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#1: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 19:25:43 by jojo

Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....

I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big picture.
Staggered formation, passing ect.

Can I ask a few details here?

For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
belts.

ok...specific questions...

At a stop sign:
1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what cars are
expecting,
or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a group together?)
same stop sign:
2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we "team up" at the sign,
remain staggered, or single file?
My questions about how to handle turns at the stop sign depend onthe answer
to the above question, so
I'll save it for now.

Question 2 also applies to traffic lights, or are there different rules for
each?

Thanks all!

jojo

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#2: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:19:47 by Jinks

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:25:43 GMT, "jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....
>
>I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big picture.
>Staggered formation, passing ect.
>
>Can I ask a few details here?
>
>For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
>I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
>belts.
>
>ok...specific questions...
>
>At a stop sign:
>1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what cars are
>expecting,
>or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a group together?)

About the best you can say for cars is that they expect a
chance to kill you. Keeping that in mind will go a long ways toward
making you safe.
There aren't any hard rules about intersections, but here are
a couple of *suggestions*. If you have no more than 4 in your group &
there's no traffic trying to *rush* through the intersection, the
folks I ride with tend to cross as a group. If there's *any* doubt,
the leader should wait for the intersection to clear to avoid
spreading the group out. At the same time the others are responsible
for their own ride. I'll let the group get ahead before I'll try to
beat a car/truck through an intersection. Every intersection is a new
challenge & preserving your own safety is your first obligation.

>same stop sign:
>2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we "team up" at the sign,
>remain staggered, or single file?

Group up at the stop. You can spread out again on the other
side, but a spread of staggered/single file bikes is nearly impossible
to get through an intersection together.

>My questions about how to handle turns at the stop sign depend onthe answer
>to the above question, so
>I'll save it for now.
>
>Question 2 also applies to traffic lights, or are there different rules for
>each?

There are a lot of different answers to each situation, &
group riding can be one of the most dangerous rides you'll ever take.
If you keep your group small & learn each others riding habits it gets
safer, but avoid large group rides until you have a lot more
experience. I'm not sure where your are located, but I'd suggest
going to one of the IRL get togethers you'll see posted in here &
discuss group riding with some of the riders there. You'll get a lot
of varying opinions & some great detailed advice.


Jinks ('86fxrs,'02 K1200LT,'95 Triumph Sprint)
#64

Remember, "No good deed goes unpunished"

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#3: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:23:10 by buchanan.greg.remove

Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
and all of these questions before the ride leaves.

Greg

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#4: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:25:27 by steevenb

Jinks wrote:
<snip>
You'll get a lot
> of varying opinions & some great detailed advice.
> Jinks ('86fxrs,'02 K1200LT,'95 Triumph Sprint)
> #64

you've got no idea how much self control i had to exercise when i read
your post Mr J....and ya know all this safety stuff is WAAAY overated,
you really need to "do it NYC" style - every man on his own an the last
one to the bar buys - thats all ya need to know - right?

steevenb43
www.steveb.biz

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#5: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:29:34 by Doug Rogers

Greg B. sezz:
> Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
> and all of these questions before the ride leaves.

Better idea:

Go to the HOG ride and listen to what they say before they leave and then
wave to them as they leave and go on your *own* merry way / ride. A large
group ride is no place for jojo right now...
--
Later,
D-Rog <IMHO, YMMV, etc>
'98 FLHRCI - "Stella"
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#6: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:40:07 by Jinks

On 31 Jan 2006 11:25:27 -0800, &quot;steevenb&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cc001099&#64;mindspring.com" target="_blank">cc001099&#64;mindspring.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Jinks wrote:
&gt;&lt;snip&gt;
&gt;You'll get a lot
&gt;&gt; of varying opinions &amp; some great detailed advice.
&gt;&gt; Jinks ('86fxrs,'02 K1200LT,'95 Triumph Sprint)
&gt;&gt; #64
&gt;
&gt;you've got no idea how much self control i had to exercise when i read
&gt;your post Mr J....and ya know all this safety stuff is WAAAY overated,
&gt;you really need to &quot;do it NYC&quot; style - every man on his own an the last
&gt;one to the bar buys - thats all ya need to know - right?
&gt;
&gt;steevenb43
&gt;www.steveb.biz

Just tryin' to give the newby a chance to get as old as us.
NYC style opportunities will present themselves somewhere along the
line.................8^)
You comin' by The Compound durin' Bike Week? We're back at
the old location while the new place is bein' rebuilt.


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#64

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#7: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:40:54 by James Rook

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:25:43 GMT, &quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt;
wrote:

&gt;Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....
&gt;
&gt;I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big picture.
&gt;Staggered formation, passing ect.
&gt;
&gt;Can I ask a few details here?
&gt;
&gt;For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
&gt;I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
&gt;belts.
&gt;
&gt;ok...specific questions...
&gt;
&gt;At a stop sign:
&gt;1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what cars are
&gt;expecting,
&gt;or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a group together?)
&gt;same stop sign:
&gt;2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we &quot;team up&quot; at the sign,
&gt;remain staggered, or single file?
&gt;My questions about how to handle turns at the stop sign depend onthe answer
&gt;to the above question, so
&gt;I'll save it for now.
&gt;
&gt;Question 2 also applies to traffic lights, or are there different rules for
&gt;each?
&gt;
&gt;Thanks all!
&gt;
&gt;jojo
&gt;
&gt;
You'll probably get a few differing answers to this but here goes.
1. IMHO, legally you are all on separate vehicles and have to obey the
appropriate traffic laws in your jurisdiction. Here in MD that means
the first vehicle with the right-of-way goes then the second, etc. So,
you would go one at a time letting opposing vehicles take their turns.
Harder to keep a group together yes, but safer especially with
inexperienced riders. You do not want anyone blocking your vision or
an escape route.
Who knows what cagers are expecting. I don't trust any of 'em. Neither
should you.
2. Again, laws vary but here we are supposed to remain in a staggered
formation at stops. (VA also has some pretty strict rules about
remaining in staggered formation while riding but that's another
ticket - er, story).
Now off the record and not legally correct, when I am riding with my
Club - ah, group, we put out Road Captains that block intersections
and keep the group together. We all ride side-by-side and all go at
the same time. One bike is a target, thirty or forty or more riding
together have at least a little &quot;intimidation factor&quot;. Probably not
safe or politically correct and definitely not legal, but there is no
other way to keep that many bikes together, in traffic. (We do not
take more risks than necessary - a cage that breaks into the pack will
be let in - we just go slower - and slower - anndd sslowwwer until he
leaves). We've been evolving our rules of the road for a long time and
they work for us. There's a whole nother level of skills you need for
pack riding. I would urge you to go slow with it until you have a good
handle on your abilities. You'll have to find out what works best and
is safe and legal for your group and your area.

Hazy

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#8: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:45:23 by buchanan.greg.remove

&gt; Better idea:
&gt;
&gt; Go to the HOG ride and listen to what they say before they leave and then
&gt; wave to them as they leave and go on your *own* merry way / ride.


Ahh, yes, thats a better idea. But they go so damn early. LMAO they
are usually back from thier ride before I am awake from the night before.

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#9: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:50:42 by Mongo Santamaria

D-Rog wrote:

&gt; Greg B. sezz:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
&gt;&gt;and all of these questions before the ride leaves.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Better idea:
&gt;
&gt; Go to the HOG ride and listen to what they say before they leave and then
&gt; wave to them as they leave and go on your *own* merry way / ride. A large
&gt; group ride is no place for jojo right now...
&gt; --
&gt; Later,
&gt; D-Rog &lt;IMHO, YMMV, etc&gt;

I totally agree with the D-Rog.

But MY reason is, I just don't like &quot;group grope rides&quot;.
I just don't like riding like a pack rat in a group.

I did it once at one &quot;Mammary&quot;, and I was scared shitless, after being
stuffed into the middle, when and AFTER I told the &quot;group leader&quot; that I
would rather prefer to be at the end, and follow!

I hated it!

I couldn't concentrate, as I had obviosly better/more experianced (or so
they thought) riders ON MY ASS!
Too close for _my_ comfort!

I was being pushed on a road that my limits became spooky!

Never again will I ride amongst or with a group/pack.

I was hemmed in, and had some asshole blaring his horn and wanting to
pass me when I was trying to just negotiate new found territory!

Therfore, when I ride. I ride with and by myself... not with a group of
unknowns that try to kick me off into the abyss.

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#10: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 21:04:11 by Doug Rogers

Greg B. sezz:
&gt;&gt; Better idea:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Go to the HOG ride and listen to what they say before they leave and
&gt;&gt; then wave to them as they leave and go on your *own* merry way /
&gt;&gt; ride.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Ahh, yes, thats a better idea. But they go so damn early. LMAO they
&gt; are usually back from thier ride before I am awake from the night
&gt; before.

Hey Greg B!!

See how it says who typed the quoted message up there? It looks sort of
like you typed it all doesn't it?

I know who typed it - because it was me! Make sure you are attributing your
quotes to those who wrote them. It makes following threads so much
easier...
--
Later,
D-Rog
'98 FLHRCI - &quot;Stella&quot;
<a href="http://www.d-rog.net/" target="_blank">http://www.d-rog.net/</a>

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#11: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-01-31 23:15:21 by roach

jojo wrote:
&gt; Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....
&gt;
&gt; I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big
&gt; picture. Staggered formation, passing ect.
&gt;
&gt; Can I ask a few details here?

One piece of advice I'll give you, because it's something that
almost got me killed twice when I first started riding.

Make sure that you don't pay so much attention to the person
you're following that you forget to watch the road ahead.

roach

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#12: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 03:21:22 by dm

Jinks wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; Just tryin' to give the newby a chance to get as old as us.

Damn that's a high expectation. Not many get that far up.

Fins BS#221

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#13: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 04:36:46 by Franky Furter

&quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....
&gt;
&gt; I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big
picture.
&gt; Staggered formation, passing ect.
&gt;
&gt; Can I ask a few details here?
&gt;
&gt; For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
&gt; I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
&gt; belts.
&gt;
&gt; ok...specific questions...
&gt;
&gt; At a stop sign:
&gt; 1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what cars are
&gt; expecting,
&gt; or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a group together?)
&gt; same stop sign:

When we ride, we say screw the stop signs and just barge right on thru...so
many of us making a lot of noise so they better stop for us. We have no
respect for anyone but ourselves.

&gt; 2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we &quot;team up&quot; at the sign,
&gt; remain staggered, or single file?

We ussualy ride in a V formation.

&gt; My questions about how to handle turns at the stop sign depend onthe
answer
&gt; to the above question, so
&gt; I'll save it for now.

No please ask it....I am sure I can come up with an answer.
&gt;
&gt; Question 2 also applies to traffic lights, or are there different rules
for
&gt; each?

We treat traffic lights just like stop signs and just go thru them.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks all!
&gt;
&gt; jojo

You are so welcome JoJo.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#17: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 13:51:44 by Jinks

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:21:22 -0800, DM &lt;<a href="mailto:dm&#64;nospam.vfemail.net" target="_blank">dm&#64;nospam.vfemail.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Jinks wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; Just tryin' to give the newby a chance to get as old as us.
&gt;
&gt;Damn that's a high expectation. Not many get that far up.
&gt;
&gt;Fins BS#221

Gettin' old ain't for sissy's................


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#18: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 15:00:46 by kschofie

&gt; The perfesser wrote:
&gt; (snip to a lot of good newbie tips)

Gotta add one here from personal experience...

When travelling up twisy mountain passes where sight is limited, think
way ahead and allow much more space between bikes. Anticipate lead
riders coming to an abrupt stop to aviod unforseen obstacles (boulders,
emergency vehicles, deer, washouts, etc..). When accelerating up an
incline in a group, allow enough room to stop safely. Think ahead and
prepare to get out of the travel lane to allow riders behind you
adequate braking distance. Gravity works against you in this scenario.
Even slight deacceleration/mild braking can shorten up braking
distances considerably on moderate to steep inclines where typically
everone is shifting/accelerating and not anticipating a sudden stop.

Ken
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#19: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 20:59:41 by SuperGlide

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:25:43 GMT, &quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt;
wrote:

Thanks for the coffee. Although I am probably wrong, I am going to
assume you are serious.

&gt;At a stop sign:
&gt;1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what cars are
&gt;expecting, or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a group together?)

Motorcycles are licensed motor vehicles - Is it legal for a group of
cars to run a stop sign? Don't depend on what you asssume someone
else is thinking. That is a disaster waiting for a moment.

&gt;same stop sign:
&gt;2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we &quot;team up&quot; at the sign,
&gt;remain staggered, or single file?

Depends on the road - But, generally; Double up at the sign. Two go
through together then, again depending on the road, stagger or single
file.

UNLESS - (and I am assuming you are riding in the US - not England) -
the leader is going to make a right hand turn. Then it is best to let
the leader pull out first. Otherwise, you risk being driven into the
curb, off the road, or hitting the leader

&gt;My questions about how to handle turns at the stop sign depend onthe answer
&gt;to the above question, so
&gt;I'll save it for now.

Right hand turn, Leader goes first. Should swing wide (depending on
conditions) in order not to cut second rider off too sharply.

Left hand turn - Watch that the leader does not swing too wide and
force you off the road.

&gt;Question 2 also applies to traffic lights, or are there different rules for
&gt;each?

Same answer as number one.

Some said in another post said a new rider should ride at the back of
the group. WRONG - It is wrong if you have a knowledgeable and
responsible leader. The leader should pace the ride to the least
experienced rider and not put that rider in jeopardy. By riding
closer behind the leader (NOT TOO CLOSE!) - the leader can adopt a
comfortable pace.

Another reason an inexperienced rider should not riding at the rear of
a group is: - Rubber banding. Last rider has to ride like hell to
keep up with an expanding group. That is the worst spot for a new
rider.

Group riding can be dangerous. I was road captain for a group for two
years. Lead over 20 rides. As few as four riders, as many as 25, as
short as five miles, as long as 200. Never had a rider go down or get
lost. But it was as much good fortune as ability.

I ride a lot, but there are group rides that I have dropped out of
because the leader was an ass.

Use good judgment

SuperGlide

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#20: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-01 21:50:46 by jojo

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Thanks to all of you who responded.
For now, until I get a lot mor comfortable with this...the only
group riding we will be doing is me, my spouse, and maybe one or both of
both best friends.
Mainly, me and my spouse.

You have given me enough wonderful answers to know that we will decide on
these things up front before
we leave and that we will not be riding with strangers for a long while.

Thanks again all! Shirley, I know your busy, but could you get a round for
everyones time and patience.

jojo

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#22: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 03:25:28 by roach

<a href="mailto:SuperGlide&#64;bikernet.com" target="_blank">SuperGlide&#64;bikernet.com</a> wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:25:43 GMT, &quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the coffee. Although I am probably wrong, I am going to
&gt; assume you are serious.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean, coming from some twit that
walked in the door a couple days ago without a name or intro?

&gt;
&gt;&gt; At a stop sign:
&gt;&gt; 1. When the leader goes, do we all? Is this 'legal'? Is this what
&gt;&gt; cars are expecting, or do we go one at a time? (harder to keep a
&gt;&gt; group together?)
&gt;

&gt;&gt; 2. If we are riding in staggered formation, do we &quot;team up&quot; at the
&gt;&gt; sign, remain staggered, or single file?
&gt;
&gt; Depends on the road - But, generally; Double up at the sign. Two go
&gt; through together then, again depending on the road, stagger or single
&gt; file.
&gt;
&gt; UNLESS - (and I am assuming you are riding in the US - not England) -
&gt; the leader is going to make a right hand turn. Then it is best to let
&gt; the leader pull out first.

When is it not best for the leader to pull out first?

&gt;Otherwise, you risk being driven into the
&gt; curb, off the road, or hitting the leader

Duh?

&gt; Group riding can be dangerous. I was road captain for a group for two
&gt; years.

Well there ya go!


&gt;Lead over 20 rides. As few as four riders, as many as 25, as
&gt; short as five miles, as long as 200.

Dag!


&gt;Never had a rider go down or get
&gt; lost.

Sounds like some boring rides.


But it was as much good fortune as ability.

Obviously.



&gt;
&gt; I ride a lot, but there are group rides that I have dropped out of
&gt; because the leader was an ass.

You said it.
&gt;
&gt; Use good judgment
&gt;
&gt; SuperGlide

Get a nickname.

DodgeIntrepid

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#23: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 03:39:16 by Steve

roach wrote:

&gt;
&gt;&gt; Never had a rider go down or get
&gt;&gt; lost.
&gt;
&gt; Sounds like some boring rides.
&gt;

Yeah man, what fun would it be going without a blowjob (or at least a
kiss) and knowing exactly where the fuck yer at all the time.....if I
wanted to know where I was all the time, I'd get a frikkin GPS.

Half the fun I have is seeing stuff I don't recognize and then realizing
I don't know where the fuck I am........and then trying to figure out
how I can get back to where I need to be, before I run outa gas.....&lt;sfsf&gt;.

--
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#24: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 04:22:14 by Curt James

Roach writ:

re <a href="mailto:SuperGlide&#64;bikernet.com" target="_blank">SuperGlide&#64;bikernet.com</a>

&gt;Get a nickname.
&gt;
&gt;DodgeIntrepid

I commute on US 81 from Carlisle to Harrisburg and am typically amused
by Intrepids doing the speed limit. I'm a word geek and think of
intrepid as fearless, a daredevil adventurer and 55 mph does NOT make
me gasp in amazement at their fearlessness.

In related (but, yeah, also unsolicited) trivia, I was in the passing
lane and to my right was a woman in a truck with a personalized plate
that read WARRIOR. She was sitting at least three car-lengths behind
the vehicle in front of her.

Again, I amused myself with the seeming contradiction. Just picturing
a true warrior all over the guy's bumper, passing on the right, left,
hell, driving OVER the offending and in-the-way obstruction of a car
or truck.

Uh, did I mention...

&quot;Beertender, a round for the house, QUICK!&quot;

--
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#25: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 18:03:31 by Schmoe

&quot;SteveT&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rmh3&#64;no48panspam.com" target="_blank">rmh3&#64;no48panspam.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; 3. Do not, under any circumstances, try to keep up if the pace is
&gt; beyond your abilities or comfort level.

....or if riding behind Banker &amp; Don on twisty mountain roads.

&gt; 8. If your group stops every 50 miles for a beer... Don't ride with
&gt; them. Make a polite excuse and meet them at the destination.

Absolutely. Beer stops should be made after no less than 60 miles.

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#26: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 18:53:18 by Jinks

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:39:16 -0700, &quot;SteveI (Irv)&quot;

&lt;snip&gt;
&gt;Yeah man, what fun would it be going without a blowjob (or at least a
&gt;kiss) and knowing exactly where the fuck yer at all the time.....if I
&gt;wanted to know where I was all the time, I'd get a frikkin GPS.

&amp; you think *that* would work? Len! Roach! GPS will tell you
where you are *ALL* the time...........right?!..........8^)

&gt;Half the fun I have is seeing stuff I don't recognize and then realizing
&gt;I don't know where the fuck I am........and then trying to figure out
&gt;how I can get back to where I need to be, before I run outa gas.....&lt;sfsf&gt;.

Oh, ya got one...........sorry.............8^)


Jinks ('86fxrs,'02 K1200LT,'95 Triumph Sprint)
#64

Remember, &quot;No good deed goes unpunished&quot;

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#27: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 19:00:41 by ah104

Jinks sed:
&gt; &amp; you think *that* would work? Len! Roach!
&gt; GPS will tell you where you are
&gt;*ALL* the time...........right?!..........8^)

We were never lost.
We knew where we were all the time.
We just didn't know which way to go.

That's my story... etc.

ASSHOLE#104 Len
But I did get us to where we *weren't* lost without GPS!

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#28: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 19:01:12 by Steve

AH#104 wrote:
&gt; Jinks sed:
&gt;&gt; &amp; you think *that* would work? Len! Roach!
&gt;&gt; GPS will tell you where you are
&gt;&gt; *ALL* the time...........right?!..........8^)
&gt;
&gt; We were never lost.
&gt; We knew where we were all the time.
&gt; We just didn't know which way to go.
&gt;
&gt; That's my story... etc.
&gt;
&gt; ASSHOLE#104 Len
&gt; But I did get us to where we *weren't* lost without GPS!

Seems like I always know where I am, just isn't always where I wanted to
be........

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#29: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 19:26:09 by kschofie

SteveT wrote:
&gt; &quot;AH#70&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:kschofie&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">kschofie&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; :
&gt; :When travelling up twisy mountain passes where sight is limited, think
&gt; :way ahead and allow much more space between bikes. Anticipate lead
&gt; :riders coming to an abrupt stop to aviod unforseen obstacles
&gt;
&gt; No problem. Bob won't stop and you can't keep up anyway.

I always try to maintain a speed consistant with that of the conditions
around me.
As you're all well aware, &quot;safety first&quot; is my motto. Just ask Don.

Ken
HSB#07 WOLF#13 BS#92 AH#70 SENS
&quot;My guardian angel wears a hardhat&quot;

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#30: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-02 22:17:50 by Nancy

On 2006-01-31 08:25:43 -1000, &quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt; said:

&gt; Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....

Thanks for the green Gatorade!
&gt;
&gt; I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big picture.
&gt; Staggered formation, passing ect.
&gt;
&gt; Can I ask a few details here?
&gt;
&gt; For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
&gt; I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
&gt; belts.

Write again when you get out of the hospital and let us know how it went.
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Nancy, Bitch 27
'97 XL 1200 C
'87 FXR &quot;Highly Dangerous&quot; (thanks, sweetie)
slap my face to get my attention
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#31: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 03:31:35 by Dana Taramina

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:19:47 -0500, Jinks &lt;<a href="mailto:Jinks&#64;thecomputer.net" target="_blank">Jinks&#64;thecomputer.net</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt; About the best you can say for cars is that they expect a
&gt;chance to kill you. Keeping that in mind will go a long ways toward
&gt;making you safe.
&gt; There aren't any hard rules about intersections, but here are
&gt;a couple of *suggestions*. If you have no more than 4 in your group &amp;
&gt;there's no traffic trying to *rush* through the intersection, the
&gt;folks I ride with tend to cross as a group. If there's *any* doubt,
&gt;the leader should wait for the intersection to clear to avoid
&gt;spreading the group out. At the same time the others are responsible
&gt;for their own ride. I'll let the group get ahead before I'll try to
&gt;beat a car/truck through an intersection. Every intersection is a new
&gt;challenge &amp; preserving your own safety is your first obligation.


&gt; Group up at the stop. You can spread out again on the other
&gt;side, but a spread of staggered/single file bikes is nearly impossible
&gt;to get through an intersection together.
&gt;
&gt; There are a lot of different answers to each situation, &amp;
&gt;group riding can be one of the most dangerous rides you'll ever take.
&gt;If you keep your group small &amp; learn each others riding habits it gets
&gt;safer, but avoid large group rides until you have a lot more
&gt;experience. I'm not sure where your are located, but I'd suggest
&gt;going to one of the IRL get togethers you'll see posted in here &amp;
&gt;discuss group riding with some of the riders there. You'll get a lot
&gt;of varying opinions &amp; some great detailed advice.

Very well written. I couldn't figure out how to put it. But that's it.
In fact, that belongs in the FAQ.

Dana (back from Roatan. The weather's better there.)
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY Vi ret.
'05 FLHRSI &quot;Belle&quot;
'03 FLHTCUI

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#32: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 03:33:00 by Dana Taramina

On 31 Jan 2006 11:25:27 -0800, &quot;steevenb&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cc001099&#64;mindspring.com" target="_blank">cc001099&#64;mindspring.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;you've got no idea how much self control i had to exercise when i read
&gt;your post Mr J....and ya know all this safety stuff is WAAAY overated,
&gt;you really need to &quot;do it NYC&quot; style - every man on his own an the last
&gt;one to the bar buys - thats all ya need to know - right?

What, you're *trying* to get her killed? &lt;head shake&gt;

Dana
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY Vi ret.
'05 FLHRSI &quot;Belle&quot;
'03 FLHTCUI

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#33: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 03:34:23 by Dana Taramina

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:23:10 -0600, &quot;Greg B.&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com" target="_blank">buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
&gt;and all of these questions before the ride leaves.

Oh, puleeze. That's all she needs. A ride with 50 people who don't
know what they're doing or where they're going.

Dana
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY Vi ret.
'05 FLHRSI &quot;Belle&quot;
'03 FLHTCUI

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#34: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 03:57:20 by bresser

&quot;Dana Taramina&quot; wrote...
&gt;
&gt; What, you're *trying* to get her killed? &lt;head shake&gt;

I've me Jinks a few times, and he is definitely not a &quot;her&quot;.

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#35: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 13:47:23 by Spunky the Tuna

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:34:23 -0500, Dana Taramina wrote:

&gt; On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:23:10 -0600, &quot;Greg B.&quot;
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com" target="_blank">buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
&gt;&gt; and all of these questions before the ride leaves.
&gt;
&gt; Oh, puleeze. That's all she needs. A ride with 50 people who don't
&gt; know what they're doing or where they're going.

Welll, you know, you could look at it as an opportunity to see damn near all
of the worst riding habits possible in a compressed amount of time. If she
can ride in the middle of that kind of a pack, survive it and not kill
anybody in frustration, she might gain as much as a year's riding with some
folks that actually know what they're doing.

Or, as they say, not.
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just another atheist out there doing god's work...

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#36: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-06 17:15:03 by Dana Taramina

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 02:57:20 GMT, &quot;Arie Bresser&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:bresser&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">bresser&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&quot;Dana Taramina&quot; wrote...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; What, you're *trying* to get her killed? &lt;head shake&gt;
&gt;
&gt;I've me Jinks a few times, and he is definitely not a &quot;her&quot;.

I've met Jinks too. I wasn't referring to Jinks.

Dana
(But then again, &quot;last one to the bar buys&quot; is how I learned to ride)
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY VI ret.
'05 FLHRSI &quot;Belle&quot;
'03 FLHTCUI

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#37: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-07 02:22:16 by Old Rusty Pipes

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:25:43 GMT, &quot;jojo&quot; &lt;cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com&gt;
wrote:

&gt;Shirley, a mid day thirst quincher all around....
&gt;
&gt;I've googled group riding, and most of what I get is about the big picture.
&gt;Staggered formation, passing ect.
&gt;
&gt;Can I ask a few details here?
&gt;
&gt;For these questions, I'm assuming 2-4 in the group.
&gt;I am the least experienced, but non of us have any group riding under our
&gt;belts.

OK, I'm just a little late here, but what's the rush?? If you
haven't, you may wanna check out Putt's take in the FAQ.

Thanks for the Rollin' Rock in honor of the Stealers.


Steve in San Diego
XLH1200 SENS BS135 DOF#1951
FAQ's at <a href="http://rmhfaq.com" target="_blank">http://rmhfaq.com</a>
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#38: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-07 02:43:46 by snarl

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:22:16 GMT, Steve Reyer &lt;<a href="mailto:sreyer&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">sreyer&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;
wrote:

&lt;schnipp&gt;

&gt;Thanks for the Rollin' Rock in honor of the Stealers.

Yeah, congrats to th' Steelers and all their fans &lt;clink&gt;.

I'll buy th' next round.

Snarl

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#39: Re: group riding questions

Posted on 2006-02-08 11:48:47 by FXST01

Spunky the Tuna wrote:
&gt; On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:34:23 -0500, Dana Taramina wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:23:10 -0600, &quot;Greg B.&quot;
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com" target="_blank">buchanan.greg.remove&#64;gmail.nospam.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Go on a ride with (hate to say it) HOG. They're likely to answer each
&gt;&gt;&gt; and all of these questions before the ride leaves.
&gt;&gt; Oh, puleeze. That's all she needs. A ride with 50 people who don't
&gt;&gt; know what they're doing or where they're going.
&gt;
&gt; Welll, you know, you could look at it as an opportunity to see damn near all
&gt; of the worst riding habits possible in a compressed amount of time. If she
&gt; can ride in the middle of that kind of a pack, survive it and not kill
&gt; anybody in frustration, she might gain as much as a year's riding with some
&gt; folks that actually know what they're doing.
&gt;
&gt; Or, as they say, not.


LOL, love your work Spunky

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