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#1: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-10 18:37:04 by DirtCrashr

On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 01:11:32 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:53:23 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;In the interest of saving RMD, I'm only going to post in this thread for
&gt;&gt;the rest of my life. Anyone got anything you want to talk about?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mike
&gt;
&gt;see you all in a week or two. Take care.
&gt;
&gt;M

Have fun in Vermont, if that's possible.

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#2: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-17 19:43:40 by outofthe

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:37:04 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 01:11:32 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
&gt;wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:53:23 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;In the interest of saving RMD, I'm only going to post in this thread for
&gt;&gt;&gt;the rest of my life. Anyone got anything you want to talk about?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Mike
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;see you all in a week or two. Take care.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;M
&gt;
&gt;Have fun in Vermont, if that's possible.

I brought the KZP, as you know, and this year was definitely a good time.
The activities laid out differently. Didn't bring the bicycles but we got
more exercise and active living in. I completely negated any beneficial
effects by doing for eating what Da Vinci did for painting. One excellent
caprese was had.

While we did hit VTTB, I got the impression Mar wanted to do it solely to
observe *my* reaction to the up-with-people-too-fucking-happy tour guide
telling 20 year old teddy bear jokes (I can't bear it... like that) and my
utter fucking disdain for the cosmic unfairness that brings bus loads full
of formerly useful *old* people to smile vacantly at those shitty jokes and
the predictable stupid teddy bear shit. Full on adults getting excited they
are going to be given a &quot;free&quot; 4-inch piece of scrap fake fur from the
goddam bears. I hereby grant general and global permission, and in fact
insist that anyone not in my kill file to take my ass out with
compassionate prejudice the moment I start finding that kind of simulated
joy in such shitty pedestrian soul-less entertainment. My wife said Mar was
not disappointed.

She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?

The KZP was fun... I probably got about 250 miles of riding back roads,
highway and city. The speed limits up there are set far too high to react
to deer after dark... in lots of places the woods are just 15' from the
tar. I'll never have the stones to do 50 there with on-coming traffic
keeping my brights off. Ran into one guy that had seen my &quot;cop riding&quot; page
which was weird. I thought anything you post on the internet was as good as
anonymous:)

Several text message exchanges with Zippie have led to a combination
spiritual/commercial opportunity... exploiting a series of miracles that
were visited upon me each morning where certain.... waste... appeared to be
dead ringers for a series of important religious figures... Mary Magdolin
followed by the apostles Paul and Peter.

In other text news, from now on, HONO will assumed to mean an especially
nasty form of HOMO. You know who you are.

Observations:

Green lic plate - olympic class drinker, or if in a suburu, raging liberal.
Avoid.
NJ tags - rude and stupid yuppies. Avoid.

The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.


A good trip was had by all.

M


--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#3: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-17 19:52:57 by John

&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt; M

so how did you refrain from killing anybody?
john
breath in, breath out....

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#4: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:44:58 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:52:57 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt;&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt; M
&gt;
&gt;so how did you refrain from killing anybody?

I'm just one mellow dude.

&gt;john
&gt; breath in, breath out....
&gt;

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Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#5: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:47:47 by John

&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;out
&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:52:57 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt;&gt;&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt; M
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;so how did you refrain from killing anybody?
&gt;
&gt; I'm just one mellow dude.
&gt;

i guess i need to hang with you more often...
does the shore stink now or should i wait until the heat passes
john

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#6: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-17 23:14:01 by DirtCrashr

&gt;&gt;Have fun in Vermont, if that's possible.
&gt;
&gt;I brought the KZP, as you know,

Or as I discovered.

&gt;and this year was definitely a good time.
&gt;The activities laid out differently. Didn't bring the bicycles but we got
&gt;more exercise and active living in. I completely negated any beneficial
&gt;effects by doing for eating what Da Vinci did for painting. One excellent
&gt;caprese was had.

Caprese is good for you!

&gt;While we did hit VTTB, I got the impression Mar wanted to do it solely to
&gt;observe *my* reaction to the up-with-people-too-fucking-happy tour guide
&gt;telling 20 year old teddy bear jokes (I can't bear it... like that) and my
&gt;utter fucking disdain for the cosmic unfairness that brings bus loads full
&gt;of formerly useful *old* people to smile vacantly at those shitty jokes and
&gt;the predictable stupid teddy bear shit. Full on adults getting excited they
&gt;are going to be given a &quot;free&quot; 4-inch piece of scrap fake fur from the
&gt;goddam bears. I hereby grant general and global permission, and in fact
&gt;insist that anyone not in my kill file to take my ass out with
&gt;compassionate prejudice the moment I start finding that kind of simulated
&gt;joy in such shitty pedestrian soul-less entertainment. My wife said Mar was
&gt;not disappointed.

I take this to mean that you actually went to a Teddy-bear...jamboree?
Seminar? Trade show? Ice Cream Parlor? I don't remember this at
all.

Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
Unless you're a serious collector of 60-year old Steiff animals worth
upwards of $20K, these objects belong on the 200-yard line or in the
hands of a non-speaking 2-yr old. who's hopefully been locked in a
convenient closet.

&gt;She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
&gt;much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
&gt;feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
&gt;chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
&gt;that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?

It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;

&gt;The KZP was fun... I probably got about 250 miles of riding back roads,
&gt;highway and city. The speed limits up there are set far too high to react
&gt;to deer after dark... in lots of places the woods are just 15' from the
&gt;tar. I'll never have the stones to do 50 there with on-coming traffic
&gt;keeping my brights off. Ran into one guy that had seen my &quot;cop riding&quot; page
&gt;which was weird. I thought anything you post on the internet was as good as
&gt;anonymous:)

Speed limits are probably set by the Undertaker mob.

&gt;Several text message exchanges with Zippie have led to a combination
&gt;spiritual/commercial opportunity... exploiting a series of miracles that
&gt;were visited upon me each morning where certain.... waste... appeared to be
&gt;dead ringers for a series of important religious figures... Mary Magdolin
&gt;followed by the apostles Paul and Peter.
&gt;
&gt;In other text news, from now on, HONO will assumed to mean an especially
&gt;nasty form of HOMO. You know who you are.
&gt;
&gt;Observations:
&gt;
&gt;Green lic plate - olympic class drinker, or if in a suburu, raging liberal.
&gt;Avoid.
&gt;NJ tags - rude and stupid yuppies. Avoid.
&gt;
&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.

Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
Inch Mountain Howitzer.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>



&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;
&gt;M

Great!

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#7: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-18 16:43:37 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:47:47 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;out
&gt;&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:52:57 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; M
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;so how did you refrain from killing anybody?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'm just one mellow dude.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;i guess i need to hang with you more often...

Everyone eventually comes to that realization.

&gt;does the shore stink now or should i wait until the heat passes

There are two parts to the shore.... the wet side and the dry side. I tend
to dislike the dry side other than off season. So I think the dry side
tends to stink now. The wet side... it's always good. A bad day sailing....
what is that?

M

&gt;john
&gt;

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Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#8: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-18 16:52:19 by outofthe

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:14:01 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;&gt;While we did hit VTTB, I got the impression Mar wanted to do it solely to
&gt;&gt;observe *my* reaction to the up-with-people-too-fucking-happy tour guide
&gt;&gt;telling 20 year old teddy bear jokes (I can't bear it... like that) and my
&gt;&gt;utter fucking disdain for the cosmic unfairness that brings bus loads full
&gt;&gt;of formerly useful *old* people to smile vacantly at those shitty jokes and
&gt;&gt;the predictable stupid teddy bear shit. Full on adults getting excited they
&gt;&gt;are going to be given a &quot;free&quot; 4-inch piece of scrap fake fur from the
&gt;&gt;goddam bears. I hereby grant general and global permission, and in fact
&gt;&gt;insist that anyone not in my kill file to take my ass out with
&gt;&gt;compassionate prejudice the moment I start finding that kind of simulated
&gt;&gt;joy in such shitty pedestrian soul-less entertainment. My wife said Mar was
&gt;&gt;not disappointed.
&gt;
&gt;I take this to mean that you actually went to a Teddy-bear...jamboree?
&gt;Seminar? Trade show? Ice Cream Parlor? I don't remember this at
&gt;all.

To the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory... been doing it since Mar was tiny.

&gt;
&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?

You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
can't pick your traditions:)

&gt;
&gt;&gt;She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
&gt;&gt;much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
&gt;&gt;feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
&gt;&gt;chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
&gt;&gt;that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?
&gt;
&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;

ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)

&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt;
&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>

Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)

You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
It was tasty.

&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;M
&gt;
&gt;Great!

Mot.

(Word in French)

She hates my attempts to speak French to her...

(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?

This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.

M


--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P

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#9: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-18 17:03:56 by John

&quot;Mike W.&quot;
&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:47:47 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;out
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:52:57 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; M
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;so how did you refrain from killing anybody?
&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm just one mellow dude.
&gt;&gt;i guess i need to hang with you more often...
&gt; Everyone eventually comes to that realization.

i think i'm loosing IQ points, takes me longer to catch on

&gt;&gt;does the shore stink now or should i wait until the heat passes
&gt; There are two parts to the shore.... the wet side and the dry side. I tend
&gt; to dislike the dry side other than off season. So I think the dry side
&gt; tends to stink now. The wet side... it's always good. A bad day
&gt; sailing....
&gt; what is that?

I was thinking about the dry side having more eating
opportunities than the wet side, if we see Teddies boat
out there can I man the helm &lt;evil grin&gt;
john
rental boat dude asks: &quot;would you like insurance with today's rental&quot;
me: &quot;You bet give me the works&quot;


&gt; M
&gt;
&gt;&gt;john
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Mike W.
&gt; 96 XR400
&gt; 70 CT70
&gt; 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
&gt; 99 KZ1000P

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#10: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-18 19:23:46 by DirtCrashr

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:52:19 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;&gt;I take this to mean that you actually went to a Teddy-bear...jamboree?
&gt;&gt;Seminar? Trade show? Ice Cream Parlor? I don't remember this at
&gt;&gt;all.
&gt;
&gt;To the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory... been doing it since Mar was tiny.

I only remember hearing about the Ben and Jerry's stuff and VonTrapped
in an Attic,,, my mind must have blanked-out to shield me from the
horror of a &quot;teddy bear factory&quot;

&gt;&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
&gt;
&gt;You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
&gt;can't pick your traditions:)

What's that? I come from a place without tradition. The roots only
go down a few inches before hitting asphalt. There are some invented
fictions of my mother's that involve Sweden, and by my dad involving
(recently) Huguenots. But we were uprooted and transported and
separated, so we don't do that.


&gt;&gt;&gt;She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
&gt;&gt;&gt;much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
&gt;&gt;&gt;feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
&gt;&gt;&gt;chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
&gt;&gt;&gt;that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt;&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt;&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;
&gt;
&gt;ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt;&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>
&gt;
&gt;Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
&gt;Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
&gt;penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
&gt;shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)

Cheating on the lines?

&gt;You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
&gt;right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
&gt;It was tasty.

Hmmm.. Eiger Sanction - you could help the Wikipedia effort
enormously, they're very weak. We drove through Interlaken and camped
outside at a park somewhere. It was damn cold. I slept in the back
of the bus over the engine.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction</a>


&gt;&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Great!
&gt;
&gt;Mot.
&gt;
&gt;(Word in French)

Bon mot!?

&gt;She hates my attempts to speak French to her...
&gt;
&gt;(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?
&gt;
&gt;This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
&gt;her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.
&gt;
&gt;M

But of course!!

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#11: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-18 19:35:43 by XR650L_Dave

DirtCrashr wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:52:19 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;I take this to mean that you actually went to a Teddy-bear...jamboree?
&gt; &gt;&gt;Seminar? Trade show? Ice Cream Parlor? I don't remember this at
&gt; &gt;&gt;all.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;To the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory... been doing it since Mar was tiny.
&gt;
&gt; I only remember hearing about the Ben and Jerry's stuff and VonTrapped
&gt; in an Attic,,, my mind must have blanked-out to shield me from the
&gt; horror of a &quot;teddy bear factory&quot;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
&gt; &gt;can't pick your traditions:)
&gt;
&gt; What's that? I come from a place without tradition. The roots only
&gt; go down a few inches before hitting asphalt. There are some invented
&gt; fictions of my mother's that involve Sweden, and by my dad involving
&gt; (recently) Huguenots. But we were uprooted and transported and
&gt; separated, so we don't do that.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt; &gt;&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt; &gt;&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt; &gt;&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt; &gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
&gt; &gt;Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
&gt; &gt;penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
&gt; &gt;shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)
&gt;
&gt; Cheating on the lines?
&gt;
&gt; &gt;You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
&gt; &gt;right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
&gt; &gt;It was tasty.
&gt;
&gt; Hmmm.. Eiger Sanction - you could help the Wikipedia effort
&gt; enormously, they're very weak. We drove through Interlaken and camped
&gt; outside at a park somewhere. It was damn cold. I slept in the back
&gt; of the bus over the engine.
&gt; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction</a>
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Great!
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Mot.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;(Word in French)
&gt;
&gt; Bon mot!?
&gt;
&gt; &gt;She hates my attempts to speak French to her...
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
&gt; &gt;her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;M
&gt;
&gt; But of course!!

1 other Trevanian book made it to the movies, I think?
Could just go see what wiki says, but have I mentioned I'm lazy?

DDave

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#12: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:54:50 by outofthe

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:03:56 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">john-----rmd---removedashes---&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot;
&gt;&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:47:47 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;out
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:52:57 GMT, &quot;john&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;ou
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; M
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;so how did you refrain from killing anybody?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm just one mellow dude.
&gt;&gt;&gt;i guess i need to hang with you more often...
&gt;&gt; Everyone eventually comes to that realization.
&gt;
&gt;i think i'm loosing IQ points,

That slows down after a while.

&gt;takes me longer to catch on
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;does the shore stink now or should i wait until the heat passes
&gt;&gt; There are two parts to the shore.... the wet side and the dry side. I tend
&gt;&gt; to dislike the dry side other than off season. So I think the dry side
&gt;&gt; tends to stink now. The wet side... it's always good. A bad day
&gt;&gt; sailing....
&gt;&gt; what is that?
&gt;
&gt;I was thinking about the dry side having more eating
&gt;opportunities than the wet side, if we see Teddies boat
&gt;out there can I man the helm &lt;evil grin&gt;

I know a place to eat! With the right warning, I could do this.

M


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#13: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-19 17:23:07 by outofthe

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:23:46 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:52:19 -0400, Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt;
&gt;wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;I take this to mean that you actually went to a Teddy-bear...jamboree?
&gt;&gt;&gt;Seminar? Trade show? Ice Cream Parlor? I don't remember this at
&gt;&gt;&gt;all.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;To the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory... been doing it since Mar was tiny.
&gt;
&gt;I only remember hearing about the Ben and Jerry's stuff and VonTrapped
&gt;in an Attic,,, my mind must have blanked-out to shield me from the
&gt;horror of a &quot;teddy bear factory&quot;

It's must been that I've always felt there were other great places to go...
but suddenly, tradition matters to me. At least as long as I can bring the
KZP up with me:)

&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
&gt;&gt;can't pick your traditions:)
&gt;
&gt;What's that? I come from a place without tradition. The roots only
&gt;go down a few inches before hitting asphalt. There are some invented
&gt;fictions of my mother's that involve Sweden, and by my dad involving
&gt;(recently) Huguenots. But we were uprooted and transported and
&gt;separated, so we don't do that.

They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
we got.

&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;She totally declined on the Ben &amp; Jerry's tour to my enormous surprise. As
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;much as I dislike the dishonesty in their politics and economics, it did
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;feel like something was missing with Mar deciding not to wade into that
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;chaotic swirl of 0-14 year olds. And now what will I do with my &quot;Hey...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that looks a LOT like a nuclear reactor&quot; line from the observation room?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt;&gt;&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt;&gt;&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt;&gt;&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>

That would SO fit in in the von Trapp meadows.

&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
&gt;&gt;Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
&gt;&gt;penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
&gt;&gt;shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)
&gt;
&gt;Cheating on the lines?
&gt;
&gt;&gt;You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
&gt;&gt;right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
&gt;&gt;It was tasty.
&gt;
&gt;Hmmm.. Eiger Sanction - you could help the Wikipedia effort
&gt;enormously, they're very weak. We drove through Interlaken and camped
&gt;outside at a park somewhere. It was damn cold. I slept in the back
&gt;of the bus over the engine.
&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction</a>
&gt;

I was just there on a day trip in a courtesy Merc provided by my hotel, the
Baur Au Lac in Zurich. Man, that was a good day. The goulash soup in
Lucerne by &quot;the bridge&quot; was also wonderful.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Great!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mot.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;(Word in French)
&gt;
&gt;Bon mot!?

We

&gt;
&gt;&gt;She hates my attempts to speak French to her...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
&gt;&gt;her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;M
&gt;
&gt;But of course!!

Or Ev Wah

M


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#14: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-19 18:41:29 by John

&quot;Mike W.&quot; &lt;o
&gt; I know a place to eat! With the right warning, I could do this.
&gt;
&gt; M

black helicopter is booked this week
I'll have my people call your people
when the urge strikes. i'm thinking
september when the minions are in school

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#15: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-19 19:15:28 by DirtCrashr

Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&gt;I only remember hearing about the Ben and Jerry's stuff and VonTrapped
&gt;&gt;in an Attic,,, my mind must have blanked-out to shield me from the
&gt;&gt;horror of a &quot;teddy bear factory&quot;
&gt;
&gt;It's must been that I've always felt there were other great places to go...

In VT?

&gt;but suddenly, tradition matters to me. At least as long as I can bring the
&gt;KZP up with me:)

Creating a new tradition, the Bringing of the Bike?

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
&gt;&gt;&gt;can't pick your traditions:)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;What's that? I come from a place without tradition. The roots only
&gt;&gt;go down a few inches before hitting asphalt. There are some invented
&gt;&gt;fictions of my mother's that involve Sweden, and by my dad involving
&gt;&gt;(recently) Huguenots. But we were uprooted and transported and
&gt;&gt;separated, so we don't do that.
&gt;
&gt;They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
&gt;we got.

What I make is &quot;Trad-i-toon&quot; - a cartoonish subset of &quot;Trad-i-gee&quot; --
like the disappointment of mud-pies that dry out and break apart in
the heat. Ephemera.

We don't have the storage for tradition, no big closets or attics as
is traditionally the location. I keep getting rid of it and throwing
more junk in the dumpster - when new stuff comes in old stuff goes
out.
Did you go to your 30th Class Reunion? Me neither. Either of them.

My folks are coming back from Halifax tonight, my dad has probably
finished making up a pretend tradition of being a Huguenot, that I'm
going to have to throw in the dumpster.

&lt;snippet&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>
&gt;
&gt;That would SO fit in in the von Trapp meadows.

They're Austrian so you'd need one of these really, it expresses the
&quot;maschinenbau ingineur&quot; and technological aspects of being Austrian:
<a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWskoda.htm" target="_blank">http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWskoda.htm</a>

here they are in action (bottom of the page):
<a href="http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Przemysl/Przemysl_Austrian_02.htm" target="_blank"> http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Przemysl/Przemysl _Austrian_02.htm</a>


&gt;&gt;&gt;Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
&gt;&gt;&gt;Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
&gt;&gt;&gt;shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Cheating on the lines?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
&gt;&gt;&gt;It was tasty.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Hmmm.. Eiger Sanction - you could help the Wikipedia effort
&gt;&gt;enormously, they're very weak. We drove through Interlaken and camped
&gt;&gt;outside at a park somewhere. It was damn cold. I slept in the back
&gt;&gt;of the bus over the engine.
&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;I was just there on a day trip in a courtesy Merc provided by my hotel, the
&gt;Baur Au Lac in Zurich. Man, that was a good day. The goulash soup in
&gt;Lucerne by &quot;the bridge&quot; was also wonderful.

Goulasch is good, yum on a cold day.

To change Geography- Did you ever see this movie? I never even heard
of it...but Sinatra and McQueen, Paul Henreid and even Bronson...??
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/102-7627798-0469764?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=130" target="_blank"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/ 102-7627798-0469764?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=130</a>



&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Great!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Mot.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;(Word in French)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Bon mot!?
&gt;
&gt;We
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;She hates my attempts to speak French to her...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
&gt;&gt;&gt;her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;But of course!!
&gt;
&gt;Or Ev Wah

Mercy!

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#16: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-20 03:21:52 by Charles Stembridge

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:i9psb2hfjjepm9tnn5cp68og390v1ncnfl&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">i9psb2hfjjepm9tnn5cp68og390v1ncnfl&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;,
DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; To change Geography- Did you ever see this movie? I never even heard
&gt; of it...but Sinatra and McQueen, Paul Henreid and even Bronson...??
&gt; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/102-7627798-046976" target="_blank"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/ 102-7627798-046976</a>
&gt; 4?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=130

Sounds interesting. I'll give it a shot.

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#17: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:29:07 by outofthe

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:15:28 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Mike W. &lt;<a href="mailto:outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com" target="_blank">outofthe&#64;emailbiz.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;I only remember hearing about the Ben and Jerry's stuff and VonTrapped
&gt;&gt;&gt;in an Attic,,, my mind must have blanked-out to shield me from the
&gt;&gt;&gt;horror of a &quot;teddy bear factory&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;It's must been that I've always felt there were other great places to go...
&gt;
&gt;In VT?

the world

&gt;
&gt;&gt;but suddenly, tradition matters to me. At least as long as I can bring the
&gt;&gt;KZP up with me:)
&gt;
&gt;Creating a new tradition, the Bringing of the Bike?

More like surviving the interstitial sameness between the non-flagship
moments of tradition maybe

&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Why is this vacation-ruining *event-thing* even on the itinerary?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;You do tradition:) Apparently me reacting to it is now tradition... you
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;can't pick your traditions:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;What's that? I come from a place without tradition. The roots only
&gt;&gt;&gt;go down a few inches before hitting asphalt. There are some invented
&gt;&gt;&gt;fictions of my mother's that involve Sweden, and by my dad involving
&gt;&gt;&gt;(recently) Huguenots. But we were uprooted and transported and
&gt;&gt;&gt;separated, so we don't do that.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
&gt;&gt;we got.
&gt;
&gt;What I make is &quot;Trad-i-toon&quot; - a cartoonish subset of &quot;Trad-i-gee&quot; --
&gt;like the disappointment of mud-pies that dry out and break apart in
&gt;the heat. Ephemera.

Hardcore.


[Outdoor]

SERIES OF SHOTS

A. [Long establishing shot - low angle - b&amp;w - from your 7 oclock] You, at
age 9, kneel in the dirt of an unnamed hot dusty apocalyptic place that
would make anyone wish they were in Beirut... A little dust blowing past is
the only evidence this is a live shot and not a photo... the shot lingers
for longer than you think... time doesn't seem to matter here.

B. [Slow dissolve to overhead crane shot] Above young Keith (your head is
at 9 oclock in the shot)... dirty.. kneeling over something.. hidden from
the camera. A whisp of dust blows in the corner of the shot.

C. [Standard dissolve to low angle long shot - 1/3 the distance of shot A -
from the boy's 11 oclock] Keith's head is still down.. we can't see what
he's doing yet... if you look carefully, in the distance behind Keith, you
can see a person hanging from a rope around their neck with a toppled stool
underneath them... a one-armed Mexican with a wooden crutch and a burro
enters the shot and begins to remove the corpse's shoes... he struggles.
But the boy in the dirt is what the shot is all about.

D. [Standard dissolve to reaction shot - low angle] His face in the shade
of the punishing hot sunny sky... fade in the initial tender lonely notes
of Gypsy Kings Hotel California from silence - the boy's expression is
cold.. stoic.. he is used to setbacks..

E. [Cut to POV shot] Young Keith watches his mud pie crumble through his
tiny, dirty fingers despite his delicate handling. His only toy is....
gone.

F. [Cut to closeup of young Keith] His eyes reveals the &quot;hope of the mud
pie&quot; has been crushingly transformed into the &quot;cold reality of
hopelessness&quot; that will always be his life... an Iron Eyes Cody type tear
slowly washing it's way down through the layers of dirt on your cheek.. a
little pink skin is the only color in the shot. This shot also lingers...
like his pain.. until the first pause in HC. One beat after the pause in
the music hits, his head snaps to the side and his eyes get HUGE... he
begins a manic dive to the side for his life!

G. [Cut back to 3/4 low angle shot] as Keith is half way thru his dive -
you see the side of a shiny black limo only from the door handles to just
below the hub cap bottoms careen through where he and his mud pie had been
saying goodbye to each other. Dust explodes in the air... The first heavy
beat that precedes the straining vocal marks entry of the limo into the
shot. You see the young boy settling onto his ass and looking at what past
trying to make sense of it, but quickly you cut to...

H. [Cut to interior shot of back seat of limo] A happy young Mike, clean
and dressed smartly is reading Yachting magazine. Through the rear window,
you can see the limo is slowing and turning into someplace as young Keith
gets smaller in the background. As the limo turns more, you also glimpse
the Mexican &quot;kneeling&quot;/balancing over the burro, apparently dead from heat
stroke. Whatever...

I. [Cut to establishing shot of dusty gas station] - the limo pulls in.

END SERIES OF SHOTS

[High shot through the back side window of the limo] Young Keith can seen
sitting in a swirling cloud of dust with Beirut behind him... Mike looks
out the window. They seem to know each other already. Keith picks himself
up and approach the limo window and stand there a moment as Mike looks over
the dirty boy outside his door. The window lowers......

Mike: &quot;You want to carry my brief case?&quot;

Keith: &quot;Sure.&quot;

Mike: &quot;Cool&quot;



This is how we got here... right? :)

&gt;
&gt;We don't have the storage for tradition, no big closets or attics as
&gt;is traditionally the location. I keep getting rid of it and throwing
&gt;more junk in the dumpster - when new stuff comes in old stuff goes
&gt;out.
&gt;Did you go to your 30th Class Reunion? Me neither. Either of them.

I only went to the first two and the second, only because I was talked into
it. I'm done with that. One guy I used to play hockey with is now the
&quot;assistant manager&quot; of a second hand porn shop. How the HELL do you make
him feel good if you end up talking? Screw it.

&gt;
&gt;My folks are coming back from Halifax tonight, my dad has probably
&gt;finished making up a pretend tradition of being a Huguenot, that I'm
&gt;going to have to throw in the dumpster.

The process is your tradition. Embrace it.

&gt;
&gt;&lt;snippet&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It's an Anime thing: climb up onto (or Helicopter, even better) the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;roof with Mar dressed in Ninja-black, and smashing a skylight descend
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;on ropes carrying megaphones shouting &quot;THIS IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR!&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;ROFL... something to do with Flash maybe:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;The climbing wall looks easy but isn't.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Since climbing is involved, should make a good target for the 3.7
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Inch Mountain Howitzer.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg" target="_blank"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3-7_inch_mountain_gun.jpg</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;That would SO fit in in the von Trapp meadows.
&gt;
&gt;They're Austrian so you'd need one of these really, it expresses the
&gt;&quot;maschinenbau ingineur&quot; and technological aspects of being Austrian:
&gt;<a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWskoda.htm" target="_blank">http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWskoda.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt;here they are in action (bottom of the page):
&gt;<a href="http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Przemysl/Przemysl_Austrian_02.htm" target="_blank"> http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Przemysl/Przemysl _Austrian_02.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Margaret was Clint Eastwood and I was George Kennedy as she scaled the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Eiger. This allowed me to quote a line from the movie without a swear jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;penalty... &quot;If either of you two ghouls so much as touch that scope I'll
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;shove it up your ass&quot;. Or something like that. Whatever... I was cheating:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Cheating on the lines?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;You know... I have had coffee and chocolates (~$25/serving.... HP's money:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;right where that telescope was set up at the Victoria Hotel in Interlaken.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It was tasty.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Hmmm.. Eiger Sanction - you could help the Wikipedia effort
&gt;&gt;&gt;enormously, they're very weak. We drove through Interlaken and camped
&gt;&gt;&gt;outside at a park somewhere. It was damn cold. I slept in the back
&gt;&gt;&gt;of the bus over the engine.
&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eiger_Sanction</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;I was just there on a day trip in a courtesy Merc provided by my hotel, the
&gt;&gt;Baur Au Lac in Zurich. Man, that was a good day. The goulash soup in
&gt;&gt;Lucerne by &quot;the bridge&quot; was also wonderful.
&gt;
&gt;Goulasch is good, yum on a cold day.
&gt;
&gt;To change Geography- Did you ever see this movie? I never even heard
&gt;of it...but Sinatra and McQueen, Paul Henreid and even Bronson...??
&gt;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/102-7627798-0469764?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=130" target="_blank"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0008ENHU8/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/ 102-7627798-0469764?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=130</a>
&gt;

No... the reviews aren't kind to it though. I might rather make the one
above.

&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;A good trip was had by all.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Great!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Mot.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(Word in French)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Bon mot!?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;We
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;She hates my attempts to speak French to her...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(pointing to mouth) gnus reek too?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This method of requesting at table at a nice restaurant seemed to horrify
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;her but drew a chuckle from some people nearby from Quebec.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;M
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;But of course!!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Or Ev Wah
&gt;
&gt;Mercy!

Bone Jew Er

M


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#18: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-21 20:05:59 by DirtCrashr

&gt;&gt;&gt;It's must been that I've always felt there were other great places to go...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;In VT?
&gt;
&gt;the world

Vermont must be like Saslzburg without the Mozart Balls and girls in
Dirndls.

&gt;&gt;&gt;but suddenly, tradition matters to me. At least as long as I can bring the
&gt;&gt;&gt;KZP up with me:)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Creating a new tradition, the Bringing of the Bike?
&gt;
&gt;More like surviving the interstitial sameness between the non-flagship
&gt;moments of tradition maybe

Maybe clinging to anything that helps survive the void, a life-raft,
is a good Tradition.


&gt;&gt;&gt;They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
&gt;&gt;&gt;we got.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;What I make is &quot;Trad-i-toon&quot; - a cartoonish subset of &quot;Trad-i-gee&quot; --
&gt;&gt;like the disappointment of mud-pies that dry out and break apart in
&gt;&gt;the heat. Ephemera.
&gt;
&gt;Hardcore.

I just ment that tradition and tragedy are linked.

&gt;[Outdoor]
&gt;
&gt;SERIES OF SHOTS
&gt;
&gt;A. [Long establishing shot - low angle - b&amp;w - from your 7 oclock] You, at
&gt;age 9, kneel in the dirt of an unnamed hot dusty apocalyptic place that
&gt;would make anyone wish they were in Beirut... A little dust blowing past is
&gt;the only evidence this is a live shot and not a photo... the shot lingers
&gt;for longer than you think... time doesn't seem to matter here.

We had a lawn...

&gt;B. [Slow dissolve to overhead crane shot] Above young Keith (your head is
&gt;at 9 oclock in the shot)... dirty.. kneeling over something.. hidden from
&gt;the camera. A whisp of dust blows in the corner of the shot.

Probably the red-ants. They sting and swarm you and sting s'more.

&gt;C. [Standard dissolve to low angle long shot - 1/3 the distance of shot A -
&gt;from the boy's 11 oclock] Keith's head is still down.. we can't see what
&gt;he's doing yet... if you look carefully, in the distance behind Keith, you
&gt;can see a person hanging from a rope around their neck with a toppled stool
&gt;underneath them... a one-armed Mexican with a wooden crutch and a burro
&gt;enters the shot and begins to remove the corpse's shoes... he struggles.
&gt;But the boy in the dirt is what the shot is all about.

relocate the bullock-cart, but it's close enough

&gt;D. [Standard dissolve to reaction shot - low angle] His face in the shade
&gt;of the punishing hot sunny sky... fade in the initial tender lonely notes
&gt;of Gypsy Kings Hotel California from silence - the boy's expression is
&gt;cold.. stoic.. he is used to setbacks..

and back-seats. From the back of the Willys I used to pretend I was a
tail-gunner, blasting away with twin-fifties at little temple-shrines
on the roadside.

&gt;E. [Cut to POV shot] Young Keith watches his mud pie crumble through his
&gt;tiny, dirty fingers despite his delicate handling. His only toy is....
&gt;gone.

Word...

&gt;F. [Cut to closeup of young Keith] His eyes reveals the &quot;hope of the mud
&gt;pie&quot; has been crushingly transformed into the &quot;cold reality of
&gt;hopelessness&quot; that will always be his life... an Iron Eyes Cody type tear
&gt;slowly washing it's way down through the layers of dirt on your cheek.. a
&gt;little pink skin is the only color in the shot. This shot also lingers...
&gt;like his pain.. until the first pause in HC. One beat after the pause in
&gt;the music hits, his head snaps to the side and his eyes get HUGE... he
&gt;begins a manic dive to the side for his life!

Like when my brother smashed my head on the concrete and broke my
tooth?

&gt;G. [Cut back to 3/4 low angle shot] as Keith is half way thru his dive -
&gt;you see the side of a shiny black limo only from the door handles to just
&gt;below the hub cap bottoms careen through where he and his mud pie had been
&gt;saying goodbye to each other. Dust explodes in the air... The first heavy
&gt;beat that precedes the straining vocal marks entry of the limo into the
&gt;shot. You see the young boy settling onto his ass and looking at what past
&gt;trying to make sense of it, but quickly you cut to...

A Hindustan Standard, they come in one color, Black. But that's not
one.
<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422</a>


&gt;H. [Cut to interior shot of back seat of limo] A happy young Mike, clean
&gt;and dressed smartly is reading Yachting magazine. Through the rear window,
&gt;you can see the limo is slowing and turning into someplace as young Keith
&gt;gets smaller in the background. As the limo turns more, you also glimpse
&gt;the Mexican &quot;kneeling&quot;/balancing over the burro, apparently dead from heat
&gt;stroke. Whatever...

<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425</a>

It was a bullock-cart driver and a cobra bit him.

&gt;I. [Cut to establishing shot of dusty gas station] - the limo pulls in.
&gt;
&gt;END SERIES OF SHOTS
&gt;
&gt;[High shot through the back side window of the limo] Young Keith can seen
&gt;sitting in a swirling cloud of dust with Beirut behind him... Mike looks
&gt;out the window. They seem to know each other already. Keith picks himself
&gt;up and approach the limo window and stand there a moment as Mike looks over
&gt;the dirty boy outside his door. The window lowers......
&gt;
&gt;Mike: &quot;You want to carry my brief case?&quot;
&gt;
&gt;Keith: &quot;Sure.&quot;

Just as long as it's not a Camelbak.

&gt;Mike: &quot;Cool&quot;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;This is how we got here... right? :)

Only because I figured there's ordnance in the briefcase.
I always keep a gun in mine anyhow. Mauser HSc.

&gt;&gt;We don't have the storage for tradition, no big closets or attics as
&gt;&gt;is traditionally the location. I keep getting rid of it and throwing
&gt;&gt;more junk in the dumpster - when new stuff comes in old stuff goes
&gt;&gt;out.
&gt;&gt;Did you go to your 30th Class Reunion? Me neither. Either of them.
&gt;
&gt;I only went to the first two and the second, only because I was talked into
&gt;it. I'm done with that. One guy I used to play hockey with is now the
&gt;&quot;assistant manager&quot; of a second hand porn shop. How the HELL do you make
&gt;him feel good if you end up talking? Screw it.

Why make him feel good? That's not what I learned it's about, it's
about rubbing his face in it. Use the briefcase next time.

&gt;&gt;My folks are coming back from Halifax tonight, my dad has probably
&gt;&gt;finished making up a pretend tradition of being a Huguenot, that I'm
&gt;&gt;going to have to throw in the dumpster.
&gt;
&gt;The process is your tradition. Embrace it.

Film you process, with black and white you wash off the dead
silver-halides and keep the live ones. With color it's blix - bleach
and fix.

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#19: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:18:23 by outofthe

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:05:59 -0700, DirtCrashr &lt;<a href="mailto:Dirt&#64;Crashr.com" target="_blank">Dirt&#64;Crashr.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It's must been that I've always felt there were other great places to go...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;In VT?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;the world
&gt;
&gt;Vermont must be like Saslzburg without the Mozart Balls and girls in
&gt;Dirndls.

Not so much. There are several Vermonts.

Pretty.... low density... mountains... trees... rivers... drop offs

Rural VT... a place that makes you feel like Oliver Douglas... only Eb,
Mr/Mrs Ziffel, Sam Drucker, Hank Kimball and the pig are all big drinkers.

New Vermont - Liberal tie-died Birkenstock'd emote-over-think &quot;progressive&quot;
shit heads, every single one of them. Look for beater Volvos, and Suburus
with Dave Mathews bumper stickers and other &quot;clever&quot; sloganeering on the
backs of their vehicles. You could not trust one person in this group to
get the right answer in anything that involves thought or reason. Sadly
more visible in the areas we find ourselves based.

Vermont World - The Vermont created for tourists. Up to your tits in
yuppies and old people. The latest yuppie-mobiles with stuffed with people
that care about the name on the label... any label. They do what they think
they should be doing... not what they want to do. Florida plates with *old*
guys in them stopped in the middle of the street while they figure out if
they just shit in their diaper or something, slowing the world down way too
much. &quot;Fancy&quot; restaurants that never learned art is about taking away, not
adding, or that food is about flavor. Kitschy cheese, gift, crap shops. Toy
stores with too-expensive shit that is supposedly &quot;specially thought out&quot;
by some loser with a PhD/Ed (sorry for the redundancy) to make your kid
grow up to be Mozart, only more sensitive.

&quot;City Vermont&quot; - Burlington - I'm sick of typing... just think Palo Alto
when it's full of Stanford punks and triple the number of bums on the
sidewalk.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;but suddenly, tradition matters to me. At least as long as I can bring the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;KZP up with me:)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Creating a new tradition, the Bringing of the Bike?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;More like surviving the interstitial sameness between the non-flagship
&gt;&gt;moments of tradition maybe
&gt;
&gt;Maybe clinging to anything that helps survive the void, a life-raft,
&gt;is a good Tradition.

You have my list.. I'll let you draw your own conclusions. As Mar gets
older and becomes more &quot;one of us&quot;, we're able to relate on new levels. I
do miss &quot;Mar, my kid&quot; but must say I enjoy &quot;Older Mar&quot; too. We're able to
explore up there in slightly different ways now that she's older and that
brings some variety. Plus we have family with us up there and it's always
nice to see them too.

&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;we got.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;What I make is &quot;Trad-i-toon&quot; - a cartoonish subset of &quot;Trad-i-gee&quot; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;like the disappointment of mud-pies that dry out and break apart in
&gt;&gt;&gt;the heat. Ephemera.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Hardcore.
&gt;
&gt;I just ment that tradition and tragedy are linked.

Regardless... you made an impact.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;[Outdoor]
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;SERIES OF SHOTS
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;A. [Long establishing shot - low angle - b&amp;w - from your 7 oclock] You, at
&gt;&gt;age 9, kneel in the dirt of an unnamed hot dusty apocalyptic place that
&gt;&gt;would make anyone wish they were in Beirut... A little dust blowing past is
&gt;&gt;the only evidence this is a live shot and not a photo... the shot lingers
&gt;&gt;for longer than you think... time doesn't seem to matter here.
&gt;
&gt;We had a lawn...

I'm writing about Virtual Keith... I understand you didn't grow up in a
Benjamin Braddock house either, but Virtual K did.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;B. [Slow dissolve to overhead crane shot] Above young Keith (your head is
&gt;&gt;at 9 oclock in the shot)... dirty.. kneeling over something.. hidden from
&gt;&gt;the camera. A whisp of dust blows in the corner of the shot.
&gt;
&gt;Probably the red-ants. They sting and swarm you and sting s'more.

Nice touch.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;C. [Standard dissolve to low angle long shot - 1/3 the distance of shot A -
&gt;&gt;from the boy's 11 oclock] Keith's head is still down.. we can't see what
&gt;&gt;he's doing yet... if you look carefully, in the distance behind Keith, you
&gt;&gt;can see a person hanging from a rope around their neck with a toppled stool
&gt;&gt;underneath them... a one-armed Mexican with a wooden crutch and a burro
&gt;&gt;enters the shot and begins to remove the corpse's shoes... he struggles.
&gt;&gt;But the boy in the dirt is what the shot is all about.
&gt;
&gt;relocate the bullock-cart, but it's close enough

Nice... this is the kind of detail we need to get to a final draft.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;D. [Standard dissolve to reaction shot - low angle] His face in the shade
&gt;&gt;of the punishing hot sunny sky... fade in the initial tender lonely notes
&gt;&gt;of Gypsy Kings Hotel California from silence - the boy's expression is
&gt;&gt;cold.. stoic.. he is used to setbacks..
&gt;
&gt;and back-seats. From the back of the Willys I used to pretend I was a
&gt;tail-gunner, blasting away with twin-fifties at little temple-shrines
&gt;on the roadside.

Good... we can play this off against the hippy POV in the front seats. More
crushed dreams for little K.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;E. [Cut to POV shot] Young Keith watches his mud pie crumble through his
&gt;&gt;tiny, dirty fingers despite his delicate handling. His only toy is....
&gt;&gt;gone.
&gt;
&gt;Word...

Mot

&gt;
&gt;&gt;F. [Cut to closeup of young Keith] His eyes reveals the &quot;hope of the mud
&gt;&gt;pie&quot; has been crushingly transformed into the &quot;cold reality of
&gt;&gt;hopelessness&quot; that will always be his life... an Iron Eyes Cody type tear
&gt;&gt;slowly washing it's way down through the layers of dirt on your cheek.. a
&gt;&gt;little pink skin is the only color in the shot. This shot also lingers...
&gt;&gt;like his pain.. until the first pause in HC. One beat after the pause in
&gt;&gt;the music hits, his head snaps to the side and his eyes get HUGE... he
&gt;&gt;begins a manic dive to the side for his life!
&gt;
&gt;Like when my brother smashed my head on the concrete and broke my
&gt;tooth?

You had concrete? I'm sorry... we can't use that. Could it be a rock?

&gt;
&gt;&gt;G. [Cut back to 3/4 low angle shot] as Keith is half way thru his dive -
&gt;&gt;you see the side of a shiny black limo only from the door handles to just
&gt;&gt;below the hub cap bottoms careen through where he and his mud pie had been
&gt;&gt;saying goodbye to each other. Dust explodes in the air... The first heavy
&gt;&gt;beat that precedes the straining vocal marks entry of the limo into the
&gt;&gt;shot. You see the young boy settling onto his ass and looking at what past
&gt;&gt;trying to make sense of it, but quickly you cut to...
&gt;
&gt;A Hindustan Standard, they come in one color, Black. But that's not
&gt;one.
&gt;<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422</a>
&gt;

I think it ads to the more-than-anachronistic fantasy effect I'm looking
for. That talk at a normal voice level thing from home plate to the left
field corn a la Field of Dreams, only no baseball, in a made-up place that
is a cross between 1800's Mexico (or today:), India and the Bay Area. So
it's really better if it is a Town Car.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;H. [Cut to interior shot of back seat of limo] A happy young Mike, clean
&gt;&gt;and dressed smartly is reading Yachting magazine. Through the rear window,
&gt;&gt;you can see the limo is slowing and turning into someplace as young Keith
&gt;&gt;gets smaller in the background. As the limo turns more, you also glimpse
&gt;&gt;the Mexican &quot;kneeling&quot;/balancing over the burro, apparently dead from heat
&gt;&gt;stroke. Whatever...
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425</a>
&gt;
&gt;It was a bullock-cart driver and a cobra bit him.

They load but they don't play.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;I. [Cut to establishing shot of dusty gas station] - the limo pulls in.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;END SERIES OF SHOTS
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;[High shot through the back side window of the limo] Young Keith can seen
&gt;&gt;sitting in a swirling cloud of dust with Beirut behind him... Mike looks
&gt;&gt;out the window. They seem to know each other already. Keith picks himself
&gt;&gt;up and approach the limo window and stand there a moment as Mike looks over
&gt;&gt;the dirty boy outside his door. The window lowers......
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mike: &quot;You want to carry my brief case?&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Keith: &quot;Sure.&quot;
&gt;
&gt;Just as long as it's not a Camelbak.

I'll have to dig out my old Tumi for IMDB authenticity.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mike: &quot;Cool&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;This is how we got here... right? :)
&gt;
&gt;Only because I figured there's ordnance in the briefcase.
&gt;I always keep a gun in mine anyhow. Mauser HSc.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;We don't have the storage for tradition, no big closets or attics as
&gt;&gt;&gt;is traditionally the location. I keep getting rid of it and throwing
&gt;&gt;&gt;more junk in the dumpster - when new stuff comes in old stuff goes
&gt;&gt;&gt;out.
&gt;&gt;&gt;Did you go to your 30th Class Reunion? Me neither. Either of them.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;I only went to the first two and the second, only because I was talked into
&gt;&gt;it. I'm done with that. One guy I used to play hockey with is now the
&gt;&gt;&quot;assistant manager&quot; of a second hand porn shop. How the HELL do you make
&gt;&gt;him feel good if you end up talking? Screw it.
&gt;
&gt;Why make him feel good? That's not what I learned it's about, it's
&gt;about rubbing his face in it. Use the briefcase next time.

It makes me feel crappy to take an easy win. Afterwards. Why waste the
beats.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;My folks are coming back from Halifax tonight, my dad has probably
&gt;&gt;&gt;finished making up a pretend tradition of being a Huguenot, that I'm
&gt;&gt;&gt;going to have to throw in the dumpster.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;The process is your tradition. Embrace it.
&gt;
&gt; Film you process, with black and white you wash off the dead
&gt;silver-halides and keep the live ones. With color it's blix - bleach
&gt;and fix.

This is good feedback. I was worried making Mexican one-legged was too much
but it gives us choices. He could take the wrong shoe, or maybe just the
act of only taking one is enough. Sets up the idea that another one-legged
Mexican enters the back story and is somehow deemed &quot;fortunate&quot; that he
lost the other leg.. so he can use the other shoe. I need to work on this a
little more.

Mike


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#20: Re: Mike W. Corner

Posted on 2006-07-23 23:15:05 by DirtCrashr

&gt;Not so much. There are several Vermonts.
&gt;
&gt;Pretty.... low density... mountains... trees... rivers... drop offs
&gt;
&gt;Rural VT... a place that makes you feel like Oliver Douglas... only Eb,
&gt;Mr/Mrs Ziffel, Sam Drucker, Hank Kimball and the pig are all big drinkers.
&gt;
&gt;New Vermont - Liberal tie-died Birkenstock'd emote-over-think &quot;progressive&quot;
&lt;snip&gt;

&gt;Vermont World - The Vermont created for tourists. Up to your tits in
&gt;yuppies and old people. The latest yuppie-mobiles with stuffed with people
&lt;snip&gt;

&gt;&quot;City Vermont&quot; - Burlington - I'm sick of typing... just think Palo Alto
&gt;when it's full of Stanford punks and triple the number of bums on the
&gt;sidewalk.

Wow, that's an exceedingly target-rich environment!! We can hire a
kid to kneel behind them and you push. I'll take pictures.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;They that's your tradition.. making tradition:) Enjoy it. We all got what
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;we got.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;What I make is &quot;Trad-i-toon&quot; - a cartoonish subset of &quot;Trad-i-gee&quot; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;like the disappointment of mud-pies that dry out and break apart in
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;the heat. Ephemera.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Hardcore.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;I just ment that tradition and tragedy are linked.
&gt;
&gt;Regardless... you made an impact.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;[Outdoor]
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;SERIES OF SHOTS
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;A. [Long establishing shot - low angle - b&amp;w - from your 7 oclock] You, at
&gt;&gt;&gt;age 9, kneel in the dirt of an unnamed hot dusty apocalyptic place that
&gt;&gt;&gt;would make anyone wish they were in Beirut... A little dust blowing past is
&gt;&gt;&gt;the only evidence this is a live shot and not a photo... the shot lingers
&gt;&gt;&gt;for longer than you think... time doesn't seem to matter here.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;We had a lawn...
&gt;
&gt;I'm writing about Virtual Keith... I understand you didn't grow up in a
&gt;Benjamin Braddock house either, but Virtual K did.

Oh yeh, I keep forgetting and inserting myself.

&gt;&gt;&gt;B. [Slow dissolve to overhead crane shot] Above young Keith (your head is
&gt;&gt;&gt;at 9 oclock in the shot)... dirty.. kneeling over something.. hidden from
&gt;&gt;&gt;the camera. A whisp of dust blows in the corner of the shot.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Probably the red-ants. They sting and swarm you and sting s'more.
&gt;
&gt;Nice touch.

They hurt like a baitch too.

&gt;&gt;&gt;C. [Standard dissolve to low angle long shot - 1/3 the distance of shot A -
&gt;&gt;&gt;from the boy's 11 oclock] Keith's head is still down.. we can't see what
&gt;&gt;&gt;he's doing yet... if you look carefully, in the distance behind Keith, you
&gt;&gt;&gt;can see a person hanging from a rope around their neck with a toppled stool
&gt;&gt;&gt;underneath them... a one-armed Mexican with a wooden crutch and a burro
&gt;&gt;&gt;enters the shot and begins to remove the corpse's shoes... he struggles.
&gt;&gt;&gt;But the boy in the dirt is what the shot is all about.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;relocate the bullock-cart, but it's close enough
&gt;
&gt;Nice... this is the kind of detail we need to get to a final draft.

There's always a cart with a cow attached to it, sometimes piled high
with dried cow-pies for kitchen fuel.

&gt;&gt;&gt;D. [Standard dissolve to reaction shot - low angle] His face in the shade
&gt;&gt;&gt;of the punishing hot sunny sky... fade in the initial tender lonely notes
&gt;&gt;&gt;of Gypsy Kings Hotel California from silence - the boy's expression is
&gt;&gt;&gt;cold.. stoic.. he is used to setbacks..
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;and back-seats. From the back of the Willys I used to pretend I was a
&gt;&gt;tail-gunner, blasting away with twin-fifties at little temple-shrines
&gt;&gt;on the roadside.
&gt;
&gt;Good... we can play this off against the hippy POV in the front seats. More
&gt;crushed dreams for little K.

No, no no, the boy is stoic, it's hot but he's reloading a fresh belt
in Ma Deuce.

&gt;&gt;&gt;E. [Cut to POV shot] Young Keith watches his mud pie crumble through his
&gt;&gt;&gt;tiny, dirty fingers despite his delicate handling. His only toy is....
&gt;&gt;&gt;gone.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Word...
&gt;
&gt;Mot
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;F. [Cut to closeup of young Keith] His eyes reveals the &quot;hope of the mud
&gt;&gt;&gt;pie&quot; has been crushingly transformed into the &quot;cold reality of
&gt;&gt;&gt;hopelessness&quot; that will always be his life... an Iron Eyes Cody type tear
&gt;&gt;&gt;slowly washing it's way down through the layers of dirt on your cheek.. a
&gt;&gt;&gt;little pink skin is the only color in the shot. This shot also lingers...
&gt;&gt;&gt;like his pain.. until the first pause in HC. One beat after the pause in
&gt;&gt;&gt;the music hits, his head snaps to the side and his eyes get HUGE... he
&gt;&gt;&gt;begins a manic dive to the side for his life!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Like when my brother smashed my head on the concrete and broke my
&gt;&gt;tooth?
&gt;
&gt;You had concrete? I'm sorry... we can't use that. Could it be a rock?

It was the upstairs veranda, it wrapped around three sides of the
house.
<a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Spodeley/India/Bungalow479.jpg" target="_blank"> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Spodeley/India/Bungal ow479.jpg</a>



&gt;&gt;&gt;G. [Cut back to 3/4 low angle shot] as Keith is half way thru his dive -
&gt;&gt;&gt;you see the side of a shiny black limo only from the door handles to just
&gt;&gt;&gt;below the hub cap bottoms careen through where he and his mud pie had been
&gt;&gt;&gt;saying goodbye to each other. Dust explodes in the air... The first heavy
&gt;&gt;&gt;beat that precedes the straining vocal marks entry of the limo into the
&gt;&gt;&gt;shot. You see the young boy settling onto his ass and looking at what past
&gt;&gt;&gt;trying to make sense of it, but quickly you cut to...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;A Hindustan Standard, they come in one color, Black. But that's not
&gt;&gt;one.
&gt;&gt;<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27422</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;I think it ads to the more-than-anachronistic fantasy effect I'm looking
&gt;for. That talk at a normal voice level thing from home plate to the left
&gt;field corn a la Field of Dreams, only no baseball, in a made-up place that
&gt;is a cross between 1800's Mexico (or today:), India and the Bay Area. So
&gt;it's really better if it is a Town Car.

Time-switching then...

&gt;&gt;&gt;H. [Cut to interior shot of back seat of limo] A happy young Mike, clean
&gt;&gt;&gt;and dressed smartly is reading Yachting magazine. Through the rear window,
&gt;&gt;&gt;you can see the limo is slowing and turning into someplace as young Keith
&gt;&gt;&gt;gets smaller in the background. As the limo turns more, you also glimpse
&gt;&gt;&gt;the Mexican &quot;kneeling&quot;/balancing over the burro, apparently dead from heat
&gt;&gt;&gt;stroke. Whatever...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425" target="_blank">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=27425</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;It was a bullock-cart driver and a cobra bit him.
&gt;
&gt;They load but they don't play.

It was a car driving down a percipitous hill. Because of the interior
curtains, the Boy Mike couldn't see the sheer cliffs...

&gt;&gt;&gt;I. [Cut to establishing shot of dusty gas station] - the limo pulls in.

&lt;snippp&gt;

&gt;&gt;Why make him feel good? That's not what I learned it's about, it's
&gt;&gt;about rubbing his face in it. Use the briefcase next time.
&gt;
&gt;It makes me feel crappy to take an easy win. Afterwards. Why waste the
&gt;beats.

Remembering the reunions I went to, nobody particularly tried to make
me feel good about anything so I'm not seeing the needfulness here.

You won and got your trophy just thinking about being nice, or less
mean, or something to do with kindness...

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;My folks are coming back from Halifax tonight, my dad has probably
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;finished making up a pretend tradition of being a Huguenot, that I'm
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;going to have to throw in the dumpster.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;The process is your tradition. Embrace it.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Film you process, with black and white you wash off the dead
&gt;&gt;silver-halides and keep the live ones. With color it's blix - bleach
&gt;&gt;and fix.
&gt;
&gt;This is good feedback. I was worried making Mexican one-legged was too much
&gt;but it gives us choices. He could take the wrong shoe, or maybe just the
&gt;act of only taking one is enough. Sets up the idea that another one-legged
&gt;Mexican enters the back story and is somehow deemed &quot;fortunate&quot; that he
&gt;lost the other leg.. so he can use the other shoe. I need to work on this a
&gt;little more.

Or he could have a sub-tropical disease that has mauled his body and
left one leg like a match-stick and the other swollen-gigantic with
elephantiasis, fingers ravaged by leprosy (missing a few) and one eye
that wanders around in an ellipsis. Saw that shit all the time.

&gt;Mike

HTH.

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