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| WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796449] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 20:38 |
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Hi VIatologists,
In an event that comes once in a leap year, the Worldwide Highway
Library presents new 360-degree captures from the San Francisco suburb
of Hayward:
http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/2902/
Three new captures are available today, all denoted in red.
California Route 92 enjoys a cross-bay routing that connects Hayward
with the San Francisco peninsula and Pacific ocean. Its WHL-360
capture gives you a glimpse of westbound traffic en route to
Interstate 880.
California Route 185 is the surface-level backbone of the East Bay,
adjoining Hayward, San Lorenzo, San Leandro and Oakland.
California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
You've heard of WHL-360 technology. So what is it? It's a special
algorithm that allows you to, from one fixed location, view a highway
from *any* angle. Front, side and rear! WHL-360 uses a special
proprietary
engine in an Apple Quicktime wrapper.
Enjoy!
Cheers,
Carl Rogers
"Adding human experience to transportology"
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796457 ] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 21:03 |
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On Feb 29, 2:38=A0pm, Carl Rogers <carl-... [at] calrog.com> wrote:
> Hi VIatologists,
>
> In an event that comes once in a leap year, the Worldwide Highway
> Library presents new 360-degree captures from the San Francisco suburb
> of Hayward:
>
> http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/2902/
>
> Three new captures are available today, all denoted in red.
>
> California Route 92 enjoys a cross-bay routing that connects Hayward
> with the San Francisco peninsula and Pacific ocean. =A0Its WHL-360
> capture gives you a glimpse of westbound traffic en route to
> Interstate 880.
>
> California Route 185 is the surface-level backbone of the East Bay,
> adjoining Hayward, San Lorenzo, San Leandro and Oakland.
>
> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
> Fremont. =A0The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
>
> You've heard of WHL-360 technology. =A0So what is it? =A0It's a special
> algorithm that allows you to, from one fixed location, view a highway
> from *any* angle. =A0Front, side and rear! WHL-360 uses a special
> proprietary
> engine in an Apple Quicktime wrapper.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Rogers
> "Adding human experience to transportology"
> ********
> Calrog.com,http://www.calrog.com:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development,
> International Transportation Research, and Interpersonal Psychology.
> Has served your home country and ninety-nine of its worldwide
> neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published
> works.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> MySpace: =A0http://www.myspace.com/calrog
> ********
The pictures are too dark and grainy.
Took me a bit to actually find them. Clicked on the links on the
update bar and it wasn't evident what exactly to do next.
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796458 ] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 21:15 |
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), Rothman <dnrothx [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
<replying to krl without replying to krl>
>> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
>> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
>> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
>> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
"fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
>> You've heard of WHL-360 technology. So what is it? It's a special
>> algorithm that allows you to, from one fixed location, view a highway
>> from *any* angle. Front, side and rear! WHL-360 uses a special
>> proprietary
>> engine in an Apple Quicktime wrapper.
Most people call those panoramas - just that better source pics are
usually used and apple quicktime is not required.
</replying to krl without replying to krl>
>The pictures are too dark and grainy.
See the .sig.
>Took me a bit to actually find them. Clicked on the links on the
>update bar and it wasn't evident what exactly to do next.
surprise.... SURprise.... SURPRISE!!!!!
C orny
A lmanac of
L eftcoast
R oads
O btuse &
G rainy
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796478 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 00:29 |
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necromancer <55_sux [at] worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> writes:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), Rothman <dnrothx [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> <replying to krl without replying to krl>
>
> >> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
> >> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
> >> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
> >> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
>
> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
> bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
> designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
> better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
> "fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
There wasn't an available interstate number. All the spurs off I-80
are used, except 180 which is a major state route elsewhere in
California and 480 which was going to be the route number for the
Embarcadero Freeway in San Francisco.
So, when that portion of S.R. 238 was made an interstate, it kept its
old state route number as an interstate number.
-- Patrick
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796536 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 04:54 |
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796537 ] |
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796538 ] |
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796557 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 07:15 |
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Around 2/29/2008 11:38 AM, Carl Rogers wrote:
> In an event that comes once in a leap year,
Thank God.
> the Worldwide Highway
> Library presents new 360-degree captures from the San Francisco suburb
> of Hayward:
I don't think "capture" is a strong enough word...
More like abducted at gunpoint, beaten into blurry incoherence, and
locked in moldy catacombs for all eternity.
--
~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant."
--H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796590 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 19:05 |
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kkt wrote:
> necromancer writes:
>
>> Rothman wrote:
>>
>> >> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
>> >> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
>> >> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
>> >> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
>>
>> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
>> bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
>> designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
>> better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
>> "fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
>
> There wasn't an available interstate number.
Yes there was - as a matter of fact, it was called I-780 for a time,
before they moved it to the Vallejo-Benecia area. (Changing numbers
is nothing new - remember when I-880 was in Sacramento?)
>All the spurs off I-80 are used, except 180 which is a major state
>route elsewhere in California and 480 which was going to be the route
>number for the Embarcadero Freeway in San Francisco.
I-180 was going to be the route number for what is now the Richmond
Parkway. (I keep hearing rumors that they're going to turn it into a
freeway one day, but there's so much development at the eastern end
that I don't see how it's possible.
-- Don
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796635 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 01:16 |
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Don Del Grande <del_grande_news [at] earthlink.net> writes:
> kkt wrote:
>
> > necromancer writes:
> >
> >> Rothman wrote:
> >>
> >> >> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
> >> >> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
> >> >> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
> >> >> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
> >>
> >> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
> >> bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
> >> designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
> >> better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
> >> "fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
> >
> > There wasn't an available interstate number.
>
> Yes there was - as a matter of fact, it was called I-780 for a time,
> before they moved it to the Vallejo-Benecia area.
Hm, I don't remember when it was called 780.
> (Changing numbers
> is nothing new - remember when I-880 was in Sacramento?)
I do remember that. I think I have an old map that shows it, too.
> >All the spurs off I-80 are used, except 180 which is a major state
> >route elsewhere in California and 480 which was going to be the route
> >number for the Embarcadero Freeway in San Francisco.
>
> I-180 was going to be the route number for what is now the Richmond
> Parkway.
Maybe, but they'd have to renumber the existing SR 180 first.
> (I keep hearing rumors that they're going to turn it into a
> freeway one day, but there's so much development at the eastern end
> that I don't see how it's possible.
The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
have to be done besides changing signs.
-- Patrick
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796664 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 05:02 |
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kkt wrote:
> Don Del Grande (the guy who removes as many E-mail addresses from
> replies as he can to cut down on junk E-mails) writes:
>
>> kkt wrote:
>>
>> > necromancer writes:
>> >
>> >> Rothman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
>> >> >> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
>> >> >> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
>> >> >> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
>> >>
>> >> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
>> >> bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
>> >> designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
>> >> better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
>> >> "fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
>> >
>> > There wasn't an available interstate number.
>>
>> Yes there was - as a matter of fact, it was called I-780 for a time,
>> before they moved it to the Vallejo-Benecia area.
>
>Hm, I don't remember when it was called 780.
I want to say sometime around 1980 - I also remember when it was
simultaneously signed I-780 and I-238, so calling it just I-238 may
have been the plan the whole time.
>> (Changing numbers
>> is nothing new - remember when I-880 was in Sacramento?)
>
>I do remember that. I think I have an old map that shows it, too.
What was I-880 is now "regular" I-80 (the freeway that goes by ARCO
Arena and Fry's Electronics), and what was I-80 is now "business" I-80
(with the green interstate shields). I think the change came around
1985.
>The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
>the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
>U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
>have to be done besides changing signs.
The problem is, there would be a disconnect - all of the roads between
the Golden Gate Bridge (which itself is an "undivided highway", and
it's going to stay that way unless somebody decides on a barrier that
can be moved so you can change the direction of a lane for the commute
periods) and the existing freeways have intersections, and I very
seriously doubt anybody is going to build any sort of freeway
connecting the GGB to any existing freeway any time soon.
-- Don
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796666 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 06:03 |
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Somebody wrote:
>>> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
>>> bypasses something?
http://www.gbcnet.com/roads/I-238/
I have no idea what the authority level of that site is.
But I lived in the Bay Area when that little piece of freeway was
labeled I238.
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796668 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 07:42 |
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kkt <kkt [at] zipcon.net> writes:
>The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
>the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
>U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
>have to be done besides changing signs.
And clean up the at-grade intersections, the substandard curves, ...
US 101 from LA->SF is not going to be an Interstate anytime soon.
--
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personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/
** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! **
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796683 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 18:17 |
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Don Del Grande <del_grande_news [at] earthlink.net> writes:
> kkt wrote:
>
> > Don Del Grande (the guy who removes as many E-mail addresses from
> > replies as he can to cut down on junk E-mails) writes:
> >
> >> kkt wrote:
> >>
> >> > necromancer writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Rothman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> California Route 238, which the state carries in both State Route and
> >> >> >> Interstate flavours, is an important conduit between metro-Oakland and
> >> >> >> Fremont. The WHL-360 capture for this route highlights its
> >> >> >> intersection with Routes 92 and 185.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do tell, where, *exactly* is IH38 from which this IH238 apparently
> >> >> bypasses something? Just MNSHO, but IH38 would be the perfect
> >> >> designation for the proposed IH3 in GA and TN - it fits the grid
> >> >> better (note I said, "fits the grid better," and not, "fits," or,
> >> >> "fits perfectly," etc...) and makes CA's IH238 seem even more absurd.
> >> >
> >> > There wasn't an available interstate number.
> >>
> >> Yes there was - as a matter of fact, it was called I-780 for a time,
> >> before they moved it to the Vallejo-Benecia area.
> >
> >Hm, I don't remember when it was called 780.
>
> I want to say sometime around 1980 - I also remember when it was
> simultaneously signed I-780 and I-238, so calling it just I-238 may
> have been the plan the whole time.
>
> >> (Changing numbers
> >> is nothing new - remember when I-880 was in Sacramento?)
> >
> >I do remember that. I think I have an old map that shows it, too.
>
> What was I-880 is now "regular" I-80 (the freeway that goes by ARCO
> Arena and Fry's Electronics), and what was I-80 is now "business" I-80
> (with the green interstate shields). I think the change came around
> 1985.
>
> >The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
> >the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
> >U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
> >have to be done besides changing signs.
>
> The problem is, there would be a disconnect - all of the roads between
> the Golden Gate Bridge (which itself is an "undivided highway", and
> it's going to stay that way unless somebody decides on a barrier that
> can be moved so you can change the direction of a lane for the commute
> periods) and the existing freeways have intersections, and I very
> seriously doubt anybody is going to build any sort of freeway
> connecting the GGB to any existing freeway any time soon.
Yes, the Golden Gate Bridge and routes through S.F. would be very
difficult to make into an interstate. What could be done is change
101 from L.A. to San Jose into I-3, and then few choices:
Continue north on US-101 (Bayshore) to S.F. and end where it meets
I-80.
Continue north on I-880 to central Oakland where it meets I-80.
Continue north on I-880 to central Oakland, then west I-580 over the
Richmond-San Rafael Bridge to where it meets US-101.
-- Patrick
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796685 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 18:25 |
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Cameron Kaiser <ckaiser [at] floodgap.com> writes:
> kkt <kkt [at] zipcon.net> writes:
>
> >The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
> >the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
> >U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
> >have to be done besides changing signs.
>
> And clean up the at-grade intersections, the substandard curves, ...
I don't think there's many of those left. A little stretch in Salinas
and a little stretch north of Santa Barbara.
> US 101 from LA->SF is not going to be an Interstate anytime soon.
Maybe. But look at some of the roads that have been made into
interstate even though they're not quite standard, like 880 in Alemeda
County.
-- Patrick
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796756 ] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 04:51 |
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kkt <kkt [at] zipcon.net> writes:
>>>The basic problem from a route numbering point of view is that I-80 is
>>>the only two-digit interstate in the Bay Area. They could change
>>>U.S. 101 from Los Angeles to the Bay Area to I-3; very little would
>>>have to be done besides changing signs.
>>And clean up the at-grade intersections, the substandard curves, ...
>I don't think there's many of those left. A little stretch in Salinas
>and a little stretch north of Santa Barbara.
Yes, those, plus several sections south of Santa Maria, a strip south of
Gilroy, the segment through Prunedale, ... point being there's actually
quite a number of them.
>>US 101 from LA->SF is not going to be an Interstate anytime soon.
>Maybe. But look at some of the roads that have been made into
>interstate even though they're not quite standard, like 880 in Alemeda
>County.
Granted, but US 101 is far more sub-Interstate standard than that.
--
Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser [at] floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128
personal page: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/
** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! **
** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ **
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| Re: WHL-360 captures from Hayward, Calif., USA [message #796796 ] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 15:47 |
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"Carl Rogers" <carl-mtr [at] calrog.com> wrote in message
news:085f5e48-717a-42a6-8130-47e961020b31 [at] e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi VIatologists,
The only things that have to be "captured" are viewers, because they'll try
to flee as soon as they realize how shitty the content is.
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