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#1: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-12 21:44:22 by tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS

Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.

<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html</a>

Case of Illinois Mother on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes
Sparks Debate

&lt;...&gt;

CHICAGO . Treffly Coyne was out of her car for just minutes and no
more than 10 yards away.

But that was long and far enough to land her in court after a police
officer spotted her sleeping 2-year-old daughter alone in the vehicle;
Coyne had taken her two older daughters to pour $8.29 in coins into a
Salvation Army kettle.

&lt;...&gt;

The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on
misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and obstructing a peace
officer. If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and
fined $2,500, even though child welfare workers found no credible
evidence of abuse or neglect.

&lt;...&gt;

Even as she buckled 2-year-old Phoebe into the car, the girl was asleep.
When Coyne arrived at the store, she found a spot to park in a loading
zone, right behind someone tying a Christmas tree onto a car.

&quot;It's sleeting out, it's not pleasant, I don't want to disturb her, wake
her up,&quot; Coyne said this week. &quot;It was safer to leave her in the safety
and warmth of an alarmed car than take her.&quot;

So Coyne switched on the emergency flashers, locked the car, activated
the alarm and walked the other children to the bell ringer.

She snapped a few pictures of the girls donating money and headed back
to the car. But a community service officer blocked her way.

&quot;She was on a tirade, she was yelling at me,&quot; Coyne said. The officer,
Coyne said, didn't want to hear about how close Coyne was, how she never
set foot inside the store and was just there to let the kids donate
money, or how she could always see her car.

&lt;...&gt;

Crestwood Police Chief Timothy Sulikowski declined to comment about the
case. But he did not dispute the contention that Coyne parked nearby or
was away from her car for just a few minutes.

&lt;...&gt;

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#2: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-12 23:42:19 by XR650L_Dave

On Mar 12, 4:44=A0pm, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com</a> (Brent P)
wrote:
&gt; Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt; decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; Case of Illinois Mother on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes
&gt; Sparks Debate
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;
&gt;
&gt; CHICAGO =A0. =A0Treffly Coyne was out of her car for just minutes and no
&gt; more than 10 yards away.
&gt;
&gt; But that was long and far enough to land her in court after a police
&gt; officer spotted her sleeping 2-year-old daughter alone in the vehicle;
&gt; Coyne had taken her two older daughters to pour $8.29 in coins into a
&gt; Salvation Army kettle.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on
&gt; misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and obstructing a peace
&gt; officer. If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and
&gt; fined $2,500, even though child welfare workers found no credible
&gt; evidence of abuse or neglect.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Even as she buckled 2-year-old Phoebe into the car, the girl was asleep.
&gt; When Coyne arrived at the store, she found a spot to park in a loading
&gt; zone, right behind someone tying a Christmas tree onto a car.
&gt;
&gt; &quot;It's sleeting out, it's not pleasant, I don't want to disturb her, wake
&gt; her up,&quot; Coyne said this week. &quot;It was safer to leave her in the safety
&gt; and warmth of an alarmed car than take her.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; So Coyne switched on the emergency flashers, locked the car, activated
&gt; the alarm and walked the other children to the bell ringer.
&gt;
&gt; She snapped a few pictures of the girls donating money and headed back
&gt; to the car. But a community service officer blocked her way.
&gt;
&gt; &quot;She was on a tirade, she was yelling at me,&quot; Coyne said. The officer,
&gt; Coyne said, didn't want to hear about how close Coyne was, how she never
&gt; set foot inside the store and was just there to let the kids donate
&gt; money, or how she could always see her car.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Crestwood Police Chief Timothy Sulikowski declined to comment about the
&gt; case. But he did not dispute the contention that Coyne parked nearby or
&gt; was away from her car for just a few minutes.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;

A 'community service officer' or a cop?

If not a cop, they'd be one hurtin' MFer if they got between me and
one of my kids.

D

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#3: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 00:18:57 by necromancer

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:44:22 -0500, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com</a>
(Brent P) wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt;decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html</a>
&gt;
&gt;Case of Illinois Mother on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes
&gt;Sparks Debate

&lt;&lt; snip article &gt;&gt;

Just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished.

--
&quot;You can fool some of the people all the time,
and those are the ones you want to
concentrate on.&quot;
--Governor George W. Bush

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#4: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 02:34:53 by unknown

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#5: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 02:43:24 by tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:201ht3hj1iapbo3nl9e0oosipcs5tfs1vq&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">201ht3hj1iapbo3nl9e0oosipcs5tfs1vq&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Scott in SoCal wrote:
&gt;On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:44:22 -0500, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com</a>
&gt;(Brent P) wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt;&gt;decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt;This happened in Chicago, where it's OK to park illegally as long as
&gt;you tuen your hazard flashers on. :)

Actually crestwood I think the article said... in front of a walmart....
if that matters any ;)

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#6: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 02:44:59 by morticide

On Mar 12, 3:44=A0pm, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com</a> (Brent P)
wrote:
&gt; Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt; decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337012,00.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; Case of Illinois Mother on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes
&gt; Sparks Debate
&gt;
&gt; &lt;...&gt;
&gt;
&gt; CHICAGO =A0. =A0(snip rest of article)

Of course: C(r)ook County: did you expect any less? A simple parking
violation just doesn't pad the gov't coffers like child endangerment.
I'm surprised they didn't tack on a resisting-arrest charge for the
minute or so in discussion with the officer, in addition to the
obstruction charge.

Goes to show that in gov't eyes if you can donate change to a charity
you can pay extra taxes and fines. They don't want competition for
our money. They print it so they can grab it.

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#7: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 02:48:34 by Garth Almgren

Around 3/12/2008 6:34 PM, Scott in SoCal wrote:

&gt; On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:44:22 -0500, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS&#64;yahoo.com</a>
&gt; (Brent P) wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt;&gt; decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt; This happened in Chicago, where it's OK to park illegally as long as
&gt; you tuen your hazard flashers on. :)


Wasn't it in your new favorite TV show &quot;Parking Wars&quot; where one of the
PPA ticket writers said hazard flashers might as well be called ticket
flashers because with every blink they called out to him &quot;Ticket me!
Ticket me! Ticket me!&quot;? :)


--
~/Garth |&quot;I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.&quot;
--H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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#8: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 02:52:22 by morticide

On Mar 12, 8:48=A0pm, Garth Almgren &lt;<a href="mailto:nos...&#64;v6stang.com" target="_blank">nos...&#64;v6stang.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Around 3/12/2008 6:34 PM, Scott in SoCal wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:44:22 -0500, <a href="mailto:tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">tetraethylleadREMOVET...&#64;yahoo.com</a>
&gt; &gt; (Brent P) wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Government's police decide to enforce laws controling parental
&gt; &gt;&gt; decision making instead of issuing an appropiate parking ticket.
&gt;
&gt; &gt; This happened in Chicago, where it's OK to park illegally as long as
&gt; &gt; you tuen your hazard flashers on. :)
&gt;
&gt; Wasn't it in your new favorite TV show &quot;Parking Wars&quot; where one of the
&gt; PPA ticket writers said hazard flashers might as well be called ticket
&gt; flashers because with every blink they called out to him &quot;Ticket me!
&gt; Ticket me! Ticket me!&quot;? =A0:)
&gt;
&gt; --
Isn't that about right! If the hazards were really due to mechanical
problems it would be tow time anyway after a certain amount of time in
that spot.

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#9: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 04:33:11 by unknown

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#10: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 05:08:31 by russotto

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:63rffcF291omsU1&#64;mid.individual.net" target="_blank">63rffcF291omsU1&#64;mid.individual.net</a>&gt;,
Garth Almgren &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;v6stang.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;v6stang.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;Wasn't it in your new favorite TV show &quot;Parking Wars&quot; where one of the
&gt;PPA ticket writers said hazard flashers might as well be called ticket
&gt;flashers because with every blink they called out to him &quot;Ticket me!
&gt;Ticket me! Ticket me!&quot;? :)

That's why when I park illegally, I always break into nearby (legally
parked) cars and turn on their hazard flashers. Decoys, you see.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

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#11: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 05:18:40 by Garth Almgren

Around 3/12/2008 9:08 PM, Matthew T. Russotto wrote:

&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:63rffcF291omsU1&#64;mid.individual.net" target="_blank">63rffcF291omsU1&#64;mid.individual.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; Garth Almgren &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;v6stang.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;v6stang.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Wasn't it in your new favorite TV show &quot;Parking Wars&quot; where one of the
&gt;&gt; PPA ticket writers said hazard flashers might as well be called ticket
&gt;&gt; flashers because with every blink they called out to him &quot;Ticket me!
&gt;&gt; Ticket me! Ticket me!&quot;? :)
&gt;
&gt; That's why when I park illegally, I always break into nearby (legally
&gt; parked) cars and turn on their hazard flashers. Decoys, you see.

Heh. I prefer the &quot;winch them into a red zone&quot; method myself... Less
property damage. :)

--
~/Garth |&quot;I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.&quot;
--H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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#12: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-13 14:40:52 by unknown

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#13: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-14 01:52:15 by russotto

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:63ro8oF278f2fU1&#64;mid.individual.net" target="_blank">63ro8oF278f2fU1&#64;mid.individual.net</a>&gt;,
Garth Almgren &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;v6stang.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;v6stang.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;Around 3/12/2008 9:08 PM, Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That's why when I park illegally, I always break into nearby (legally
&gt;&gt; parked) cars and turn on their hazard flashers. Decoys, you see.
&gt;
&gt;Heh. I prefer the &quot;winch them into a red zone&quot; method myself... Less
&gt;property damage. :)

With the Subaru, I can just bump the end car (or two, the Subaru is
pretty long) into a no-parking zone and take the legal spot myself. But with
the Miata, there's not going to be any winching or bumping going on,
so I have to get creative.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

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#14: Re: but what about the IBJAM MFFY parking?

Posted on 2008-03-14 03:24:16 by unknown

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