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#1: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-17 20:29:58 by outofthe

Two questions:

If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
what I need the utility for.

Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
the tie downs. The shoe is about 18" from the front wall and the tie downs
are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike


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70 CT70
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#2: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:28:28 by dsc

Mike W. wrote:
> Two questions:
>
> If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
> what I need the utility for.
>
I do... and I did. But I have a use for both...

> Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
> way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
> mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
> the tie downs. The shoe is about 18" from the front wall and the tie downs
> are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
> front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
> appreciated.

Bolt them down using something like this...

<a href="http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG" target="_blank">http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG</a>

Make them yourself...

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#3: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:40:20 by John

Volker would have gone to home depot bought a dozen great stuff foam cans &amp;
some garbage bags tossed a couple cans in each bag then shoot them as he
tossed them into the trailer foaming the bike in place, then he'd stop by a
mini mart and grab a sixer &amp; some beef jerky so he could gas out his travel
companions.
trailers are nice to have if you have the room, if no room buy wife a
smaller car and park it there. ( i hear she wants 30's T bucket with a
blower) for the bike shoe? i'm not used to holding down big weight bikes but
i would venture to say some angle iron on the bottom side of the trailer
might be a good thing down there to give you a solid backing for
fasteners... i'm sure there are some trailer princess Harley types around
the hood that could share some loading options...
john

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&gt;
&gt; Two questions:
&gt;
&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not
&gt; sure
&gt; what I need the utility for.
&gt;
&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt; appreciated.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Mike
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Mike W.
&gt; 96 XR400
&gt; 70 CT70
&gt; 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
&gt; 99 KZ1000P

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#4: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:44:17 by outofthe

On 17 Jul 2006 13:28:28 -0700, &quot;dsc&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu" target="_blank">Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Mike W. wrote:
&gt;&gt; Two questions:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt;&gt; what I need the utility for.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;I do... and I did. But I have a use for both...

What do you do with the utility trailer that you won't use the enclosed
for, if I can ask?

&gt;
&gt;&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt;&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt;&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt;&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt;&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt;&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt;&gt; appreciated.
&gt;
&gt;Bolt them down using something like this...
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG" target="_blank">http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG</a>
&gt;
&gt;Make them yourself...

Dudley... I think those things you make ROCK. I put off mounting a chock
until the last minute and had to go with what was local. I was pleasantly
surprised to find the Pingel setup

<a href="http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm</a>

which does seem well made. I have found a bunch of glowing reports for
these but cant figure out why in my case, they back out and lift on one
side.

Mike


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96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#5: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-18 01:47:57 by DirtCrashr

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:44:17 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;&gt;Bolt them down using something like this...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;<a href="http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG" target="_blank">http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Make them yourself...
&gt;
&gt;Dudley... I think those things you make ROCK. I put off mounting a chock
&gt;until the last minute and had to go with what was local. I was pleasantly
&gt;surprised to find the Pingel setup
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt;which does seem well made. I have found a bunch of glowing reports for
&gt;these but cant figure out why in my case, they back out and lift on one
&gt;side.

You've got a King-Kong bike to hold, those are little chocks, what's
the modulus of elasticity for that thinwall stuff? Metal flexes.

They need bigger flanges.

&gt;Mike
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;--
&gt;Mike W.
&gt;96 XR400
&gt;70 CT70
&gt;71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
&gt;99 KZ1000P

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#6: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-18 03:21:10 by dsc

Mike W. wrote:
&gt; On 17 Jul 2006 13:28:28 -0700, &quot;dsc&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu" target="_blank">Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Mike W. wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; Two questions:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt; &gt;&gt; what I need the utility for.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;I do... and I did. But I have a use for both...
&gt;
&gt; What do you do with the utility trailer that you won't use the enclosed
&gt; for, if I can ask?

Haul things (like tear off shingles, trash, scrap steel) that are too
messy/dirty/etc or simply will not fit in the enclosed trailer... some
things fork lifted can be hard to get into an enclosed trailer too.

&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt; &gt;&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt; &gt;&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt; &gt;&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt; &gt;&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt; &gt;&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt; &gt;&gt; appreciated.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Bolt them down using something like this...
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<a href="http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG" target="_blank">http://people.eku.edu/cornmanadm/db/BlindFastener1.JPG</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Make them yourself...
&gt;
&gt; Dudley... I think those things you make ROCK. I put off mounting a chock
&gt; until the last minute and had to go with what was local. I was pleasantly
&gt; surprised to find the Pingel setup
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pingelonline.com/removable_wheel_chocks.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt; which does seem well made. I have found a bunch of glowing reports for
&gt; these but cant figure out why in my case, they back out and lift on one
&gt; side.

Aren't the straps supposed to hold the bike against the chock against
the pingles? Is there more than one size/type of pingle... maybe you
got a mismatch? Pingles are still a bit of a toe stubber. If you don't
really need the convient removeability... just bolt them down solid.

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#7: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-18 05:19:06 by Cebridge

I had both when I first purchased my enclosed trailer. I found that once I
had the enclosed trailer I never used the utility trailer. I got too
spoiled with having a safe haven from the heat, rain, etc. And, I just love
having all my tools, parts and accessories on board when I go out to ride.

As for holding the bikes I just purchased 2 of the MotoTek multipurpose
stands. I set the front wheels of the 250F and 450F in them and make sure
they rest flush against the back ramp door. Then I snug them down a bit
with tie downs to keep them from moving around. It's worked great so far.
And, when I get to the track, I simply remove the tie downs, roll the bikes
out of the stands and have no clutter or stumbling obstacles left in the
trailer.

Homer

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&gt;
&gt; Two questions:
&gt;
&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not
&gt; sure
&gt; what I need the utility for.
&gt;
&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt; appreciated.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Mike
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Mike W.
&gt; 96 XR400
&gt; 70 CT70
&gt; 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
&gt; 99 KZ1000P



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#8: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 15:56:48 by tal.isbell

&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt; what I need the utility for.

I had both for a time. Wound up using the utility trailer more. Wanted
an enclosed trailer so bad I could not see straight. Bought one and
used it three times. Traded it for a Kendon fold up bike trailer. I was
usually carrying two bikes though and loading them by myself which was
harder in the enclosed trailer. My long winded point - if you have a
utility trialer you like hold onto it until you are sure your needs are
fully met by the enclosed trailer.

&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the

I have used the Pingle wheel chocks. Mine rusted much quicker than I
would have suspected. Keep them WD40'd if you want to keep the shine.
Of course, if I had used them in the enclosed trailer not the utility
trailer, this would not have been a problem.

Tal

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#9: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:23:56 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:47:57 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;You've got a King-Kong bike to hold, those are little chocks, what's
&gt;the modulus of elasticity for that thinwall stuff? Metal flexes.
&gt;
&gt;They need bigger flanges.

Flexing is better than failing. I'm a little concerned about the forces in
a rapid decel myself. The aft tie down wont do that much to hold the bike
back since there's not enough forward triangling going on. I'm going to add
some &quot;spring lines&quot; from the aft tie down point to the front crash bars to
keep some of the burden off the chock.

Mike


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96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#10: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:26:35 by outofthe

On 17 Jul 2006 18:21:10 -0700, &quot;dsc&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu" target="_blank">Dudley.Cornman&#64;eku.edu</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Haul things (like tear off shingles, trash, scrap steel) that are too
&gt;messy/dirty/etc or simply will not fit in the enclosed trailer... some
&gt;things fork lifted can be hard to get into an enclosed trailer too.

Good points... I should hang on to it in the event I get a life again.


&gt;
&gt;Aren't the straps supposed to hold the bike against the chock against
&gt;the pingles? Is there more than one size/type of pingle... maybe you
&gt;got a mismatch? Pingles are still a bit of a toe stubber. If you don't
&gt;really need the convient removeability... just bolt them down solid.

Problem discovered.... I asked for Pingel and got M&amp;R. My fault... the box
was blank but the instructions did say M&amp;R. The Pingel has a t-bolt to hold
the chock in the key slots. The M&amp;R does not. I'll add one. Bastards.

Mike


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99 KZ1000P

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#11: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:32:42 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:40:20 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Volker would have gone to home depot bought a dozen great stuff foam cans &amp;
&gt;some garbage bags tossed a couple cans in each bag then shoot them as he
&gt;tossed them into the trailer foaming the bike in place, then he'd stop by a
&gt;mini mart and grab a sixer &amp; some beef jerky so he could gas out his travel
&gt;companions.

Volker is The Man. I am only Volker on the web... it must be cool to be
Volker all the time. And hear people call you Volker. That would be cool
too. &quot;Volker... the hasenfeffer and beer are on us! Thank you for eating in
our restaurant Volker!&quot;, or &quot;Volker... that is a brilliant solution to
&lt;insert any problem here&gt;... if we had you in the 40's, we might have
won!&quot;... or &quot;Volker, did I see you with Dana Delany last night?&quot;. I want to
be Volker.

&gt;trailers are nice to have if you have the room, if no room buy wife a
&gt;smaller car and park it there. ( i hear she wants 30's T bucket with a
&gt;blower) for the bike shoe? i'm not used to holding down big weight bikes but
&gt;i would venture to say some angle iron on the bottom side of the trailer
&gt;might be a good thing down there to give you a solid backing for
&gt;fasteners... i'm sure there are some trailer princess Harley types around
&gt;the hood that could share some loading options...
&gt;john

More backing sounds smart... fender washers are the best but then, it's
only 1/4&quot; bolts going thru the floor so maybe backing isn't the only
problem.

Mike


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70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#12: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:34:40 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:19:06 -0500, &quot;Cebridge&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nojunkmail&#64;seeya.com" target="_blank">nojunkmail&#64;seeya.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;I had both when I first purchased my enclosed trailer. I found that once I
&gt;had the enclosed trailer I never used the utility trailer. I got too
&gt;spoiled with having a safe haven from the heat, rain, etc. And, I just love
&gt;having all my tools, parts and accessories on board when I go out to ride.

It would nearly totally make up for the *gay* horizontal opening back gate
on my truck. Could sit in there out of the rain.


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70 CT70
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99 KZ1000P

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#13: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:36:07 by outofthe

On 19 Jul 2006 06:56:48 -0700, &quot;Tal Isbell&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:tal.isbell&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">tal.isbell&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:


&gt;
&gt;Tal

Thank you for all the good points. I'm leaning toward hanging on to the
trailer.

Mike


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#14: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 18:38:18 by Dave_Sparkman

If you definitaley need the enclosed trailer I would keep both. I have
found that the small utility trailer is much more useful and flexable.
One thing I really like about a small one axle trailer is you can move
it around the yard by hand, so you can park it in a corner out of the
way. The enclosed trailer are too heavy to move around by hand and if
you get two axles on a trailer you can't turn them by hand.

-Dave-


Mike W. wrote:
&gt;
&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt; what I need the utility for.

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#15: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 19:37:15 by DirtCrashr

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:32:42 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;More backing sounds smart... fender washers are the best but then, it's
&gt;only 1/4&quot; bolts going thru the floor so maybe backing isn't the only
&gt;problem.

Floor-flexing and flange-flexing, it's a collectivist plot. Call the
Union Welders!

&gt;Mike

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#16: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 19:52:10 by DirtCrashr

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:34:40 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;&gt;I had both when I first purchased my enclosed trailer. I found that once I
&gt;&gt;had the enclosed trailer I never used the utility trailer. I got too
&gt;&gt;spoiled with having a safe haven from the heat, rain, etc. And, I just love
&gt;&gt;having all my tools, parts and accessories on board when I go out to ride.
&gt;
&gt;It would nearly totally make up for the *gay* horizontal opening back gate
&gt;on my truck. Could sit in there out of the rain.

Too bad there's not a convertible or pop-up trailer, or something with
a targa lid, so you can load it more freely, then zip it up to keep
the elements out.

Then you could paint the sides like this:
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&gt;
&gt;--
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&gt;96 XR400

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#17: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-19 23:13:56 by jayc

Mike W. wrote:
&gt; Two questions:
&gt;
&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt; what I need the utility for.

Well, would you put a pile of dirt in your enclosed trailer? How about
poop? What about a dead hooker? OK, maybe the dead hooker.

&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt; appreciated.

No way could the bike bounce out the shoe - not with the forks
compressed that far (unless you hit a REALLY big bump). Weld it. I
only collapse forks 10-20% when I tie a bike down, and I never have a
problem. However, I usually tie down the back too, from pegs or
subframe - the back straps pull against the front two, so the bike
can't move.

Jay

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#18: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:31:15 by outofthe

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:52:10 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:34:40 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
&gt;wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;I had both when I first purchased my enclosed trailer. I found that once I
&gt;&gt;&gt;had the enclosed trailer I never used the utility trailer. I got too
&gt;&gt;&gt;spoiled with having a safe haven from the heat, rain, etc. And, I just love
&gt;&gt;&gt;having all my tools, parts and accessories on board when I go out to ride.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;It would nearly totally make up for the *gay* horizontal opening back gate
&gt;&gt;on my truck. Could sit in there out of the rain.
&gt;
&gt;Too bad there's not a convertible or pop-up trailer, or something with
&gt;a targa lid, so you can load it more freely, then zip it up to keep
&gt;the elements out.
&gt;
&gt;Then you could paint the sides like this:
&gt;<a href="http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-097-big2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-097-big2.jpg</a>
&gt;or like this:
&gt;<a href="http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-083-big2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-083-big2.jpg</a>
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-061-big2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-061-big2.jpg</a>
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-021-big2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rhino-award.com/images/voting/05-021-big2.jpg</a>
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&gt;(<a href="http://www.rhino-award.com/rhino05sieger.php" target="_blank">http://www.rhino-award.com/rhino05sieger.php</a>)
&gt;

ROFL!!! I had the Pepsi as my winner until I saw that. My intent is to take
one of two tacks... label it as clearly of zero interest to some raggie
looking to swipe something, or dial the risk up.

For the former, I was thinking of a magnetic sign for Baxter's Diaper
Service.

For the latter, I have a number of spare CHP tank decals. Maybe just put
those near the door with a small note that says &quot;Contact Trooper Grass or
Agent Campbell at FBI anti-terrorism for any matters concerning this
trailer&quot;



&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;--
&gt;&gt;Mike W.
&gt;&gt;96 XR400

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96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#19: Re: Trailer questions

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:49:26 by outofthe

On 19 Jul 2006 14:13:56 -0700, &quot;JayC&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jwc&#64;sysmatrix.net" target="_blank">jwc&#64;sysmatrix.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Mike W. wrote:
&gt;&gt; Two questions:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; If you had an enclosed and a utility trailer, would you keep both? Not sure
&gt;&gt; what I need the utility for.
&gt;
&gt;Well, would you put a pile of dirt in your enclosed trailer? How about
&gt;poop? What about a dead hooker? OK, maybe the dead hooker.

These are good points. If you put the DH in the utility trailer, the tarp
always blows off. F that.

&gt;
&gt;&gt; Second re: Pingle bike shoe. Great design... respositionable. But on the
&gt;&gt; way up and on the way back from VT, one side of the shoe lifted out of the
&gt;&gt; mounting plates. I had what I thought was very good forward pressure with
&gt;&gt; the tie downs. The shoe is about 18&quot; from the front wall and the tie downs
&gt;&gt; are in the corners. I attached at the inboard position of the top of the
&gt;&gt; front engine guards. I figure I collapsed the forks about 60%. Any ideas
&gt;&gt; appreciated.
&gt;
&gt;No way could the bike bounce out the shoe - not with the forks
&gt;compressed that far (unless you hit a REALLY big bump). Weld it. I
&gt;only collapse forks 10-20% when I tie a bike down, and I never have a
&gt;problem. However, I usually tie down the back too, from pegs or
&gt;subframe - the back straps pull against the front two, so the bike
&gt;can't move.

It did bounce out, twice. I have the solution though that I'm installing as
soon as I finish RMD duty. There's a &quot;hold down&quot; at the front of the shoe
that keeps int in the keyway which the vendor did not feel I needed. Fuck
bone. I do tie down at the back but will be adding two more straps as
spring lines to supply an aft-directed force in case I need to stop hard.

Mike

&gt;
&gt;Jay

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96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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