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| Re: Signal timing foiled by inattentive drivers [message #797069] |
Tue, 04 March 2008 22:40 |
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On Mar 4, 4:19 pm, gpsman <gps... [at] driversmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 2:59 pm, "DanK... [at] gmail.com" <DanK... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 4, 1:06 pm, gpsman <gps... [at] driversmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 4, 11:02 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:14:38 -0500, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net>
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> > > > >Scott in SoCal wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:42:12 -0800 (PST), Ad absurdum per aspera
> > > > > > <jtc... [at] california.com> wrote:
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> > > > >>>I was taught that smoothly, continuously flowing traffic is the
> > > > >>>collectively fastest and my job is to avoid fouling it up by either
> > > > >>>going too slowly *or* introducing turbulence and resistance by working
> > > > >>>it too hard.
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> > > > >> Was your teacher's name "Claybrook," by any chance?
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> > > > >I'm finding it hard to argue with his paragraph, sometimes it really
> > > > >does pay to go slow to go fast.
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> > > > Yeah, and sometimes man bites dog.
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> > > > The "Sloth Coaster" philosophy is, more often than not, a
> > > > self-fulfilling prophecy, especially when traffic lights are
> > > > controlled by sensors instead of timers.
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> > > Uh huh...
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> > > > >I don't know how many times I'll
> > > > >approach a red light and simply lift off as soon as I see it's red.
> > > > >Someone behind me will become impatient, pass me, and end up stopped at
> > > > >the red light... which turns green 20 yards before I hit the stop line,
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> > > > First of all, I know you're an intelligent person, and you no doubt
> > > > apply the coasting strategy intelligently. Most Sloth Coaster drivers
> > > > do not. They end up MISSING green lights and waiting longer at red
> > > > lights because they coast slowly up to the intersection; this results
> > > > in a delay when tripping the sensor, which in the case of a red light
> > > > results in a delay in getting the green which is the whole reason they
> > > > are coasting in the first place.
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> > > > Another reason why someone might "race" up to the red light is to get
> > > > into a better position to escape the Phalanx of Sloth on the next
> > > > green. I won't hesitate to pass someone going slowly even if the light
> > > > is red, because I know that after the light turns green that guy will
> > > > STILL be driving slowly, and I prefer not to be stuck behind him.
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> > > Uh huh.
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> > > So, you trip the light for us. And there is no shortage of drivers of
> > > your ilk.
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> > > > Let me close with a little story I posted almost two years ago which
> > > > is also relevant to the current thread:
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> > > > So as I was driving to work today, I spotted a co-worker of mine who
> > > > takes a similar route as I do. In fact, from the time I spotted him
> > > > until we each arrived at the office our routes were identical (total
> > > > distance about 4.2 miles, according to Microsoft MapPoint). He's an
> > > > older gentleman and tends to drive a bit on the Slothy side; for
> > > > example, when I first noticed his SUV, I was behind him in traffic; a
> > > > car ahead of him was slowing down to make a turn, so he was doing
> > > > about SL - 20. Once the turning car got out of his way, he was very
> > > > lackadasical about speeding back up again, which is how I caught up to
> > > > him and passed him. After a couple of blocks, he got trapped at a red
> > > > light which I had long since sailed through; I lost sight of him at
> > > > that point. After I arrived at the office, I was at my desk for a good
> > > > 7 minutes before he even pulled into the parking lot.
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> > > You can't see the vehicles in the parking lot from your desk.
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> > How in the hell would you know a thing like that?
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> Scott's desk is not on the first floor.
Neither are any of the ones I refer to below. If you are familiar
with Scotts workplace and the location of his desk and proximity to
windows, please say so. If that's the case I stand corrected, and you
would have my apology. However, ISTM that you're just making wild,
unsupported assumptions. You do this often, so it seems likely.
> > 5 of the 8 desks in
> > use at the building I work in offer a view of the parking lot. 2 more
> > can see the driveway to the lot, and as such can still see when the
> > cars arrive. The last can see the parking lot on a nice day if the
> > door is open.
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> And... that's relevant... to what...?
Unless you can verify being familiar with where Scott works, it's an
example that many people CAN see the parking lot from their desk.
> > > > So the next time some Sloth gives you a smug laugh and tells you that
> > > > driving alertly and assertively doesn't get you to your destination
> > > > any faster, you can fire off a deep belly-laugh in return knowing the
> > > > sanctimonious bastard is completely full of shit. :)
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> > > Lol. So, in the mind of a college graduate and "engineer", a single
> > > (either entirely invented or greatly exaggerated) example is adequate
> > > to form such a conclusion...?
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> > > Don't you ever tire of posting additional evidence that you're an
> > > idiot?
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> > One may ask the same of you.
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> Oh. So you agree that Scott's single anecdotal example sufficiently
> supports his conclusion...?!
No, not at all. I am just point out what appears to be a wild and
unsupported assertion on your part, which is all to common.
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