| Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797695] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 01:58 |
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"The rigorous studies clearly show red-light cameras don't work," said
lead author Barbara Langland-Orban, professor and chair of health
policy and management at the USF College of Public Health. "Instead,
they increase crashes and injuries as drivers attempt to abruptly stop
at camera intersections. If used in Florida, cameras could potentially
create even worse outcomes due to the state's high percent of elderly
who are more likely to be injured or killed when a crash occurs."
http://www.physorg.com/news124467295.html
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797775 ] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 18:27 |
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scudetto_001 [at] yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
3e5de960833a [at] b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> "The rigorous studies clearly show red-light cameras don't work," said
> lead author Barbara Langland-Orban, professor and chair of health
> policy and management at the USF College of Public Health. "Instead,
> they increase crashes and injuries as drivers attempt to abruptly stop
> at camera intersections. If used in Florida, cameras could potentially
> create even worse outcomes due to the state's high percent of elderly
> who are more likely to be injured or killed when a crash occurs."
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> http://www.physorg.com/news124467295.html
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.. Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
let it continue. I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
yellow. The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
Keep the cameras and combine them with much more severe penalties. I don't
believe in coddling criminals.
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797792 ] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 20:34 |
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Around Mar 12, 10:27 am, Aunt Judy (AKA Pride of Diarrhea, AKA
"Saddam") <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote: wrote:
> scudetto_... [at] yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
> 3e5de9608... [at] b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> > "The rigorous studies clearly show red-light cameras don't work," said
> > lead author Barbara Langland-Orban, professor and chair of health
> > policy and management at the USF College of Public Health. "Instead,
> > they increase crashes and injuries as drivers attempt to abruptly stop
> > at camera intersections. If used in Florida, cameras could potentially
> > create even worse outcomes due to the state's high percent of elderly
> > who are more likely to be injured or killed when a crash occurs."
>
> >http://www.physorg.com/news124467295.html
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> . Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
> let it continue.
Nobody said "let it continue".
> I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
> yellow.
A) I'm surprised, given your bad brakes and unsafe tires...
B) In most cases, you shouldn't *have* to stop for a yellow light.
> The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
The problem is people who DWO (drive while oblivious) and/or bad light
timing, problems which a camera and draconian fines can do nothing to
fix.
--
~/Garth
"I am patient with stupidity
but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell
(Ventis secundis, tene cursum.)
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797805 ] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 21:30 |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:34:45 -0700 (PDT), Garth Almgren
<nospam [at] v6stang.com> wrote:
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>The problem is people who DWO (drive while oblivious) and/or bad light
>timing, problems which a camera and draconian fines can do nothing to
>fix.
Actually, if you ask me, the bad light timings are used to facilitate
the cameras and fines in raking in as much revenue as possible for the
authorityes that use the cameras and the private companies that run
the cameras.
--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater
(gramatical errors left as is):
"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi. Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "
--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296riemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797818 ] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 22:37 |
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On Mar 12, 4:30 pm, necromancer
<55_sux [at] worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
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> Actually, if you ask me, the bad light timings are used to facilitate
> the cameras and fines in raking in as much revenue as possible for the
> authorityes that use the cameras and the private companies that run
> the cameras.
Nothing gets by you, Shakespeare.
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- gpsman
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797819 ] |
Wed, 12 March 2008 22:40 |
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gpsman wrote:
> On Mar 12, 4:30 pm, necromancer
> <55_sux [at] worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
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>>Actually, if you ask me, the bad light timings are used to facilitate
>>the cameras and fines in raking in as much revenue as possible for the
>>authorityes that use the cameras and the private companies that run
>>the cameras.
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> Nothing gets by you, Shakespeare.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here; I didn't see anything
factually questionable in his post.
nate
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel
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| Re: Study: Red Light Cameras Make the Roads MORE Dangerous [message #797837 ] |
Thu, 13 March 2008 00:08 |
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In article <Xns9A5F74A373314riemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70>,
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> scudetto_001 [at] yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
> 3e5de960833a [at] b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> > "The rigorous studies clearly show red-light cameras don't work," said
> > lead author Barbara Langland-Orban, professor and chair of health
> > policy and management at the USF College of Public Health. "Instead,
> > they increase crashes and injuries as drivers attempt to abruptly stop
> > at camera intersections. If used in Florida, cameras could potentially
> > create even worse outcomes due to the state's high percent of elderly
> > who are more likely to be injured or killed when a crash occurs."
> >
> >
> > http://www.physorg.com/news124467295.html
> >
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> Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts
> like you say let it continue.
No, he said that cameras make the problem worse. Weren't you paying
attention?
> Keep the cameras and combine them with much more severe penalties.
> I don't believe in coddling criminals.
The irony of your position is that by using the cameras, states have to
downgrade the offense of running a light from a criminal one (where the
state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the actual PERSON was
offender) to a non-criminal administrative violation (where the state
only has to show that the registered owner's vehicle ran the light).
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