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#1: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:36:04 by Terry Mosley

Posted earlier about the viscous coupler problem in my NP249J...thanks for
all the info...

But I'm thinking of changing over to the NP231 or NP242. I need to know
which is better( if at all) and what years are compatiable with mine. It
would be used for light off roading and a lot of highway driving.

Here are the specs.

1995 GCL 5.2L 46RH NP249 TC

What years will bolt into my ride? (I know I have to swap the input shafts
and the selectors).

TIA,
T

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#2: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:56:48 by Earle Horton

The full time four wheel drive mode of Selec-Trac would be useful for nasty
weather highway driving. From the reports, it is as robust as the NP231 for
off-road use, although it does have more moving parts. (More moving parts =
more potential points of failure.) From what you are saying about amount of
off road versus on road use, you want the NP242.

Earle

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&gt; Posted earlier about the viscous coupler problem in my NP249J...thanks for
&gt; all the info...
&gt;
&gt; But I'm thinking of changing over to the NP231 or NP242. I need to know
&gt; which is better( if at all) and what years are compatiable with mine. It
&gt; would be used for light off roading and a lot of highway driving.
&gt;
&gt; Here are the specs.
&gt;
&gt; 1995 GCL 5.2L 46RH NP249 TC
&gt;
&gt; What years will bolt into my ride? (I know I have to swap the input shafts
&gt; and the selectors).
&gt;
&gt; TIA,
&gt; T
&gt;
&gt;

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#3: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-21 06:38:20 by carl

The 242 has more vicous clutch packs, the 231 does not. 231 is generally
cheaper, but the 242's full time 4wd could be nice.

HTH

Carl

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&gt; The full time four wheel drive mode of Selec-Trac would be useful for
&gt; nasty
&gt; weather highway driving. From the reports, it is as robust as the NP231
&gt; for
&gt; off-road use, although it does have more moving parts. (More moving parts
&gt; =
&gt; more potential points of failure.) From what you are saying about amount
&gt; of
&gt; off road versus on road use, you want the NP242.
&gt;
&gt; Earle
&gt;
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&gt;&gt; Posted earlier about the viscous coupler problem in my NP249J...thanks
&gt;&gt; for
&gt;&gt; all the info...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; But I'm thinking of changing over to the NP231 or NP242. I need to know
&gt;&gt; which is better( if at all) and what years are compatiable with mine. It
&gt;&gt; would be used for light off roading and a lot of highway driving.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here are the specs.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; 1995 GCL 5.2L 46RH NP249 TC
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; What years will bolt into my ride? (I know I have to swap the input
&gt;&gt; shafts
&gt;&gt; and the selectors).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; TIA,
&gt;&gt; T
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#4: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-22 18:12:08 by Earle Horton

Afaik, Selec-Trac is a mechanical or gear system, with no viscous clutch
pack. You can find out for sure if you have an owner's manual. Does
Selec-Trac use a &quot;special&quot; fluid that has to be changed all the time, or
Dexron ATF?

&quot;The chain driven NP242 is a full time transfer case with a 48/52 torque
split front and rear.&quot;

<a href="http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Xfer/Factory/NP-242" target="_blank">http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Xfer/Factory/NP-242</a>
<a href="http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Cherokee/xfer/index.htm" target="_blank">http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Cherokee/xfer/index.htm</a>

&quot;Torque split&quot; means that there is a center differential, not a clutch pack.
There are web sites that say it has a clutch pack, but you can't believe
everything you read on the Internet.

Earle

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&gt; The 242 has more vicous clutch packs, the 231 does not. 231 is generally
&gt; cheaper, but the 242's full time 4wd could be nice.
&gt;
&gt; HTH
&gt;
&gt; Carl
&gt;
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&gt; &gt; The full time four wheel drive mode of Selec-Trac would be useful for
&gt; &gt; nasty
&gt; &gt; weather highway driving. From the reports, it is as robust as the NP231
&gt; &gt; for
&gt; &gt; off-road use, although it does have more moving parts. (More moving
parts
&gt; &gt; =
&gt; &gt; more potential points of failure.) From what you are saying about
amount
&gt; &gt; of
&gt; &gt; off road versus on road use, you want the NP242.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Earle
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &quot;TM&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:tmosley&#64;woh.rr.com" target="_blank">tmosley&#64;woh.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; &gt;&gt; Posted earlier about the viscous coupler problem in my NP249J...thanks
&gt; &gt;&gt; for
&gt; &gt;&gt; all the info...
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; But I'm thinking of changing over to the NP231 or NP242. I need to know
&gt; &gt;&gt; which is better( if at all) and what years are compatiable with mine.
It
&gt; &gt;&gt; would be used for light off roading and a lot of highway driving.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Here are the specs.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; 1995 GCL 5.2L 46RH NP249 TC
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; What years will bolt into my ride? (I know I have to swap the input
&gt; &gt;&gt; shafts
&gt; &gt;&gt; and the selectors).
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; TIA,
&gt; &gt;&gt; T
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#5: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-22 18:59:23 by Billy Ray

The manual says 2.85 pints of ATF+4 for my 242

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&gt; Afaik, Selec-Trac is a mechanical or gear system, with no viscous clutch
&gt; pack. You can find out for sure if you have an owner's manual. Does
&gt; Selec-Trac use a &quot;special&quot; fluid that has to be changed all the time, or
&gt; Dexron ATF?
&gt;
&gt; &quot;The chain driven NP242 is a full time transfer case with a 48/52 torque
&gt; split front and rear.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Xfer/Factory/NP-242" target="_blank">http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Xfer/Factory/NP-242</a>
&gt; <a href="http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Cherokee/xfer/index.htm" target="_blank">http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Cherokee/xfer/index.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Torque split&quot; means that there is a center differential, not a clutch
&gt; pack.
&gt; There are web sites that say it has a clutch pack, but you can't believe
&gt; everything you read on the Internet.
&gt;
&gt; Earle
&gt;
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&gt;&gt; The 242 has more vicous clutch packs, the 231 does not. 231 is generally
&gt;&gt; cheaper, but the 242's full time 4wd could be nice.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; HTH
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Carl
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; &gt; The full time four wheel drive mode of Selec-Trac would be useful for
&gt;&gt; &gt; nasty
&gt;&gt; &gt; weather highway driving. From the reports, it is as robust as the
&gt;&gt; &gt; NP231
&gt;&gt; &gt; for
&gt;&gt; &gt; off-road use, although it does have more moving parts. (More moving
&gt; parts
&gt;&gt; &gt; =
&gt;&gt; &gt; more potential points of failure.) From what you are saying about
&gt; amount
&gt;&gt; &gt; of
&gt;&gt; &gt; off road versus on road use, you want the NP242.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Earle
&gt;&gt; &gt;
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Posted earlier about the viscous coupler problem in my NP249J...thanks
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; for
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; all the info...
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; But I'm thinking of changing over to the NP231 or NP242. I need to
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; know
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; which is better( if at all) and what years are compatiable with mine.
&gt; It
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; would be used for light off roading and a lot of highway driving.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Here are the specs.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 1995 GCL 5.2L 46RH NP249 TC
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; What years will bolt into my ride? (I know I have to swap the input
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; shafts
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and the selectors).
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; TIA,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; T
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#6: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-23 02:10:05 by Terry Mosley

Thanks for the info guys....leaning toward the 242.

Any years not compatiable with mine (95 GCL 5.2L 46RH tranny) ?

T

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#7: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-23 02:17:43 by billhughes

<a href="http://www.delta4x4club.com/TECH/JEEP/249-242TCASESWAP.php" target="_blank">http://www.delta4x4club.com/TECH/JEEP/249-242TCASESWAP.php</a> About a
one toe job.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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TM wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the info guys....leaning toward the 242.
&gt;
&gt; Any years not compatiable with mine (95 GCL 5.2L 46RH tranny) ?
&gt;
&gt; T

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#8: Re: TC Swap in mind

Posted on 2006-07-23 03:12:15 by Terry Mosley

thanks, Bill

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