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#1: 2007 Bike Demo Rides

Posted on 2006-07-22 06:50:47 by Steve Liggett

Our local dealer (Rochester, MN) has been advertising demo rides
of the 2007 models today and tomorrow (July 21-22), so I was there
as the doors opened. As I was signing up, I was told that our
dealer had been selected to have the first 2007 demo rides anywhere
in the country. Are we special or what?

Being first in line, I was able to start with my first choice,
which was the Road Glide. For whatever perverted reason, HD did
not choose to include a Road Glide in their demo fleet; however
the dealer was kind enough to add one from their first shipment
of 2007s, which had arrived a day or two earlier (thank you,
Judy!). Good idea, since I think that in the 5 1/2 hours
that I was there, the RG was taken out by someone in every
single ride they did.

Of course we had to play follow the leader. They had picked out
a 15-mile loop to ride. Unfortunately, there aren't any real
fun, twisty roads that close to the dealer, nor are there
any roads with a speed limit higher than 55, so those two
factors limited the ability to have fun with the bikes or
really see how they handled and performed at higher speeds.

There were a few things about the Road Glide that I didn't
like, but they are either easily fixed or just that particular
bike. The biggest problem was that I had to really stretch
to reach the handlebars, making it awkward and uncomfortable.
I pulled the handlebars back a few inches on my RG, so I know
that is easily fixed. I didn't care for the stock seat (I
have a Mustang on mine). And I definitely didn't like the
higher windshield (I think they started using a taller one
in '04.) Also, it seemed like there was something funky in
the clutch engagement, but I didn't notice that on any of
the other bikes, so it is probably a minor adjustment or
something.

Now for the good stuff. The additional torque of the bigger
engine is very noticeable (compared to my totally stock
'00 bike anyway). I think the first 5 gears have slightly
different ratios that the older bikes. I didn't ride it
long enough to have a good feel for what gear I should be
in, but it seemed like I was getting into each gear at a
higher speed than I am used to. I didn't get much of a
chance to use 6th gear. We seldom went faster than 60,
which is too slow for 6th, with an engine speed of 2100
RPM. There is a new light in the instrument cluster
to tell you that you are in 6th gear, a little numeral 6
(doh!) that lights up. According to some literature I
read, this is not turned on by a switch in the tranny,
but is done by comparing engine speed to road speed.
Not sure why they felt it was necessary to have that,
but I suppose they have their reasons. The transmission
seemed to shift very smoothly and easily. I also liked
the lighter clutch (which came out last year). Overall
I was very favorably impressed, and it is really
tempting to upgrade. Now if they would only put
a decent ABS on the bikes.

Next bike to ride was a Street Rod, a blacked out V-Rod.
It is a really mean-looking bike, and I liked the looks
of it. Didn't like the forward controls, and again
the handlebars were too far forward. Also, I am used
to a windshield, so I got a lot more wind than I am
used to, so I wasn't real comfy on the bike. I did
like the power, and I kept it revved up - never got
out of 3rd gear. I was able to fall back a few times,
then open it up for a (very short) while to catch up
to the bike ahead of me. I don't know what (if
anything) is new for '07 in the V-Rod line. All in
all, nice bike but not for me.

Then I took out a Softtail Deluxe, mainly because
several people told me "you just have to ride that one".
I guess it was OK, but I'm just not a huge softtail
fan. The balanced engine was smooth as glass, and
it seemed to handle pretty well (hard to tell much
on the route we were on). I found out rather quickly
that having the speedo and indicator lights down on
the gas tank is not too great with a full-face
helmet. I really had to work to be able to see
the turn signal indicators. Again, OK but far from
my first choice.

I had to try a couple of bat wing bikes, mainly
because I had never ridden one before. I took out
a Street Glide and an Ultra barge. As for the '07
changes, see my comments on the Road Glide. Both
of these bikes had a more comfortable riding
position than the RG they way they were set up.
The Street Glide felt like a much smaller bike
than it really is (probably at least partly because
of the shorty windshield). The Ultra is, well an
Ultra. Both were nice bikes, and I could live
with either one of them, but I still like the
Road Glide better.

Well, finally it was time to jump on my trusty
'00 Road Glide and leave. It was like slipping
on an old, well worn but comfortable pair of
shoes. The '07s are nice bikes with some changes
that I like, but hell, mine is a nice bike too,
and it still rides and handles pretty well --
especially since I got the engine mount taken
care of (see my thread "Mystery rattle update").
So, should I get a new one? Tempting, but I'm
still undecided.

--
Steve Liggett BS#117 SENS DOF#35
'46 Indian Chief
'66 CL160
'99 XL1200S
'00 FLTRI

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#2: Re: 2007 Bike Demo Rides

Posted on 2006-07-22 16:36:27 by Harold Gailey

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:50:47 -0500, Steve Liggett
&lt;<a href="mailto:liggett&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">liggett&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:


&gt;The Street Glide felt like a much smaller bike
&gt;than it really is (probably at least partly because
&gt;of the shorty windshield).

I was told that model is also lowered.
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78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
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#3: Re: 2007 Bike Demo Rides

Posted on 2006-07-22 18:28:26 by JoeSmoe

&quot;Steve Liggett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:liggett&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">liggett&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:44c1aeac&#64;kcnews01..." target="_blank">44c1aeac&#64;kcnews01...</a>
&gt; Our local dealer (Rochester, MN) has been advertising demo rides
&gt; of the 2007 models today and tomorrow (July 21-22), so I was there
&gt; as the doors opened. As I was signing up, I was told that our
&gt; dealer had been selected to have the first 2007 demo rides anywhere
&gt; in the country. Are we special or what?
&gt;
&lt;snip&gt;


Jacox HD in Mississauga Ontario also had 2007 demo ride today....but it
started to rain mid morning, they had to suspend the activities.

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#4: Re: 2007 Bike Demo Rides

Posted on 2006-07-22 19:06:07 by Tinman

Steve Liggett wrote:
&gt; chance to use 6th gear. We seldom went faster than 60,
&gt; which is too slow for 6th, with an engine speed of 2100

That 6th gear is nice. It doesn't turn that many less RPM than the prior
5th, but it's definitely noticeable and I like it. With the 96&quot; motor, I
didn't feel as much lugging in 6th as I did on my TC-88 in 5th. YMMV.


&gt; RPM. There is a new light in the instrument cluster
&gt; to tell you that you are in 6th gear, a little numeral 6
&gt; (doh!) that lights up. According to some literature I
&gt; read, this is not turned on by a switch in the tranny,
&gt; but is done by comparing engine speed to road speed.

Yep, and this is evidenced by the fact that it takes a second or so to
light up.

&gt; Not sure why they felt it was necessary to have that,
&gt; but I suppose they have their reasons.

I don't know what their reasons were, but I like it. Can't tell ya' the
number of times I've reached for a higher gear when I was already in
5th. Or found I wasn't in 5th when I thought I wuz. Maybe it's just me;
spoiled by my beemer's display of *every* gear.

The parts manager where I bought my bike thought it was to let you know
just how damn far you'll (eventually) need to downshift.


&gt; The transmission
&gt; seemed to shift very smoothly and easily. I also liked
&gt; the lighter clutch (which came out last year).

I was told this year they lightened it even more. Thought the darn thing
was disconnected when I first tried it.

Oh yea, no more being able to engage the starter with the bike in gear:
you know have to be in neutral, or have the clutch pulled in. Don't care
much about that as I *never* have tried to start my bike in gear. Never.


&gt; Overall
&gt; I was very favorably impressed, and it is really
&gt; tempting to upgrade. Now if they would only put
&gt; a decent ABS on the bikes.

Was hoping this would the year, but no go. Methinks they're trying to
work ABS into their existing brake system and that just ain't cuttin'
it. Would like to hear someone with a cop bike and ABS, to hear what
they think about it.


--
Mike | A 'jiffy' is an actual unit of time for
'07 FLHTCU | 1/100th of a second.

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