Bookmarks

Yahoo Gmail Google Facebook Delicious Twitter Reddit Stumpleupon Myspace Digg

Search queries

sprocket xt 600, starter for 1984 honda 650 nighthawk, how to bypass crank position sensor honda, jensen interceptor ignition timing, rfactor f3 mod, temporary fix for crankshaft position sensor, rear brakes at 4mm, dr 350 cdi, 1992 dodge spirit fuel system, how long will 4mm brake pads last

Links

XODOX
Impressum

#1: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-10 21:13:22 by CB

Hi all !

Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.

After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature meter
we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited until it
was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
painfully...).

This happened to him already a couple of times before, on a motorway.
The dealer told him that this was normal (yeah he said that!) and due
to an overheating security on new 2006 models. According to him, this
system was first stopping the back cylinder, then if temp comtinues to
climb, the front one. Hope all new 2006 owners live in pole of close
to, because otherwise.... No need to say that this is quite dangerous,
except if it triggers only at very/very high temperatures, which was
never the case.


But anyhow, this was not what happened today. Bike was running well
until it was put off. Then it didn't restart, full stop. Ha, one point,
my friend had recently the injectors replaced by 25 models (HD service
bulletin) and an injection regulator (???) installed, all this under
warranty. Could it be rather an injection issue ?

Personaly, I have an Electra classic 2004 with injection, and I never
had any problem with temperature/overheating, despite I am living on
French Riviera, where air temperature is often around 35 degrees C, and
where traffic jams are permanent in July/August due to tourists rush.
Just may be my balls looking sometimes like dried figs....

Is anybody aware of this overheating security system, injection
regulator or issues ?

Thanks in advance for any advice. That would really be very helpful, as
we begin to think that dealer is telling fibs...


Christian

Report this message

#2: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-10 21:26:41 by Morgan Kane

cb wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
> Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
> degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.
>
> After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
> satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
> simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature meter
> we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited until it
> was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
> painfully...).
>
Snip
>
>
> Christian

I ride often with a couple that both rides 06 Roadking and they never
had that problem.
This is in Houston, Texas and we wish it was only 30 degrees C but
unfortunately its hotter then that all the time.

Tell the dealer to fix it..its not normal.

Report this message

#3: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 07:05:29 by roach

cb wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any advice. That would really be very helpful,
> as we begin to think that dealer is telling fibs...

That he is, laddie.

Report this message

#4: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 07:12:19 by Newt

cb wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
> Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
> degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.
>
> After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
> satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
> simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature meter
> we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited until it
> was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
> painfully...).
Sounds like a fuel injection problem to me....

Newt

Report this message

#5: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 09:27:09 by CB

Panic wrote:

>
&gt; &quot;Morgan Kane&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:morgankane65plug&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">morgankane65plug&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:12b5afhdkhu28a&#64;news.supernews.com..." target="_blank">12b5afhdkhu28a&#64;news.supernews.com...</a>
&gt; &gt; cb wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi all !
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new
&gt; 2006 &gt;&gt; Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was
&gt; around 32 &gt;&gt; degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French
&gt; Riviera.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
&gt; &gt;&gt; satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
&gt; &gt;&gt; simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature
&gt; meter &gt;&gt; we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited
&gt; until it &gt;&gt; was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
&gt; &gt;&gt; painfully...).
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Snip
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Christian
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I ride often with a couple that both rides 06 Roadking and they
&gt; &gt; never had that problem.
&gt; &gt; This is in Houston, Texas and we wish it was only 30 degrees C but
&gt; &gt; unfortunately its hotter then that all the time.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Tell the dealer to fix it..its not normal.
&gt;
&gt; I have an 06 RKC and the EFI will automatically regulate the rpms
&gt; based on how hot the bike is, may be something to do with that, but
&gt; haven't heard of a security feature. I haven't had it so hot that it
&gt; wouldn't start though, even in summer in Florida. I'd say there is a
&gt; problem with the bike, of course not being a mechanic, I'm just
&gt; guessing.

Thanks. In a way this reassures us. Sure there is a problem with the
bike, probably with injection as my friend has had problems with this
since the beginning. Were just 'hoping' that someone else had it before
and corrected, so we know how to argue againts the dealer. Definitly HD
support during warranty is shitty.

Cheers - Christian

Report this message

#6: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 09:34:46 by CB

Newt wrote:

&gt; cb wrote:
&gt; &gt; Hi all !
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
&gt; &gt; Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
&gt; &gt; degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
&gt; &gt; satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
&gt; &gt; simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature
&gt; &gt; meter we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited
&gt; &gt; until it was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
&gt; &gt; painfully...).
&gt; Sounds like a fuel injection problem to me....
&gt;
&gt; Newt

Thanks. That's what we believe so. This overtemp security is just
dealer hot air (...). May be there is some protection in injection
system itself, as I read somewhere in this group, so it would just be a
question of good setup. Problem is to oblige dealer to do something, as
he always says everything is normal. Will tell my friend to contact
another dealer, while bike is still under warranty, and see what
happens.

Report this message

#7: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 13:28:37 by unknown

Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)

Report this message

#8: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-11 16:23:20 by CB

ZombyWoof wrote:

&gt; On 10 Jul 2006 19:13:22 GMT, &quot;cb&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:boileau.christian2&#64;wanadoo.fr" target="_blank">boileau.christian2&#64;wanadoo.fr</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote something wonderfully witty:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Hi all !
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
&gt; &gt; Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
&gt; &gt; degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
&gt; &gt; satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
&gt; &gt; simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature
&gt; &gt; meter we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited
&gt; &gt; until it was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
&gt; &gt; painfully...).
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; This happened to him already a couple of times before, on a
&gt; &gt; motorway. The dealer told him that this was normal (yeah he said
&gt; &gt; that!) and due to an overheating security on new 2006 models.
&gt; &gt; According to him, this system was first stopping the back cylinder,
&gt; &gt; then if temp comtinues to climb, the front one. Hope all new 2006
&gt; &gt; owners live in pole of close to, because otherwise.... No need to
&gt; &gt; say that this is quite dangerous, except if it triggers only at
&gt; &gt; very/very high temperatures, which was never the case.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; But anyhow, this was not what happened today. Bike was running well
&gt; &gt; until it was put off. Then it didn't restart, full stop. Ha, one
&gt; &gt; point, my friend had recently the injectors replaced by 25 models
&gt; &gt; (HD service bulletin) and an injection regulator (???) installed,
&gt; &gt; all this under warranty. Could it be rather an injection issue ?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Personaly, I have an Electra classic 2004 with injection, and I
&gt; &gt; never had any problem with temperature/overheating, despite I am
&gt; &gt; living on French Riviera, where air temperature is often around 35
&gt; &gt; degrees C, and where traffic jams are permanent in July/August due
&gt; &gt; to tourists rush. Just may be my balls looking sometimes like
&gt; &gt; dried figs....
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Is anybody aware of this overheating security system, injection
&gt; &gt; regulator or issues ?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Thanks in advance for any advice. That would really be very
&gt; &gt; helpful, as we begin to think that dealer is telling fibs...
&gt; &gt;
&gt; It could be this issue --
&gt;
&gt; All 06 fuel injected Big Twins built before the middle of Feb. 06 have
&gt; 8° injectors installed. After that date they started installing 25°
&gt; CVO injectors in them and a bulletin came out that said any bike that
&gt; was experiencing problems like you describe or cold start problems
&gt; should have the 8° injectors replaced with the 25° by the dealer under
&gt; warranty. The Service Bulletin # is M-1185 which describes the
&gt; condition you are having and the ones my 06 RK had. My injectors were
&gt; replaced about 10 days after the bulletin came out and took care of my
&gt; problems. The cold start problem doesn't mean that it was hard staring
&gt; in cold temps., it meant it wouldn't start right off after sitting for
&gt; an extended period of time like overnight. My RK took 3 or 4 tries
&gt; before it started and ran and even then would cough and quit at times.
&gt; If your bike was built before the middle of Feb. 06 then it has the 8°
&gt; injectors in it. It is easy to check by look in toward the rear
&gt; cylinder from the left side past the horn cover and you can then see
&gt; the rear injector. Use a flashlight as it makes it easier to see. If
&gt; the number printed on it is C01 and 27625-06 then it is the 8°
&gt; injector. If the number printed on it is C01 25 DEG and 27709-06A then
&gt; you have the new 25° CVO injectors. I would almost bet you have the 8°
&gt; ones like I did. The 25° ones will fix your problem. Good luck and let
&gt; us know if this was your problem.
&gt;

Hi

Thanks for your message that I already read indeed elsewhere in this
group. Problem is that they already changes the injectors to the 25
ones on my friend's bike, as recommanded. Also, the bike has problems
rather when it's hot. Agree that it might be the same cause anyhow.

I recommended my friend to see another dealer, as he is in vacation
here in south of France. He is giving them his bike today for a
complete checkup of injection. Hope they have better experts here than
in Paris where he lives... Will post results however (if any). This may
help others.

Report this message

#9: Re: Anybody aware of a new overheating security system on Road king 2006 ?

Posted on 2006-07-21 00:39:54 by rbrtm01

&quot;cb&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:boileau.christian2&#64;wanadoo.fr" target="_blank">boileau.christian2&#64;wanadoo.fr</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:44b2a6d2$0$1008$<a href="mailto:ba4acef3&#64;news.orange.fr..." target="_blank">ba4acef3&#64;news.orange.fr...</a>
&gt; Hi all !
&gt;
&gt; Today, we had a trip with a friend of mine. He owns a brand new 2006
&gt; Road king (classic/injection). External temperature was around 32
&gt; degrees (celsius), which is quite common here on French Riviera.
&gt;
&gt; After one hour riding gently in smooth traffic, We had to stop to
&gt; satisfy some urgent call of nature (beer... beer...). And then he
&gt; simply could not restart his engine. As he has an oil temperature meter
&gt; we checked and we found that it was 94 degrees C. We waited until it
&gt; was down to 80 degrees and the bike restarted (even though
&gt; painfully...).
&gt;
&gt; This happened to him already a couple of times before, on a motorway.
&gt; The dealer told him that this was normal (yeah he said that!) and due
&gt; to an overheating security on new 2006 models. According to him, this
&gt; system was first stopping the back cylinder, then if temp comtinues to
&gt; climb, the front one. Hope all new 2006 owners live in pole of close
&gt; to, because otherwise.... No need to say that this is quite dangerous,
&gt; except if it triggers only at very/very high temperatures, which was
&gt; never the case.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; But anyhow, this was not what happened today. Bike was running well
&gt; until it was put off. Then it didn't restart, full stop. Ha, one point,
&gt; my friend had recently the injectors replaced by 25 models (HD service
&gt; bulletin) and an injection regulator (???) installed, all this under
&gt; warranty. Could it be rather an injection issue ?
&gt;
&gt; Personaly, I have an Electra classic 2004 with injection, and I never
&gt; had any problem with temperature/overheating, despite I am living on
&gt; French Riviera, where air temperature is often around 35 degrees C, and
&gt; where traffic jams are permanent in July/August due to tourists rush.
&gt; Just may be my balls looking sometimes like dried figs....
&gt;
&gt; Is anybody aware of this overheating security system, injection
&gt; regulator or issues ?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks in advance for any advice. That would really be very helpful, as
&gt; we begin to think that dealer is telling fibs...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Christian

I ride an 06 Electra Glide thru from the west side of Houston to the far
south side everyday, Monday the thermometer pegged out at 120 while going
home in the HOV lane after riding thru slow traffic. Don't have an oil
tempeture gauge so I don't know what the oil tempature is, but so far I
don't have that problem. And so far this week not one day has the
thermometer dropped below 100 out there in the middle of twelve lanes of
concrete.. I think somebody is jerking your chain..
&gt;

Report this message