that had good paint, good glass, and didn't seem
beat up for just under 20 grand. Paying 12 for a beater seems really
stupid.... especially with how fast the repair costs will tally up.

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#10: Re: california emissions/50 state question

Posted on 2008-03-15 05:55:53 by csr684NOT

patrick mitchel wrote:
&gt; OK, My bad. it's a 49 state car (82 porsche 911) and the guy is trying to
&gt; sell it to my next door neighbor who's hot to trot. I told him for the price
&gt; and what it needs, he's crazy to drop the cash for the thing (which needs
&gt; windshield, steering wheel, synchros, a bit of rust(!) paint- not to mention
&gt; that it's an oregon car and failed the first try at smogging- those are the
&gt; knowns). All for 12 k U$. The neighbor thinks he's getting a daily driver
&gt; and selling a perfectly fine iinfiniti to finance the beast. Perhaps I
&gt; should keep my BIG mouth shut (take up US history to find how many states
&gt; there are!) and wait for the comedy to follow- my neighbor doesn't know
&gt; which end of a phillips head screwdriver to use. Pat
&gt;
&gt;

Well I hope he likes getting stuck. Maybe tell him it will be legal when
he becomes Governor? Or he could wait until 2012 when it will be a
classic and exempt from the smog laws.

<a href="http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm" target="_blank">http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm</a>
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