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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #795967] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 07:12 |
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"¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra [at] man.jp> wrote in message
news:5njbncFhccsnU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
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> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
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> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often attribute
> the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland motorcycle rider
> injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a jacket.
>
> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate 83
> after being cut off by another motorist in September.
It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
According to police, McPhatter was
> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
>
Second proof it was his fault.
> Police said that McPhatter might have been severely injured had it not
> been for the Impact Jacket he was wearing -- a jacket that inflates like
> an air bag when a motorcyclist is in an wreck.
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> McPhatter suffered from sore ribs and knees and a few other minor
> injuries, but it could have been much worse, officials said.
>
> Officials said McPhatter's crash was the first real-life incident in the
> U.S. where the jacket was used.
It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #795970 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 07:34 |
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" QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
news:13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com...
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> "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra [at] man.jp> wrote in message
>> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
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>> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
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>> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often attribute
>> the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland motorcycle rider
>> injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a jacket.
>>
>> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate
>> 83 after being cut off by another motorist in September.
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> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Bullshit!
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> According to police, McPhatter was
>> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
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> Second proof it was his fault.
More BULLSHIT!
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>> Police said that McPhatter might have been severely injured had it not
>> been for the Impact Jacket he was wearing -- a jacket that inflates like
>> an air bag when a motorcyclist is in an wreck.
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>> McPhatter suffered from sore ribs and knees and a few other minor
>> injuries, but it could have been much worse, officials said.
>>
>> Officials said McPhatter's crash was the first real-life incident in the
>> U.S. where the jacket was used.
> It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
You poor pathetic loser.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #795974 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 08:48 |
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" QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote
> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
Safety Institute. I taught people to avoid dangerous situations such as
being cut off. And I'm here to tell you that you're an idiot.
Motorcyclist are frequently cut off by drivers who don't see them and change
lanes either directly into them or directly in front of them, sometimes
giving them no time to react and nowhere to go.
This is not the motorcyclists' fault.
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
Uh, no, no it's not. But stupidity always seems to be yours.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #795984 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 15:20 |
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #795998 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 18:02 |
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On Feb 25, 10:34=A0pm, "Reality_Check=A9" <Real... [at] Check.it> wrote:
> " QUEST" <deytrg... [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
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> news:13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com...
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> > "=A5 UltraMan =A5" <ul... [at] man.jp> wrote in message
> >> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
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> >> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
> >> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
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> >> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often attribu=
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> >> the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland motorcycle rider=
> >> injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a jacket.
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> >> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate=
> >> 83 after being cut off by another motorist in September.
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> > It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
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> Bullshit!
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> > According to police, McPhatter was
> >> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
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> > Second proof it was his fault.
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> More BULLSHIT!
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I question the reporting at least. How does a motorcyclist 'hit the
ground at an impact speed of 140 mph' in traffic? The only way to do
it is to have been _going_ 140 mph and thus it _is_ his fault unless
you can find somewhere with the flow is near that speed.
Harry K
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796002 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 18:19 |
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796007 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 18:45 |
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Harry K wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:34 pm, "Reality_Check©" <Real... [at] Check.it> wrote:
>> " QUEST" <deytrg... [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
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>> news:13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com...
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>>> "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ul... [at] man.jp> wrote in message
>>>> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
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>>>> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>>>> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>>
>>>> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often
>>>> attribute the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland
>>>> motorcycle rider injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a
>>>> jacket.
>>
>>>> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on
>>>> Interstate 83 after being cut off by another motorist in September.
>>
>>> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>>
>> Bullshit!
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>>> According to police, McPhatter was
>>>> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
>>
>>> Second proof it was his fault.
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>> More BULLSHIT!
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> I question the reporting at least. How does a motorcyclist 'hit the
> ground at an impact speed of 140 mph' in traffic? The only way to do
> it is to have been _going_ 140 mph and thus it _is_ his fault unless
> you can find somewhere with the flow is near that speed.
So is it the Study that's in question or the idiot reporters as usual
who don't know their ass from a tulip ?
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> Harry K
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796012 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 20:06 |
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In article <13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com>,
QUEST <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
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>"¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra [at] man.jp> wrote in message
>news:5njbncFhccsnU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
>> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
>>
>> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>>
>> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often attribute
>> the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland motorcycle rider
>> injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a jacket.
>>
>> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate 83
>> after being cut off by another motorist in September.
>
>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Wrong, of course. In fact, following very closely precludes being cut off.
>A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
Oh look, a new troll, even stupider than the last. Can stupidity
ever reach a limit?
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796019 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 20:42 |
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In article <13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com>,
" QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra [at] man.jp> wrote in message
> news:5njbncFhccsnU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
> > Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
> >
> > POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
> > UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
> >
> > BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often attribute
> > the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland motorcycle rider
> > injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a jacket.
> >
> > Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate 83
> > after being cut off by another motorist in September.
>
> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Nonsense.
"Cut off" means a move from the side. A vehicle in another lane which
you are passing or which is passing you must at some point be just in
front of your vehicle.
At that point, if that vehicle moves into your lane, it cuts you off.
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> According to police, McPhatter was
> > ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
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> Second proof it was his fault.
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> > Police said that McPhatter might have been severely injured had it not
> > been for the Impact Jacket he was wearing -- a jacket that inflates like
> > an air bag when a motorcyclist is in an wreck.
> >
> > McPhatter suffered from sore ribs and knees and a few other minor
> > injuries, but it could have been much worse, officials said.
> >
> > Officials said McPhatter's crash was the first real-life incident in the
> > U.S. where the jacket was used.
> It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
Drivel.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796020 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 20:50 |
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On Feb 26, 2:48 am, "P. Roehling" <nowayj... [at] uh-uh.edu> wrote:
> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
> Safety Institute.
"Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.
> This is not the motorcyclists' fault.
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> > A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
>
> Uh, no, no it's not. But stupidity always seems to be yours.
Given your previous statement:
> Motorcyclist are frequently cut off by drivers who don't see them and change
> lanes either directly into them or directly in front of them, sometimes
> giving them no time to react and nowhere to go.
....clearly the stupid ones are those who insist on riding a small,
relatively light and fragile, relatively unstable vehicle that exposes
their body to the larger, heavier vehicles on the road and just the
general surroundings should anything go wrong. Add to this the jackass
way many cyclists ride. They might have more time to react if they
weren't doing 140 in a 70 zone, weaving in and out of traffic, popping
wheelies, etc.
The fact that all of the above is true doesn't add up to a moral
failing among auto and truck drivers, it's a bullshit mentality of
bikers who insist on flaunting the reality of physics.
You know, like this guy mentioned in another thread:
http://www.babyhulk.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show =HOLY-SH-amp-T%21.html&Itemid=80
The rest of the story is that shitforbrains had a friend killed under
similar circumstances a week prior. Didn't seem to have much
um...impact on him. I sense an airbag jacket wouldn't have helped. A
brain transplant maybe.
Maybe you should sue the government for not providing road-rash proof
roads.
And fuck this "loud pipes save lives" bullshit. The fact that you
choose to ride an inherently dangerous contraption is your problem. It
doesn't justify assaulting everyone else's eardrums.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796021 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 20:52 |
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On Feb 26, 1:12=A0am, " QUEST" <deytrg... [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
And loud pipes benefitted this clown how?
I'd agree it's always their fault because they chose to hop onto a
motorcycle to begin with.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796022 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 20:53 |
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<obbzerver [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.
Ooooh, *nice* troll.
Of course, some of us have been riding for decades, at silly-eek speeds
sometimes, without a scratch, but never mind that.
Back under your bridge, now.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F & SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796024 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 21:00 |
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Not on a multi-lane road, or even when someone is passing on a single-lane road.
>A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
Ah. Even when a spoke snaps on a wheel that was tuned yesterday by the dealer,
blowing out the tire?
Really, you're too stupid to be allowed to post in public.
-- Larry
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796030 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 21:36 |
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> According to police, McPhatter was
> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
One source reports that he was doing 70 miles an hour, "keeping up with
traffic". So maybe the reporter pulled a number out of his ass figuring the
jacket cut the damage to the equivalent of 50% or ~35mph (besides the air
bag the jacket has armor). The dimwit reporter multiplied instead of
dividing.
"One of his companions went over to him fearing the worst not even
checking for vital signs and protecting his friend by shielding cars from
his body."The reporter can't write, either.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796034 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 21:55 |
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On Feb 26, 2:53=A0pm, totallydeadmail... [at] yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> <obbzer... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.
>
> Ooooh, *nice* troll.
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> Of course, some of us have been riding for decades, at silly-eek speeds
> sometimes, without a scratch, but never mind that.
And some soldiers come back from a war zone without being shot, but it
doesn't alter that their odds of being hurt are higher than most
people's just because of the inherent nature of the circumstances.
I'm sure truck-bumper boy got away with asshole road technique
numerous times...until he didn't.
But you've certainly proven my assertion that bikers like to ignore
reality.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796038 ] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 22:25 |
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<obbzerver [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> And some soldiers come back from a war zone without being shot, but it
> doesn't alter that their odds of being hurt are higher than most
> people's just because of the inherent nature of the circumstances.
And some soldiers recognise the danger and can minimise it.
"Oh, I know that sound. That's the sound of a shrapnel shell from a
howitzer. DUCK!"
BANG!
"Oh, that new recruit didn't know what I know. He's toast."
Or didn't you think that?
Same applies to some motorcyclists.
Never mind. Continue with your preconceptions, troll. You're making
yourself look silly.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F & SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796046 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 02:22 |
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On Feb 26, 3:00=A0pm, pltrgyst <pltrg... [at] spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> >A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
>
> Ah. Even when a spoke snaps on a wheel that was tuned yesterday by the dea=
ler,
> blowing out the tire?
They're the one who chose to ride around on only 2 spoked wheels and
exposed to the great outdoors. Whose fault is it you don't install new
spokes every month? Of course, if bike dealer mechanics are as
competent as the average auto dealer mechanic, that could explain part
of it.
Ya'll like to talk about how much "freedom" you feel on a bike. Sure,
you're free to deal with the reality of physics, balance, etc.
Hopefully you don't cause anyone else injury when you become road
smear because you fell outside of that small margin of error you seem
to find appealing or choose to be oblivious to.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796080 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 05:02 |
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<obbzerver [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:19136792-02fe-4403-ae12-d881ce5b7d40 [at] d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> I'd agree it's always their fault because they chose to hop onto a
> motorcycle to begin with.
By this same "logic," ANYTHING that happens to
ANYONE on ANY sort of vehicle is their fault, for
choosing to leave the safety of their homes in the first
place.
Bob M.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796082 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 05:07 |
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<obbzerver [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5cb1bebf-186f-42c1-a79d-ffe44a08c0e3 [at] u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 26, 2:48 am, "P. Roehling" <nowayj... [at] uh-uh.edu> wrote:
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>> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
>> Safety Institute.
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> "Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.
Millions of riders who every year ride thousands of
miles each might disagree with that statement.
I take it you have the experience with motorcycling
to make this sort of judgement in the first place - right?
Bob M.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796098 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 08:40 |
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On Feb 26, 11:07=A0pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample... [at] address.invalid> wrote:
> >> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle=
> >> Safety Institute.
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> > "Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.
>
> Millions of riders who every year ride thousands of
> miles each might disagree with that statement.
That's nice. There are people who believe in leprechauns, that space
aliens create crop circles, that Hitler was a great guy and that O.J.
didn't do it. Beliefs based on denial of reality are something to be
viewed with disdain.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796101 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 12:47 |
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In rec.motorcycles obbzerver [at] yahoo.com wrote:
: They're the one who chose to ride around on only 2 spoked wheels and
: exposed to the great outdoors.
You need a hobby. I mean, seriously, go and find something which takes up
your time so that you're productively contributing to at least your own
growth and development. Currently you're sitting around making an ass out
of yourself by not thinking through your statements very much before
posting them. We've seen your type before and we'll see them again,
you're not special and you have better things to do.
Justin
'07 Suzuki SV650
'02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796121 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 16:08 |
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On Feb 27, 6:47=A0am, "Justin" <n... [at] spam.com> wrote:
> In rec.motorcycles obbzer... [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> : They're the one who chose to ride around on only 2 spoked wheels and
> : exposed to the great outdoors.
>
> You need a hobby. =A0I mean, seriously, go and find something which takes =
up
> your time
So you feel your above babbling is the best way to spend your time?
What I realize it translates to is "Don't piss on my parade man, I
don't wanna hear the truth..."
Simple reality aversion.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life [message #796129 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 18:02 |
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<obbzerver [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a4164a6d-4f37-4ad3-a386-f539392151e2 [at] t66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 26, 11:07 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample... [at] address.invalid> wrote:
>> Millions of riders who every year ride thousands of
>> miles each might disagree with that statement.
> That's nice. There are people who believe in leprechauns, that space
> aliens create crop circles, that Hitler was a great guy and that O.J.
> didn't do it. Beliefs based on denial of reality are something to be
> viewed with disdain.
What denial of reality? Again, there ARE millions of
riders out there, each of whom ride thousands of miles each year
WITHOUT ACCIDENT. Yes, there are also those who
don't ride with safety in mind, and they definitely will
suffer the consequences - motorcycles are far more
unforgiving of that sort of thing than cars. But that doesn't
change the fact that for those of us who DO ride safely, the
incremental risk of being on two wheels vs. four is not that
great - and what risk there IS, is largely due to the dangers
presented by inattentive and/or incompetent drivers of other
vehicles.
I strongly suspect you simply have no idea what you're
talking about.
Bob M.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796149 ] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 19:42 |
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:40:29 -0800 (PST), obbzerver [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> Beliefs based on denial of reality are something to be
>viewed with disdain.
Bingo. Which is why we all think you're such an idiot. The reality is,
for people who learn how to do it, motorcycling is a relatively safe
endeavor. (Those statistics that make you think it's so dangerous are
skewed by the fact that most crashes happen to novices. For example,
I've ridden over 20 years and a few hundred thousand miles without
crashing.) OTOH, driving your own vehicle is more dangerous than
taking public transport. If you're so uptight about dangerous
behavior, you don't drive, do you? Or live in a dangerous place? Or
work in a dangerous profession? Of course, you wouldn't be that
hipocritical.
Your beliefs are so blissfully ignorant of reality as to be laughable.
--
Turby the Turbosurfer
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796487 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 01:53 |
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"Reality_Check©" <Reality [at] Check.it> wrote in message
news:47c3a756$0$7274$88260bb3 [at] free.teranews.com...
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> " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
> news:13s7beg9qr7d07f [at] corp.supernews.com...
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>> "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra [at] man.jp> wrote in message
>>> Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life
>>>
>>> POSTED: 3:59 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>>> UPDATED: 6:25 pm EDT October 12, 2007
>>>
>>> BALTIMORE -- While motorists who have been in car crashes often
>>> attribute the help of air bags to saving their lives, a Maryland
>>> motorcycle rider injured in a collision is doing the same -- for a
>>> jacket.
>>>
>>> Joseph McPhatter, of Randallstown, was injured in a crash on Interstate
>>> 83 after being cut off by another motorist in September.
>>
>> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> Bullshit!
>
nope very true
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>> According to police, McPhatter was
>>> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
>>>
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>> Second proof it was his fault.
>
> More BULLSHIT!
Wrong again
>
>> It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
>> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
>
> You poor pathetic loser.
the truth will set you free
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796489 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 01:56 |
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"P. Roehling" <nowayjose [at] uh-uh.edu> wrote in message
news:47c3c449$0$1098$4c368faf [at] roadrunner.com...
>
> " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote
>
>> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
> Safety Institute. I taught people to avoid dangerous situations such as
> being cut off. And I'm here to tell you that you're an idiot.
>
If you ride about 1% slower than traffic and follow at at least 2 seconds
you cannot be cut off
> Motorcyclist are frequently cut off by drivers who don't see them and
> change lanes either directly into them or directly in front of them,
> sometimes giving them no time to react and nowhere to go.
>
Impossible
> This is not the motorcyclists' fault.
>
yes
it is avoidable
A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796490 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 01:58 |
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"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j088s39ujr49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa [at] 4ax.com...
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw>
> wrote:
>
>>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
> --
If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and dont
create
a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796492 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 02:00 |
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"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst [at] spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
news:sqr8s3lmjnr4v2vv2lu16qntu5a3f1ljk1 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw>
> wrote:
>
>>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> Not on a multi-lane road, or even when someone is passing on a single-lane
> road.
>
>>A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
>
> Ah. Even when a spoke snaps on a wheel that was tuned yesterday by the
> dealer,
> blowing out the tire?
>
>
ya you didnt do a proper pre-ride inspection
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796497 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 02:21 |
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"Trippers day time" <todayyes12354 [at] yahoo.com.> wrote in message
news:13shabvaptunad3 [at] corp.supernews.com...
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> "Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j088s39ujr49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>>
>> I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
>> --
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and
> dont create
> a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
> I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
ok..... I'll be the guy that passes you from behind and cuts you off to make
the next exit..... you did not get cut off by the guy in front of you, but
by the guy you made the $50,000 bet with....
thank you very much, thanks for playing with me now go away!!!!
Invisible68
I'll take only cash please.....
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796499 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 02:40 |
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On Feb 29, 7:58 pm, "Trippers day time" <todayyes12... [at] yahoo.com.>
wrote:
> "Scott in SoCal" <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:j088s39ujr49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa [at] 4ax.com...> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrg... [at] yahoo.com.tw>
> > wrote:
>
> >>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> > I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
> > --
>
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and dont
> create
> a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
Balls, I've had it happen to me quite a few times. I'm tooling along
in the right lane, and Speedy McSpeederson suddenly realizes that
we're passing the deceleration lane for the exit he wants to take, and
crosses two or more lanes of traffic while braking hard. Suddenly
you're looking at the ass end of his car, brake lights aglow, and you
have to throw out the anchor to avoid hitting him.
And then there's the "swoop and squat" maneuver, where someone
deliberately does the above not because they're missing their exit but
because they *want* you to hit them so they can get your insurance
money. I think I actually had someone try to do this to me, or else
the driver was spectacularly unaware. I was driving down a very long
left turn lane at maybe 30-35 MPH (Fairfax County Parkway NB
approaching Fair Lakes, for those of you in the NoVA area) while
through traffic was going maybe 10 MPH slower. Suddenly and for no
apparent reason a car in the leftmost through lane cut directly in
front of me and braked to a halt; I immediately laid on the horn,
swerved into the other left turn lane (and truth be told, partway into
the grassy median) and let the ABS do its thing. I was so completely
shaken and angry that I yelled at the top of my lungs (my windows were
down) "What the FUCK is wrong with you, asshole?" The driver of the
other car shrugged at me and yelled back in a very thick foreign
accent "other driver cut me off!" No other driver cut him off,
through traffic was bumper to bumper. So either he was actively
trying to get me to hit him or he simply thought that it might be a
nice idea to turn left exactly as I was almost passing him (although
that doesn't explain the braking.)
So yes, you can be cut off while driving in a perfectly normal,
reasonable manner.
> I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
where do you ride/drive? I'm certain I can do it, I see people a lot
stupider than I doing it all the time.
nate
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796526 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 04:32 |
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On Feb 29, 4:58=A0pm, "Trippers day time" <todayyes12... [at] yahoo.com.>
wrote:
> "Scott in SoCal" <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:j088s39ujr=
49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa [at] 4ax.com...> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " Q=
UEST" <deytrg... [at] yahoo.com.tw>
> > wrote:
>
> >>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> > I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
> > --
>
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and do=
nt
> create
> a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
> I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
How about cars plain not seeing you? I bought my first motorcycle in
Syracuse NY. Departed the dealer's lot and went two blocks in the
right hand lane (2 lanes my direction). Red light. I stopped and
like all new riders, was 'blipping' the throttle waiting for the
green. Get green and proceed straight. Car that was in the lane to
my left _with his passenger side window OPEN, tries to make a right
turn. He wore a boot print in the passenger door. No, I didn't go
down. Mind you that we were both nosed up to the stop line and I was
in his view had he but looked right.
Motorcyclist's fault?
Harry K
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796530 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 04:43 |
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Motorcyclist's fault?
Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
--
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Paul ( pjm [at] pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
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'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796554 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 07:03 |
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"Trippers day time" <todayyes12354 [at] yahoo.com.> wrote in message
news:13sha77cvgpf7e0 [at] corp.supernews.com...
>
> "P. Roehling" <nowayjose [at] uh-uh.edu> wrote in message
> news:47c3c449$0$1098$4c368faf [at] roadrunner.com...
>>
>> " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw> wrote
>>
>>> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>>
>> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
>> Safety Institute. I taught people to avoid dangerous situations such as
>> being cut off. And I'm here to tell you that you're an idiot.
>>
>
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic and follow at at least 2 seconds
> you cannot be cut off
Complete BULLSHIT!
>
>
>> Motorcyclist are frequently cut off by drivers who don't see them and
>> change lanes either directly into them or directly in front of them,
>> sometimes giving them no time to react and nowhere to go.
>>
> Impossible
>
>
>
>> This is not the motorcyclists' fault.
>>
> yes
> it is avoidable
>
>
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
More complete BULLSHIT!
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796555 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 07:05 |
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"Trippers day time" <todayyes12354 [at] yahoo.com.> wrote in message
news:13shabvaptunad3 [at] corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j088s39ujr49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrgfdr [at] yahoo.com.tw>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>>
>> I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
>> --
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and
> dont create
> a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
> I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
You don't have $50k you ignorant turd.
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796573 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 15:59 |
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On Feb 29, 7:43=A0pm, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>
> --
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!http://www.=
theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm [at] pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
And just how was I supposed to do that? Not ride at all I guess would
do it.
Harry K
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796578 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 16:21 |
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:58:47 -0800, "Trippers day time"
<todayyes12354 [at] yahoo.com.> wrote:
>I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off
The insurance company of the last drunk driver that cut me off ended up paying
me $100,000.
That's pretty strange, isn't it? An insurance company paying ME for something
that according to your twisted logic, was MY fault? They didn't even let it go
to trial, they just wrote the check.
--
Jack
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796581 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 17:33 |
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>>
>> Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>And just how was I supposed to do that?
Beats me - I wasn't there. My point stands. It does not
direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
--
Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
Paul ( pjm [at] pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796595 ] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 19:41 |
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On Feb 25, 11:12=A0pm, " QUEST"
> It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
Prove it. Quantifiabale, demonstrable and with repeatable testing
methods that will stand up to peer review testing. Otherwise you are
just another asshat cager that wouldn't have a clue if it was shoved
up your nose.
Either you are an IDIOT or you are a fucking brain dead septic tank
living cager.
> According to police, McPhatter was
>
> > ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
>
> Second proof it was his fault.
Not really your just projecting your own fear of anything over 10mph.
> > Police said that McPhatter might have been severely injured had it not
> > been for the Impact Jacket he was wearing -- a jacket that inflates like=
> > an air bag when a motorcyclist is in an wreck.
>
> > McPhatter suffered from sore ribs and knees and a few other minor
> > injuries, but it could have been much worse, officials said.
>
> It does not exempt the rider from his 2 errors.
> A motorcycle crash is always the riders fault.
WOW! Really? You ought to go into politics if you can tell lies and
factully fanciful fruitloop facts like that with a straight face.
What a LIAR. What an ignorant baboon...sheesh you must be the bastard
love child of Phyls Shafly and John Burch.
You are not intelligent...you are a car driving cell phone sucking
NIMBY scum bag.
Have a nice day
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Kieth S
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD [message #796658 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 03:47 |
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On Mar 1, 8:33=A0am, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 29, 7:43=A0pm, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> >> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
> >And just how was I supposed to do that?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Beats me - I wasn't there. =A0My point stands. =A0It does =
not
> direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
>
I suspect that that somehow makes sense to you. Not sure that I care
to hear what sense though.
Harry K
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| Re: ~~ Air Bag-Like Jacket Saves Motorcyclist's Life ~~ and LOUD PIPES [message #796659 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 03:56 |
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:47:38 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 1, 8:33 am, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm [at] see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> >> <turnkey4... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>>
>> >> Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>> >And just how was I supposed to do that?
>>
>> Beats me - I wasn't there. My point stands. It does not
>> direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
>>
>
>I suspect that that somehow makes sense to you. Not sure that I care
>to hear what sense though.
>
>Harry K
Good, because I'm fairly sure I can't be bothered explaining
it to you.
--
Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
Paul ( pjm [at] pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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