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#1: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-17 21:14:28 by spacetrax

A friend asked me for my opinion on these two vehicles. His wife likes
the seats in the Caravan better and they can get a "real deal" from the
dealer. I stopped by a DC booth at a local festival and this dealer
sold both DC and Honda.

The rep I talked to turned out to sell DC and said the reasons to buy
the Caravan are:

Less expensive
More sold than Odyssey (?)
Caravan will accomodate a 4x8' sheet of plywood
More seating options

Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
repair.

Did I miss something?

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#2: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:53:54 by Blue

butch burton wrote:

> A friend asked me for my opinion on these two vehicles. His wife likes
> the seats in the Caravan better and they can get a "real deal" from the
> dealer. I stopped by a DC booth at a local festival and this dealer
> sold both DC and Honda.
>
> The rep I talked to turned out to sell DC and said the reasons to buy
> the Caravan are:
>
> Less expensive
> More sold than Odyssey (?)
> Caravan will accomodate a 4x8' sheet of plywood
> More seating options
>
> Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
> Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
> repair.
>
> Did I miss something?

You missed nothing at all. CR is correct; Caravan is a proven piece of
junk. Although past Odyssey's had tranny issues (which Honda acknowledged
and worked to fix), Caravan has still had a higher rate of tranny
failure--and that is just one problem out of many that you are likely to
experience. Unlike Honda, Crapsler has never acknowledged those problems.

Bite the bullet and get an Odyssey or a Toyota Sienna.

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#3: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-18 00:17:08 by jmattis

> Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
> Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
> repair.
>
> Did I miss something?

In the long run, the Ody is "less expensive." Less depreciation, less
time getting repairs, much better vehicle. In 5 years, the Caravan is
junk. The Ody is just getting nicely broken in.

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#4: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-18 00:20:07 by ACAR

High Tech Misfit wrote:

>
> You missed nothing at all. CR is correct; Caravan is a proven piece of
> junk. Although past Odyssey's had tranny issues (which Honda acknowledged
> and worked to fix), Caravan has still had a higher rate of tranny
> failure--and that is just one problem out of many that you are likely to
> experience. Unlike Honda, Crapsler has never acknowledged those problems.
>
> Bite the bullet and get an Odyssey or a Toyota Sienna.

I agree with Mr. Misfit with the following exception; if you plan to
keep the car for only a few years the Caravan should be reliable
enough.

However, if you plan to keep the car until the wheels fall off I'd take
the Sienna or Odyssey (in that order of preference).

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#5: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-18 00:49:48 by unknown

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#6: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-18 18:53:24 by motsco__

butch burton wrote:
>
> A friend asked me for my opinion on these two vehicles. His wife likes
> the seats in the Caravan better and they can get a "real deal" from the
> dealer. I stopped by a DC booth at a local festival and this dealer
> sold both DC and Honda.
>
> The rep I talked to turned out to sell DC and said the reasons to buy
> the Caravan are:
>
> Less expensive
> More sold than Odyssey (?)
> Caravan will accomodate a 4x8' sheet of plywood
> More seating options
>
> Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
> Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
> repair.
>
> Did I miss something?

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---> More sold than Odyssey (?)---- TRUE

They sell lots of toilet paper too. Caravan is like toilet paper.
Relatively cheap, You have to have it, but it's not worth much after
it's USED.

'Curly'

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#7: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-18 20:11:12 by johnin

Well put guys!... nice to see that all of you know your good from bad vehicles.
my input on the caravan is crap too. unless you whant to have the headache
of seeing your mechanic or tec every so often and fork over money for a tranny and engine & stuff stay away! from the caravan and yes like someone has mentioned

already its cheaper in the long run to keep the odyssey even though honda did have an issue with the past auto transmission"s if its a used one were talking about you might want to look into buying a extended warrant on the auto trans for peace of mind
and remember if you ever buy a chrysler your going to cry afterword
"chry - seller" and re-grett it! =D


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#8: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-19 01:55:23 by Bluzeguitar

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1153174628.621954.150010&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153174628.621954.150010&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:jmattis&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jmattis&#64;attglobal.net</a> says...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
&gt;&gt; Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
&gt;&gt; repair.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Did I miss something?
&gt;
&gt;In the long run, the Ody is &quot;less expensive.&quot; Less depreciation, less
&gt;time getting repairs, much better vehicle. In 5 years, the Caravan is
&gt;junk. The Ody is just getting nicely broken in.

I have a 2000 model and it still, like all Hondas I've owned for long periods,
seems like it's 1 day old. I have a 96' Accord that still rides and (almost)
looks like a new car. This is what you get when you buy Honda. They are
great long-term investments.

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#9: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:27:10 by Matt Ion

butch burton wrote:
&gt; A friend asked me for my opinion on these two vehicles. His wife likes
&gt; the seats in the Caravan better and they can get a &quot;real deal&quot; from the
&gt; dealer. I stopped by a DC booth at a local festival and this dealer
&gt; sold both DC and Honda.
&gt;
&gt; The rep I talked to turned out to sell DC and said the reasons to buy
&gt; the Caravan are:
&gt;
&gt; Less expensive
&gt; More sold than Odyssey (?)
&gt; Caravan will accomodate a 4x8' sheet of plywood
&gt; More seating options
&gt;
&gt; Other than being less expensive - I see no compelling reason to buy the
&gt; Caravan - CR clearly favored the Odyssey for reasons of frequency of
&gt; repair.
&gt;
&gt; Did I miss something?

Well first, don't believe all the bullshit being blown about here... while I'm
an admitted Honda man (love my '87 Accords), I can tell you, my wife's '96 Grand
Voyager (Plymouth cousin to the Dodge Grand Caravan) has been an excellent
vehicle for the five years and couple hundred thousand km we've had it. No
major mechanical issues; the 3.8l V6 and auto tranny have performed just fine
and it has excellent fuel efficiency for the size of the motor and the weight
that it's lugging around. It's a great vehicle to drive, as far as larger
vehicles go (I prefer smaller cars, personally).

We looked at the Odyssey when we were shopping for this van, but for a similar
feature set (air, cruise, power everything, and the wife was adamant about
quad-seating - captain's seats in the middle rather than a bench - and dual
sliding doors) the Honda was SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive.

As far as &quot;frequency of repair&quot;, the only work we've had done in this time is an
A/C recharge and consenser replacaement (came from the dealer needing that),
regular maintenance, a new battery, and a couple brake jobs, one within a few
months of getting it (the shop said the previous owner had apparently had cheap
pads put in, which wore out faster with the heavier vehicle), and one after it
carried my wife and son and two friends on a Vancouver-Chicago road trip.

Yes, there were known problems with the transmissions in '95 and earlier
Caravans, but from '96 on Chrysler had pretty much taken care of that problem,
which is why we looked specifically for a '96 or later.

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#10: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-23 21:12:45 by unknown

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#11: Re: Odyssey vs Caravan

Posted on 2006-07-24 00:33:37 by Blue

Matt Ion wrote:

&gt; Yes, there were known problems with the transmissions in '95 and earlier
&gt; Caravans, but from '96 on Chrysler had pretty much taken care of that problem,
&gt; which is why we looked specifically for a '96 or later.

I know quite a few people with '96 and newer who had tranny problems. And
that is just one problem out of many. You were very, VERY lucky with yours.

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