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#1: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-22 08:15:17 by CrashTestDummy

Some might recall that we recently aquired a 1984 Honda Z50 in
rough shape. Well yesterday I brought it home from storage and put it
in my shed so we could take a closer look at it. So after work today
me and the 5-year old, Anthony, drag the bike out of the shed and look
it over real good. This boy LOVES to take things apart, so he was
stoked to start wrenching.

The first problem was the missing seat. The bike didn't come with a
seat or even a seat pan. I figured if worse came to worse we had an
old KX80 seat that could probably be cut down and modified to fit. The
air cleaner was also absent, but I figured something could be worked
out there too, so I wasn't really worried yet.

Then I thought we'd better kick the Honda over to see if it was
froze up. Well, the engine kicked over nice and easy like. But there
was an odd little clicking sound, like maybe a bad ring.

The boy was getting antsy, so I decided to let him remove the bolt
holding the tank on. He loved that. But when we got the (metal) tank
off you could hear all kinds of stuff inside sliding back and forth.
:-(

And once the tank was out of the way I was able to see that the
coil was missing. And so was the spark plug for that matter. Which
explains why the motor kicked over so easily. At this point I'm
getting a little discouraged, but the boy is having a great time with
his new buddy the socket wrench.

The rear (8") tire is flat, there's that crappy black paint over
all the original red paint and plastic, one inner fork leg appears to
be bent, and when the boy removed the exhaust pipe we noticed that
there's a small chunk missing out of the cylinder at the exhaust
flange. It's external, but it may effect the head pipe's ability to
seal properly.

At this point I convince the kid to come inside and take a break. I
take a look on the internet and discover that a new coil runs $49.99.
There's one on eBay at $9.99, but it's for older models. So then I
start perusing all Z50 items on eBay...

....and soon concluded that these bike have indeed reached "cult"
status. There seems to be a solid demand for anything Z50. A used rear
fender for our model was at $31.99, a nice tank was $78.00, a
crappily-recovered seat was 38 bucks... and then we'd have to find a
coil to see if the thing would even produce spark. And just what kind
of (internal) shape is the engine in?

By now the boy was bugging me to go wrench some more.

So the missus and I tactfully suggested to him that we part out the
Z50 and put anything we make off of it into a savings account for a
future "running" bike for him. He was kewl with that as long as it
meant we could go back out and take some more crap apart.

So now I have a completely disassembled Honda Z50 in the shed. I'll
probably take some of the parts over to my brother's and run them
through the sandblaster to clean 'em up before putting them on eBay.
I'm glad Spodefest is coming up soon... I gotta get the RM out of here
before the boy decides to "part out" that too! ;->


CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
<a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>

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#2: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-22 08:38:49 by Wudsracer

Very cool Fred!

Jim


&gt;On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 06:15:17 GMT, CrashTestDummy &lt;<a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Some might recall that we recently aquired a 1984 Honda Z50 in
&gt;rough shape. Well yesterday I brought it home from storage and put it
&gt;in my shed so we could take a closer look at it. So after work today
&gt;me and the 5-year old, Anthony, drag the bike out of the shed and look
&gt;it over real good. This boy LOVES to take things apart, so he was
&gt;stoked to start wrenching.
&gt;
&gt; The first problem was the missing seat. The bike didn't come with a
&gt;seat or even a seat pan. I figured if worse came to worse we had an
&gt;old KX80 seat that could probably be cut down and modified to fit. The
&gt;air cleaner was also absent, but I figured something could be worked
&gt;out there too, so I wasn't really worried yet.
&gt;
&gt; Then I thought we'd better kick the Honda over to see if it was
&gt;froze up. Well, the engine kicked over nice and easy like. But there
&gt;was an odd little clicking sound, like maybe a bad ring.
&gt;
&gt; The boy was getting antsy, so I decided to let him remove the bolt
&gt;holding the tank on. He loved that. But when we got the (metal) tank
&gt;off you could hear all kinds of stuff inside sliding back and forth.
&gt;:-(
&gt;
&gt; And once the tank was out of the way I was able to see that the
&gt;coil was missing. And so was the spark plug for that matter. Which
&gt;explains why the motor kicked over so easily. At this point I'm
&gt;getting a little discouraged, but the boy is having a great time with
&gt;his new buddy the socket wrench.
&gt;
&gt; The rear (8&quot;) tire is flat, there's that crappy black paint over
&gt;all the original red paint and plastic, one inner fork leg appears to
&gt;be bent, and when the boy removed the exhaust pipe we noticed that
&gt;there's a small chunk missing out of the cylinder at the exhaust
&gt;flange. It's external, but it may effect the head pipe's ability to
&gt;seal properly.
&gt;
&gt; At this point I convince the kid to come inside and take a break. I
&gt;take a look on the internet and discover that a new coil runs $49.99.
&gt;There's one on eBay at $9.99, but it's for older models. So then I
&gt;start perusing all Z50 items on eBay...
&gt;
&gt;...and soon concluded that these bike have indeed reached &quot;cult&quot;
&gt;status. There seems to be a solid demand for anything Z50. A used rear
&gt;fender for our model was at $31.99, a nice tank was $78.00, a
&gt;crappily-recovered seat was 38 bucks... and then we'd have to find a
&gt;coil to see if the thing would even produce spark. And just what kind
&gt;of (internal) shape is the engine in?
&gt;
&gt; By now the boy was bugging me to go wrench some more.
&gt;
&gt; So the missus and I tactfully suggested to him that we part out the
&gt;Z50 and put anything we make off of it into a savings account for a
&gt;future &quot;running&quot; bike for him. He was kewl with that as long as it
&gt;meant we could go back out and take some more crap apart.
&gt;
&gt; So now I have a completely disassembled Honda Z50 in the shed. I'll
&gt;probably take some of the parts over to my brother's and run them
&gt;through the sandblaster to clean 'em up before putting them on eBay.
&gt;I'm glad Spodefest is coming up soon... I gotta get the RM out of here
&gt;before the boy decides to &quot;part out&quot; that too! ;-&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
&gt;<a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>

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#3: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-22 14:33:50 by Joemomma

CrashTestDummy wrote:
&gt; Some might recall that we recently aquired a 1984 Honda Z50 in
&gt; rough shape. Well yesterday I brought it home from storage and put it
&gt; in my shed so we could take a closer look at it. So after work today
&gt; me and the 5-year old, Anthony, drag the bike out of the shed and look
&gt; it over real good. This boy LOVES to take things apart, so he was
&gt; stoked to start wrenching.
&gt;
&gt; The first problem was the missing seat. The bike didn't come with a
&gt; seat or even a seat pan. I figured if worse came to worse we had an
&gt; old KX80 seat that could probably be cut down and modified to fit. The
&gt; air cleaner was also absent, but I figured something could be worked
&gt; out there too, so I wasn't really worried yet.
&gt;
&gt; Then I thought we'd better kick the Honda over to see if it was
&gt; froze up. Well, the engine kicked over nice and easy like. But there
&gt; was an odd little clicking sound, like maybe a bad ring.
&gt;
&gt; The boy was getting antsy, so I decided to let him remove the bolt
&gt; holding the tank on. He loved that. But when we got the (metal) tank
&gt; off you could hear all kinds of stuff inside sliding back and forth.
&gt; :-(
&gt;
&gt; And once the tank was out of the way I was able to see that the
&gt; coil was missing. And so was the spark plug for that matter. Which
&gt; explains why the motor kicked over so easily. At this point I'm
&gt; getting a little discouraged, but the boy is having a great time with
&gt; his new buddy the socket wrench.
&gt;
&gt; The rear (8&quot;) tire is flat, there's that crappy black paint over
&gt; all the original red paint and plastic, one inner fork leg appears to
&gt; be bent, and when the boy removed the exhaust pipe we noticed that
&gt; there's a small chunk missing out of the cylinder at the exhaust
&gt; flange. It's external, but it may effect the head pipe's ability to
&gt; seal properly.
&gt;
&gt; At this point I convince the kid to come inside and take a break. I
&gt; take a look on the internet and discover that a new coil runs $49.99.
&gt; There's one on eBay at $9.99, but it's for older models. So then I
&gt; start perusing all Z50 items on eBay...
&gt;
&gt; ...and soon concluded that these bike have indeed reached &quot;cult&quot;
&gt; status. There seems to be a solid demand for anything Z50. A used rear
&gt; fender for our model was at $31.99, a nice tank was $78.00, a
&gt; crappily-recovered seat was 38 bucks... and then we'd have to find a
&gt; coil to see if the thing would even produce spark. And just what kind
&gt; of (internal) shape is the engine in?
&gt;
&gt; By now the boy was bugging me to go wrench some more.
&gt;
&gt; So the missus and I tactfully suggested to him that we part out the
&gt; Z50 and put anything we make off of it into a savings account for a
&gt; future &quot;running&quot; bike for him. He was kewl with that as long as it
&gt; meant we could go back out and take some more crap apart.
&gt;
&gt; So now I have a completely disassembled Honda Z50 in the shed. I'll
&gt; probably take some of the parts over to my brother's and run them
&gt; through the sandblaster to clean 'em up before putting them on eBay.
&gt; I'm glad Spodefest is coming up soon... I gotta get the RM out of here
&gt; before the boy decides to &quot;part out&quot; that too! ;-&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
&gt; <a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>


That might be a good idea! 5yrs old and wrenching! &quot;thats way cool&quot;!

Joe

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#4: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-23 00:11:03 by CrashTestDummy

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 06:38:49 GMT, Wudsracer
&lt;<a href="mailto:dirtbike52RemovE&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">dirtbike52RemovE&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Very cool Fred!
&gt;
&gt;Jim

Thanks Jim. See you soon!


CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
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#5: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-23 00:16:19 by CrashTestDummy

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:33:50 -0700, Joemomma &lt;<a href="mailto:cupcake&#64;molalla.net" target="_blank">cupcake&#64;molalla.net</a>&gt;
wrote:


&gt;That might be a good idea! 5yrs old and wrenching! &quot;thats way cool&quot;!
&gt;
&gt;Joe

Thanks Joe!
Compared to some of the 5-year olds I've seen *riding* already,
it's not that spectacular. Or wait... maybe it is. I'm sure a lot of
these kids could benefit from learning to wrench first (or in addition
to).

Anthonys (my son) favorite thing to do is take apart his Micro
Machines with a small phillips and then re-assemble them. Sometimes
mom or dad have to help out a little with re-assembly, but he's an
expert already at disassembly ;-&gt;


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#6: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-23 03:08:40 by DirtCrashr

CrashTestDummy &lt;<a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:33:50 -0700, Joemomma &lt;<a href="mailto:cupcake&#64;molalla.net" target="_blank">cupcake&#64;molalla.net</a>&gt;
&gt;wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;That might be a good idea! 5yrs old and wrenching! &quot;thats way cool&quot;!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Joe
&gt;
&gt; Thanks Joe!
&gt; Compared to some of the 5-year olds I've seen *riding* already,
&gt;it's not that spectacular. Or wait... maybe it is. I'm sure a lot of
&gt;these kids could benefit from learning to wrench first (or in addition
&gt;to).
&gt;
&gt; Anthonys (my son) favorite thing to do is take apart his Micro
&gt;Machines with a small phillips and then re-assemble them. Sometimes
&gt;mom or dad have to help out a little with re-assembly, but he's an
&gt;expert already at disassembly ;-&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
&gt;<a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>

Good stuff Fred, I'm sorry I'll miss you guys at Spodefest.

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#7: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-23 03:18:47 by Joemomma

CrashTestDummy wrote:
&gt; On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:33:50 -0700, Joemomma &lt;<a href="mailto:cupcake&#64;molalla.net" target="_blank">cupcake&#64;molalla.net</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;That might be a good idea! 5yrs old and wrenching! &quot;thats way cool&quot;!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Joe
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Thanks Joe!
&gt; Compared to some of the 5-year olds I've seen *riding* already,
&gt; it's not that spectacular. Or wait... maybe it is. I'm sure a lot of
&gt; these kids could benefit from learning to wrench first (or in addition
&gt; to).

Yes they would, my kids did and it is awesome! (16yrold is outside
right now, dropping the tranny in his free p/u), it will pay off shortly
when the bikes need an oil change, and you want to sit on your ass and
drink beer! And rib them, so thet can say father son thing, that make m
cry sometimes. &quot;Bite me dad&quot;!
&gt;
&gt; Anthonys (my son) favorite thing to do is take apart his Micro
&gt; Machines with a small phillips and then re-assemble them. Sometimes
&gt; mom or dad have to help out a little with re-assembly, but he's an
&gt; expert already at disassembly ;-&gt;

Don't forget to teach him, were's my parts and were did I put that tool!
That has been haunting me for 40+ yrs!

Joe
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; CrashTestDummy - '85 RM-250
&gt; <a href="mailto:f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net" target="_blank">f.j.bradfordREMOVE&#64;verizon.net</a>

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#8: Re: A Boy and a Honda Z50

Posted on 2006-07-23 16:15:50 by clover338

I was about 5 and already knew about Santa Claus when my neighbor (a
jolly railroad brakeman) came over to my house on Christmas Eve and
asked me to help me with something but I had to keep it a secret. He was
cool and it was nothing wierd. He wanted me to help him assemble a toy
for his son who was about a year younger than me and who didn't know
about Santa. The toy was a really cool Big Wheel sorta thing called the
X15. The steering was in the back wheels operated by a joystick. You can
still find them on Ebay.
Anyway the whole thing was metal with cool graphics printed on. We put
that thing together with all the tiny nuts and bolts and the wrenches
that toys used to always come with.
he got it the next morning and brought it next door to show me.
Of course I let spill that I had put it together for him the night
before. I got royally chewed out for that one.
I love tools.

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