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#1: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-17 00:01:25 by engkitten

I have a 1981 Honda silverwing interstate and as I am driving and using
my brakes they are gradually sticking harder and harder.. I have
replaced the brake pads, pistons and seals and taken the master
cyclinder off and cleaned... But I still am having problems with this
happening. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong. Thank you

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#2: Re: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-17 02:24:40 by Mark Olson

engkitten wrote:
> I have a 1981 Honda silverwing interstate and as I am driving and using
> my brakes they are gradually sticking harder and harder.. I have
> replaced the brake pads, pistons and seals and taken the master
> cyclinder off and cleaned... But I still am having problems with this
> happening. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong. Thank you

Do the calipers release their grip if you crack a bleeder screw?

If so, did you run a wire through the fluid return hole in the master
cylinder? It's covered by a little stamped steel piece that keeps
fluid from spraying up when the lever is released. It's a very small
hole, you need to pull off that piece, and poke a small wire through
the hole to get the congealed brake fluid out of there that is keeping
fluid pressure in the front brake lines.

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#3: Re: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-17 02:59:35 by Ken Long

&quot;engkitten&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:engkitten&#64;yahoo.ca" target="_blank">engkitten&#64;yahoo.ca</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;I have a 1981 Honda silverwing interstate and as I am driving and using
&gt;my brakes they are gradually sticking harder and harder.. I have
&gt;replaced the brake pads, pistons and seals and taken the master
&gt;cyclinder off and cleaned... But I still am having problems with this
&gt;happening. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong. Thank you

This is a common problem on those bikes and is caused by the little hole
in the master cylinder being plugged. I haven't had to fix one yet but I
understand the hole is really tiny.

Ken in Albuquerque
'82 Honda GL650 Silverwing
'02 Suzuki Savage

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#4: Re: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-19 22:49:25 by Mark

&gt;
&gt; If so, did you run a wire through the fluid return hole in the master
&gt; cylinder? It's covered by a little stamped steel piece that keeps
&gt; fluid from spraying up when the lever is released. It's a very small
&gt; hole, you need to pull off that piece, and poke a small wire through
&gt; the hole to get the congealed brake fluid out of there that is keeping
&gt; fluid pressure in the front brake lines.
&gt;

why did they design it that way?

what problem would be caused if the stamped piece is removed and the
fluid &quot;sprays&quot; inside the closed reservoiur?

Mark

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#5: Re: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-20 00:07:23 by OH-

&quot;Mark&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:makolber&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">makolber&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in
news:<a href="mailto:1153342163.725051.115270&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1153342163.725051.115270&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt;
&gt; why did they design it that way?
&gt;
&gt; what problem would be caused if the stamped piece is removed and the
&gt; fluid &quot;sprays&quot; inside the closed reservoiur?

You'd find out the next time you bleed the brakes ;-)

Apart from that, I can (just) imagine that there can be a deeper
technical reason that would have something to do with minimising
air / fluid mixing that would be much more effective with a
small fountain in the reservoir.

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#6: Re: 1981 honda silverwing front wheel seizing

Posted on 2006-07-20 05:24:23 by Mark Olson

OH- wrote:
&gt; &quot;Mark&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:makolber&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">makolber&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:1153342163.725051.115270&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1153342163.725051.115270&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt;
&gt;&gt;why did they design it that way?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;what problem would be caused if the stamped piece is removed and the
&gt;&gt;fluid &quot;sprays&quot; inside the closed reservoiur?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; You'd find out the next time you bleed the brakes ;-)
&gt;
&gt; Apart from that, I can (just) imagine that there can be a deeper
&gt; technical reason that would have something to do with minimising
&gt; air / fluid mixing that would be much more effective with a
&gt; small fountain in the reservoir.

Well batted, I hadn't thought of that but it makes sense.

Whenever one is tempted to remove a motorcycle part (AKA &quot;Muntzing&quot; [1])
because it's obviously not needed... stop, count to 20,,, count to 20
again... ...

[1] <a href="http://www.national.com/rap/Story/0,1562,17,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.national.com/rap/Story/0,1562,17,00.html</a>

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'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 '81 CM400T
OMF #7

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