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#1: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 19:01:32 by Doug Rogers

Some of you HED heads have probably already seen this but I am just getting
to December so it's new. Link originally provided by the one and only
Skiv...

<a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>

Anyone tried this? Grooving you head(s) that is?
--
Later,
D-Rog &lt;all puns intended&gt;
'98 FLHRCI - &quot;Stella&quot;
<a href="http://www.d-rog.net/" target="_blank">http://www.d-rog.net/</a>

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#2: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:27:15 by Big Ben

D-Rog wrote:
&gt; Some of you HED heads have probably already seen this but I am just getting
&gt; to December so it's new. Link originally provided by the one and only
&gt; Skiv...
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>
&gt;

ya know....I think I might just give that a go.....on the supercharged
mini-bike!....well, it aint supercharged yet.....and since I'm gonna
pull the head off, I may as well re-ring that fucker &lt;G&gt;
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the &quot;unlimited possibilities&quot; guy

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#3: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:31:35 by Doug Rogers

Big Ben sezz:
&gt; D-Rog wrote:
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; ya know....I think I might just give that a go.....on the supercharged
&gt; mini-bike!....well, it aint supercharged yet.....and since I'm gonna
&gt; pull the head off, I may as well re-ring that fucker &lt;G&gt;

I somehow doubt that a mini-bike type engine is going to have the
compression that this mod calls for. Stranger things have been done
though...
--
Later,
D-Rog
'98 FLHRCI - &quot;Stella&quot;
<a href="http://www.d-rog.net/" target="_blank">http://www.d-rog.net/</a>

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#4: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:35:55 by Big Ben

D-Rog wrote:
&gt; Some of you HED heads have probably already seen this but I am just getting
&gt; to December so it's new. Link originally provided by the one and only
&gt; Skiv...
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>
&gt;

ya know....I think I might just give that a go.....on the supercharged
mini-bike!....well, it aint supercharged yet.....and since I'm gonna
pull the head off, I may as well re-ring that fucker &lt;G&gt;
--
Big Ben
the &quot;unlimited possibilities&quot; guy

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#5: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 20:44:34 by Jinks

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:01:32 GMT, &quot;D-Rog&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:d-rog&#64;jupiterlink.com" target="_blank">d-rog&#64;jupiterlink.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;Some of you HED heads have probably already seen this but I am just getting
&gt;to December so it's new. Link originally provided by the one and only
&gt;Skiv...
&gt;
&gt;<a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>
&gt;
&gt;Anyone tried this? Grooving you head(s) that is?

Nah! Tends to blow the spark out..............

Actually, it looks interesting. If you try it, let us know
what works &amp; what don't.


Jinks ('86fxrs,'02 K1200LT,'95 Triumph Sprint)
#64

Remember, &quot;No good deed goes unpunished&quot;

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#6: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 21:02:05 by Big Ben

D-Rog wrote:

&gt; I somehow doubt that a mini-bike type engine is going to have the
&gt; compression that this mod calls for. Stranger things have been done
&gt; though...
&gt;

well....the page 'did' mention side valves...well, that ol' Tecumseh
motor aint nothin' but a sidevalve/flathead design.
If I read things right, the groove(s) makes the fuel/air mix swirl
around better and kinda aim the flow at the sparky plug. As for the
compression, I think I gotta flat piece o' glass here somewhere, that
and some sandpaper will increase my compression a little bit....no it
aint precision milling, but it aint really a precision motor now is it?
&lt;G&gt; (just have to make sure the valves don't hit the head when I'm
done)...ohh, valves...I better check those while I'm in there....

--
Big Ben
the &quot;sure am making a lotta work for myself&quot; guy

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#7: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-01-31 21:11:18 by Doug Rogers

Jinks sezz:
&gt; &quot;D-Rog&quot; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Some of you HED heads have probably already seen this but I am just
&gt;&gt; getting to December so it's new. Link originally provided by the
&gt;&gt; one and only Skiv...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://somender-singh.com/" target="_blank">http://somender-singh.com/</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyone tried this? Grooving you head(s) that is?
&gt;
&gt; Actually, it looks interesting. If you try it, let us know
&gt; what works &amp; what don't.

I don't have anything to try it on at the moment - or do I?!?! I bought a
set of used heads from Topp on the EKII auction a while back...HMMMM. This
might be some good fun.

Only issue I see is that I was planning to R&amp;R them and do a mild port job
(mostly just cleaning the castings) before install. If I baseline them with
stock vs. this mod, *and* the mild port, I blow the experiment. Sounds like
a likely project for next winter now anyways though. This one is going to
be over soon &lt;the sound of a fist violently thumping a wooden object&gt;.
--
Later,
D-Rog
'98 FLHRCI - &quot;Stella&quot;
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#8: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-02-01 02:58:02 by Greg O

&quot;Big Ben&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:XNavySnipe79FLH&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">XNavySnipe79FLH&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:1138737725.324460.269070&#64;g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1138737725.324460.269070&#64;g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt;
&gt; D-Rog wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I somehow doubt that a mini-bike type engine is going to have the
&gt;&gt; compression that this mod calls for. Stranger things have been done
&gt;&gt; though...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; well....the page 'did' mention side valves...well, that ol' Tecumseh
&gt; motor aint nothin' but a sidevalve/flathead design.
&gt; If I read things right, the groove(s) makes the fuel/air mix swirl
&gt; around better and kinda aim the flow at the sparky plug. As for the
&gt; compression, I think I gotta flat piece o' glass here somewhere, that
&gt; and some sandpaper will increase my compression a little bit....no it
&gt; aint precision milling, but it aint really a precision motor now is it?
&gt; &lt;G&gt; (just have to make sure the valves don't hit the head when I'm
&gt; done)...ohh, valves...I better check those while I'm in there....
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Big Ben
&gt; the &quot;sure am making a lotta work for myself&quot; guy
&gt;

If'n you get that head flat enough, they will run with no gasket and just a
little gasket goo such as high temp silicone. You don't need to worry about
valve to head clearance either, there is a bunch of it, that is unless you
start milling of a bunch of the head!
I have a 5 HP B&amp;S out in the garage that I had on a go-cart a few years
back. I milled a bunch off the head, something like .100&quot;, ran a stock
gasket, a Tillotson carb, a 3 HP B&amp;S flywheel with no key so I could advance
the timing about 1/2 the keyway. Made an adapter to lower the coil down to
the smaller flywheel. Damn near needed two hands to pull start it but that
little sucker would haul ass! 0-40 MPH in 50 feet or so. All stock
internals, but I polished the rod thinking it would help hold it together
better. Never did blow it up!

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PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

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#9: Re: Head Job

Posted on 2006-02-02 05:35:05 by Big Ben

Greg O wrote:
&gt; If'n you get that head flat enough, they will run with no gasket and just a
&gt; little gasket goo such as high temp silicone. You don't need to worry about
&gt; valve to head clearance either, there is a bunch of it, that is unless you
&gt; start milling of a bunch of the head!
&gt; I have a 5 HP B&amp;S out in the garage that I had on a go-cart a few years
&gt; back. I milled a bunch off the head, something like .100&quot;, ran a stock
&gt; gasket, a Tillotson carb, a 3 HP B&amp;S flywheel with no key so I could advance
&gt; the timing about 1/2 the keyway. Made an adapter to lower the coil down to
&gt; the smaller flywheel. Damn near needed two hands to pull start it but that
&gt; little sucker would haul ass! 0-40 MPH in 50 feet or so. All stock
&gt; internals, but I polished the rod thinking it would help hold it together
&gt; better. Never did blow it up!
&gt;

Holy shit....
maybe I better just bolt that fucker together as is so the daughter can
run it around the field &lt;G&gt; and then get my ass workin' on the Shovel!

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Big Ben
the &quot;you still gonna make it on Saturday?&quot; guy

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