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#1: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:01:12 by Clap Trap

Barkeep, open the tap and let 'er flow....

So I've mentioned before that my Dyna is great except for getting popped
in the head from the wind whipping around the windshield. I've tried
everything to adjust it, but nothing works.

I've discovered though, that if I put my left hand between the handlebar
and the tank, that's all it takes to completely stop the buffeting. So,
while searching for some kind of extra wide tank bag or something that
might fill in that gap, I came across some chrome lowers for a softail
that claim to help reduce buffetting. Unfortunately, the only ones I've
been able to find for a Dyna Super Glide Sport, require a matching
windshield.

Two questions:
1) Does anyone here have experience with these lowers and do they
actualy work to stop buffeting?

2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
hold them on?

-Clappy

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#2: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:30:42 by Greasy Rider

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:01:12 -0500, Clap Trap &lt;<a href="mailto:nowhere&#64;the.net" target="_blank">nowhere&#64;the.net</a>&gt;
postulated :

&gt;2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt;have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt;hold them on?

I've taken my motorcycle and a sketch pad to a custom metal fabricator
and had them do some real neat work. Card board mock ups help also.
There are now some interesting metal textures available plus you can
always have the item chrome plated or powder coated. The last item
made for me was out of mirror stainless steel which looks just like
chrome.




Ride Safe!
Greasy Rider® SLOB-6
'97 FLHTCI Lehman trike
53 years of motorcyling
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#3: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:43:56 by amstaffs

Clap Trap &lt;<a href="mailto:nowhere&#64;the.net" target="_blank">nowhere&#64;the.net</a>&gt; quipped:

&gt;Barkeep, open the tap and let 'er flow....
&gt;
&gt;So I've mentioned before that my Dyna is great except for getting popped
&gt;in the head from the wind whipping around the windshield. I've tried
&gt;everything to adjust it, but nothing works.
&gt;
&gt;I've discovered though, that if I put my left hand between the handlebar
&gt;and the tank, that's all it takes to completely stop the buffeting. So,
&gt;while searching for some kind of extra wide tank bag or something that
&gt;might fill in that gap, I came across some chrome lowers for a softail
&gt;that claim to help reduce buffetting. Unfortunately, the only ones I've
&gt;been able to find for a Dyna Super Glide Sport, require a matching
&gt;windshield.
&gt;
&gt;Two questions:
&gt;1) Does anyone here have experience with these lowers and do they
&gt;actualy work to stop buffeting?
&gt;
&gt;2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt;have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt;hold them on?
&gt;
&gt;-Clappy

don't bother...don't work.

But this does:

www.jacksflaps.com

It does the same thing that putting your across your chest for you
only automagically. I mean it..it *really* really* works.

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#4: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 01:01:27 by bresser

&quot;Clap Trap&quot; wrote...
&gt;
&gt; 2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt; have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt; hold them on?

<a href="http://tinyurl.com/lsyy2" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/lsyy2</a>

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#5: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 01:36:16 by Dennis Peterson

Clap Trap wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Two questions:
&gt; 1) Does anyone here have experience with these lowers and do they
&gt; actualy work to stop buffeting?
&gt;
&gt; 2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt; have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt; hold them on?

I bought a leather tool bag that goes on the windshield cross brace
(Road King). This is an aside, but I bought that in Pueblo Springs, CO,
and before I got to the Kansas state line the latch was already broken.

To make it a longer story, I made a leather strap for it to keep it
closed. You should grab a beer now.

So then I bought a tach and there wasn't room any more for the broken
but now repaired tool kit, so I put it on the front of the windshield.
And guess what - the head-banging wind buffeting problem went away. The
bag breaks up the wind flow enough that I no longer get bobble-headed no
matter what speed.

dp

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#6: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 03:35:41 by bobcowan

Clap Trap wrote:

&gt; Two questions:
&gt; 1) Does anyone here have experience with these lowers and do they
&gt; actualy work to stop buffeting?

Sorry, no personal experience. But have been thinking about the same thing.
&gt;
&gt; 2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt; have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt; hold them on?

I've seen two different designs. One is made b y Rifle. They clamp on to the
fork legs. They seem to be made to fit the rifle windshields specifically - no
surprise there. But they are the same material as the windshield. So I don't see
why you couldn't cut to fit.
The other one I saw was made by (I think) KA. They clamped on to the frame down
tubes.


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#7: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 17:18:33 by Bill C

Clap Trap wrote:
&gt; Barkeep, open the tap and let 'er flow....
&gt;
&gt; So I've mentioned before that my Dyna is great except for getting popped
&gt; in the head from the wind whipping around the windshield. I've tried
&gt; everything to adjust it, but nothing works.
&gt;
&gt; I've discovered though, that if I put my left hand between the handlebar
&gt; and the tank, that's all it takes to completely stop the buffeting. So,
&gt; while searching for some kind of extra wide tank bag or something that
&gt; might fill in that gap, I came across some chrome lowers for a softail
&gt; that claim to help reduce buffetting. Unfortunately, the only ones I've
&gt; been able to find for a Dyna Super Glide Sport, require a matching
&gt; windshield.
&gt;
&gt; Two questions:
&gt; 1) Does anyone here have experience with these lowers and do they
&gt; actualy work to stop buffeting?
&gt;
&gt; 2) Does anybody know of some that would fit the Dyna without having to
&gt; have a matching windshield - ie, just some standalone fork brackets to
&gt; hold them on?
&gt;

Don't know about lowers, but it might help answer your question if you
said which model dyna, and which windscreen you are running. On my '01
FXDXT, the stock windscreen slapped me around pretty good. My answer
was to go to a shorter one which cleaned up the air flow around my
noggin.

Another alternative is the Jack's Flaps Aerovest. Over on the Dyna list
there are a number of testimonials about them.

<a href="http://jacksflaps.com/" target="_blank">http://jacksflaps.com/</a>

I don't own one, and IMO it's kinda fugly, but the folks over there
really seem to like it. The &quot;Jack&quot; that sells them posts there if you
want to ask questions. All the usual disclaimers apply - not
affiliated, yada yada...

--
Bill C.

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#8: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:04:35 by amstaffs

&quot;spacecriter (Bill C)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wcontratto&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">wcontratto&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; quipped:


&gt;Don't know about lowers, but it might help answer your question if you
&gt;said which model dyna, and which windscreen you are running. On my '01
&gt;FXDXT, the stock windscreen slapped me around pretty good. My answer
&gt;was to go to a shorter one which cleaned up the air flow around my
&gt;noggin.
&gt;
&gt;Another alternative is the Jack's Flaps Aerovest. Over on the Dyna list
&gt;there are a number of testimonials about them.
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://jacksflaps.com/" target="_blank">http://jacksflaps.com/</a>
&gt;
&gt;I don't own one, and IMO it's kinda fugly, but the folks over there
&gt;really seem to like it. The &quot;Jack&quot; that sells them posts there if you
&gt;want to ask questions. All the usual disclaimers apply - not
&gt;affiliated, yada yada...


the vest actually looks pretty normal. I have one and it's never
raised a question until I pointed out the &quot;flaps&quot; that deflect the
wind.

Three things affect buffeting, (1) the height of the windshield, (2)
the distance the rider *to* the windshield, and (3) the amount
of updraft coming up from underneath the gas tank. The vest
deflects the wind that's coming from that area. It can't do anything
about the wind coming from over the windshield or if the buffeting
is due to turbulence caused from being too far back from the
windshield though.

Having said that, a majority of the buffeting (e.g. head shaking,
helmet lifting, eye watering), is caused by that nasty updraft and
the vest vastly reduces that turbulence by, IMHO, as much as 90%.

Hey, he's got a money back guarantee, try it out and if it
doesn't work for you, return it. I haven't personally heard of anyone
who's returned one yet.

-aki
Dyna and TC88 list co-moderator

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#9: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:29:22 by Bill C

<a href="mailto:amstaffs&#64;home.com" target="_blank">amstaffs&#64;home.com</a> wrote:
&gt; &quot;spacecriter (Bill C)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wcontratto&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">wcontratto&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; quipped:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Another alternative is the Jack's Flaps Aerovest. Over on the Dyna list
&gt; &gt;there are a number of testimonials about them.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<a href="http://jacksflaps.com/" target="_blank">http://jacksflaps.com/</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;I don't own one, and IMO it's kinda fugly, but the folks over there
&gt; &gt;really seem to like it. The &quot;Jack&quot; that sells them posts there if you
&gt; &gt;want to ask questions. All the usual disclaimers apply - not
&gt; &gt;affiliated, yada yada...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; the vest actually looks pretty normal. I have one and it's never
&gt; raised a question until I pointed out the &quot;flaps&quot; that deflect the
&gt; wind.
&gt;

Only place I've &quot;seen&quot; the vest is on the web-site. You are correct,
with the flaps down (i.e. walking around) it does look pretty normal.
My fugly comment was directed to the pics on the website where they
show the flaps extended. To me, that looks pretty funky.

&lt;snip some&gt;

&gt;
&gt; Having said that, a majority of the buffeting (e.g. head shaking,
&gt; helmet lifting, eye watering), is caused by that nasty updraft and
&gt; the vest vastly reduces that turbulence by, IMHO, as much as 90%.
&gt;

Yep, that's what I read from *several * folks on the Dyna list. Lots of
happy owners over there.

&gt; Hey, he's got a money back guarantee, try it out and if it
&gt; doesn't work for you, return it. I haven't personally heard of anyone
&gt; who's returned one yet.

I don't need it cuz I solved my buffeting problem with a lower
windshield.

That's good info for the OP, to which I'd add, the cost isn't too bad
either.

&gt; -aki
&gt; Dyna and TC88 list co-moderator

Cool beans. Keep up the good work.

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#10: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:40:08 by amstaffs

&quot;spacecriter (Bill C)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wcontratto&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">wcontratto&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; quipped:

&gt;
&gt;<a href="mailto:amstaffs&#64;home.com" target="_blank">amstaffs&#64;home.com</a> wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;spacecriter (Bill C)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wcontratto&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">wcontratto&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; quipped:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;Another alternative is the Jack's Flaps Aerovest. Over on the Dyna list
&gt;&gt; &gt;there are a number of testimonials about them.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;<a href="http://jacksflaps.com/" target="_blank">http://jacksflaps.com/</a>
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;I don't own one, and IMO it's kinda fugly, but the folks over there
&gt;&gt; &gt;really seem to like it. The &quot;Jack&quot; that sells them posts there if you
&gt;&gt; &gt;want to ask questions. All the usual disclaimers apply - not
&gt;&gt; &gt;affiliated, yada yada...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; the vest actually looks pretty normal. I have one and it's never
&gt;&gt; raised a question until I pointed out the &quot;flaps&quot; that deflect the
&gt;&gt; wind.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Only place I've &quot;seen&quot; the vest is on the web-site. You are correct,
&gt;with the flaps down (i.e. walking around) it does look pretty normal.
&gt;My fugly comment was directed to the pics on the website where they
&gt;show the flaps extended. To me, that looks pretty funky.

yeah, it looks weird deployed but your arms cover any sideways view of
them.

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#11: Re: Dyna wind buffeting

Posted on 2006-07-23 22:37:23 by Clap Trap

spacecriter (Bill C) wrote:

&gt; Don't know about lowers, but it might help answer your question if you
&gt; said which model dyna, and which windscreen you are running. On my '01
&gt; FXDXT, the stock windscreen slapped me around pretty good. My answer
&gt; was to go to a shorter one which cleaned up the air flow around my
&gt; noggin.

Sorry, FXDXI (Super Glide Sport). The shield is the HD branded, quick
detachable super shield PN 57960-97. I've already chopped it off about
3 inches and I've monkeyed around with the lower mounts to get it raked
back to match the rake of the forks instead of standing straight up. It
looks much better now. But no matter how I rake it or raise or lower
it, the buffeting stays.

&gt;
&gt; Another alternative is the Jack's Flaps Aerovest. Over on the Dyna list
&gt; there are a number of testimonials about them.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://jacksflaps.com/" target="_blank">http://jacksflaps.com/</a>

Yeah, saw those. If I wore a vest, I'd be willing to try it, but I wear
a padded textile mesh jacket that I'm not willing to give up. Besides,
the wind that's hitting me is coming from behind, not up underneath.
Putting a hand in the flap location makes no difference so I doubt
they'd work for me.

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