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Wed, 20 February 2008 20:23 |
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Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
"It has a smaller engine," said Kevin Johnson, managing partner of
Autoworld. "It takes less cylinders (and) less pistons, so it doesn't burn
as much gas."
The cost of downgrading the engine can range from $1,200 to $2,000. But
Johnson said it's not worth the investment, because the conversion could
cost more than the gas.
"Personally, I don't think the $1,200 is worth it, because in the long run,
you probably wouldn't have spent that much more," he said. "It's kind of a
push situation. It is worth it to spend $1,200 or $2,000 on a vehicle that
gets better gas mileage?"
(snip)
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Idiots would do better to just drive slower but the media has brainwashed
them against that.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795150 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 20:30 |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A4A7E10214Driemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70...
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> http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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> POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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> Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
> fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
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> Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite
> of
> a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
> body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
Sounds like bullshit. What kind of vehicles? SUVs? What's a V4, and who
makes it? How will these vehicles pass emissions control testing in states
that require it?
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795152 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 20:42 |
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On Feb 20, 2:23=A0pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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> POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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> Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on=
> fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite o=
f
> a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto=
> body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-=
> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
nate
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795157 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 21:34 |
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On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, N8N <njna... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2:23 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
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> <xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> > Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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> > POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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> > Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
> > fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> > Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
> > a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
> > body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
> > power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
> and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
>
> nate
I saw that too and figured it's prolly just a typo. He wrote I4 and
the typist typed v4.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795159 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 21:44 |
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>> converting high-
>> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
> Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
> and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
I think that a V6 outgrowth of that engine appeared in the US as the
2.9 liter for a while, but I don't recall that the V4 ever did.
I guess that they *meant* either retrofitting inline Fours or, more
likely, disabling the fuel injection and valve operation of some
cylinders on V8's. Disabling cylinders had a certain vogue in the mid-
late 70s energy crises, though you still had a heavy car with, by
today's standards, a lossy driveline and poor aerodynamics -- just a
slower one.
Reminds me of the (in)famous V8-6-4 that Cadillac briefly had in the
early 80s, an ancestor of the idea Chrysler and some others adopted,
whereby some cylinders are disabled during times of low power demand,
like highway cruising. The idea works a *lot* better nowadays, with
improved computerized engine management and port fuel injection and
the ability to twiddle cam and valve timing. Some or all of these new-
generation schemes also randomize the choice of cylinders to
deactivate, whereas homemade schemes from the 70s probably weren't
that good for engine longevity.
--Joe
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795171 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 23:47 |
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On Feb 20, 1:42 pm, N8N <njna... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2:23 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > motorists are converting high-
> > power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
> and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
Hey! Saab Sonnets!
--
C.R. Krieger
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795175 ] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 23:12 |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! :-)
Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
instead of SUVs and pickups.
A mid-sized sedan with a modern V-6 can be very sporty
AND economical. Consider the much-beloved '65 Mustang ...
but with a modern V6 delivering both superior power
and economy to the original engine and the advantages
of lighter aluminum and composite materials. That's
the kind of package the auto industry should be aiming
for. First one there gets all the gold.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795183 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 01:03 |
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"B1ackwater" <bw [at] barrk.net> wrote in message
news:47bca38e.41174859 [at] news.east.earthlink.net...
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>
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>>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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>>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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>>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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>>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>>
>>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite
>>of
>>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
> Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
> be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
> Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! :-)
>
> Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
> knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
> off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
> instead of SUVs and pickups.
>
> A mid-sized sedan with a modern V-6 can be very sporty
> AND economical. Consider the much-beloved '65 Mustang ...
> but with a modern V6 delivering both superior power
> and economy to the original engine and the advantages
> of lighter aluminum and composite materials. That's
> the kind of package the auto industry should be aiming
> for. First one there gets all the gold.
The current V6 Mustang is a pretty good performer, and the engine produces
slight less horsepower than the previous generation Mustang GT. Various
Nissans have been kicking ass for years with the VQ35 V6. As a matter of
fact, many of the Japanese V6s with CVVT produce substiantially more
horsepower than American V6s of similar displacement, and durability is not
a problem.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795185 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 01:13 |
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On Feb 20, 7:03=A0pm, "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidentchul Candydate"
<CleaninOutTheStab... [at] fakeranch.tx> wrote:
> "B1ackwater" <b... [at] barrk.net> wrote in message
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> news:47bca38e.41174859 [at] news.east.earthlink.net...
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> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> > MURDERERS" <xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> >>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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> >>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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> >>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped =
on
> >>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
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> >>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite=
> >>of
> >>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At au=
to
> >>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting hig=
h-
> >>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
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> > =A0 What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
> > =A0 Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
> > =A0 be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
> > =A0 Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! =A0:-)
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> > =A0 Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
> > =A0 knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
> > =A0 off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
> > =A0 instead of SUVs and pickups.
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> > =A0 A mid-sized sedan with a modern V-6 can be very sporty
> > =A0 AND economical. Consider the much-beloved '65 Mustang ...
> > =A0 but with a modern V6 delivering both superior power
> > =A0 and economy to the original engine and the advantages
> > =A0 of lighter aluminum and composite materials. That's
> > =A0 the kind of package the auto industry should be aiming
> > =A0 for. First one there gets all the gold.
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> The current V6 Mustang is a pretty good performer, and the engine produces=
> slight less horsepower than the previous generation Mustang GT. Various
> Nissans have been kicking ass for years with the VQ35 V6. As a matter of
> fact, many of the Japanese V6s with CVVT produce substiantially more
> horsepower than American V6s of similar displacement, and durability is no=
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> a problem.- Hide quoted text -
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Back in the day, I had a Nissan Maxima, 3.0L V6, 5-speed. Redlined at
6500 -- I tend to shift around 3500 -- 3500 in 4th was 105 MPH --
engine was not even breathing hard.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795186 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 01:18 |
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"B1ackwater" <bw [at] barrk.net> wrote in message
news:47bca38e.41174859 [at] news.east.earthlink.net...
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>
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>>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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>>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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>>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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>>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>>
>>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite
>>of
>>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
> Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
> be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
> Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! :-)
>
> Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
> knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
> off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
> instead of SUVs and pickups.
>
What's wrong with the Mustang GT, or the Pontiac G8, or the various Nissan
sports sedans and coupes, or the upcoming Dodge Challenger or......There are
plenty of good, sporty cars out there. It's just that every soccer mom
thinks she needs an SUV, so she won't get injured when she collides with
something while babbling on her cell phone...And we won't even get into the
beer bellied, drugstore cowboy poseurs......
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795240 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 09:33 |
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On 20 Feb 2008, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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> http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
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> POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
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> Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
> fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
> a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
> body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> "It has a smaller engine," said Kevin Johnson, managing partner of
> Autoworld. "It takes less cylinders (and) less pistons, so it doesn't burn
> as much gas."
>
Smaller car engine = smaller penis.
Hey everybody, USians are getting smaller penises!
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795241 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 09:49 |
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On Feb 20, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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> Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>
> POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>
> Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
> fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
> a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
> body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> "It has a smaller engine," said Kevin Johnson, managing partner of
> Autoworld. "It takes less cylinders (and) less pistons, so it doesn't burn
> as much gas."
>
> The cost of downgrading the engine can range from $1,200 to $2,000. But
> Johnson said it's not worth the investment, because the conversion could
> cost more than the gas.
>
> "Personally, I don't think the $1,200 is worth it, because in the long run,
> you probably wouldn't have spent that much more," he said. "It's kind of a
> push situation. It is worth it to spend $1,200 or $2,000 on a vehicle that
> gets better gas mileage?"
>
> (snip)
>
> -----------------------
>
> Idiots would do better to just drive slower but the media has brainwashed
> them against that.
It also helps to drive down hill everywhere you go. And if you have a
good tail wind, open your doors; they'll act like sails.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795252 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 14:10 |
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On Feb 20, 10:37=A0pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:18:52 -0600, "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidentchul
>
> Candydate" <CleaninOutTheStab... [at] fakeranch.tx> wrote:
> >What's wrong with the Mustang GT, or the Pontiac G8, or the various Nissa=
n
> >sports sedans and coupes, or the upcoming Dodge Challenger or......There =
are
> >plenty of good, sporty cars out there. =A0It's just that every soccer mom=
> >thinks she needs an SUV, so she won't get injured when she collides with
> >something while babbling on her cell phone...And we won't even get into t=
he
> >beer bellied, drugstore cowboy poseurs......
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> The upside of all this is going to be a FIRE SALE on SUVs, so that
> anyone who actually NEEDS one will be able to pick one up cheap.
Rock on.
Can someone recommend a good SUV made within the past few years that
would have vinyl seats, rubber floor mats, floor shift manual
transmission, large towing capacity and a Diesel engine? Hoping to
find one with the "towing package."
What's that you say? nobody outfits an SUV like a Real Truck anymore?
oh well, never mind...
nate
(that reminds me, I think I found a camper shell for the Ugly Truck
but I keep forgetting to take the guy's phone no. to work with me...)
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795280 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 16:37 |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:03:35 -0600, "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidentchul
Candydate" <CleaninOutTheStables [at] fakeranch.tx> wrote:
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>"B1ackwater" <bw [at] barrk.net> wrote in message
>news:47bca38e.41174859 [at] news.east.earthlink.net...
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>> MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
>>>
>>>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>>>
>>>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>>>
>>>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>>>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>>>
>>>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite
>>>of
>>>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>>>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>>>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>>
>> What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
>> Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
>> be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
>> Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! :-)
>>
>> Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
>> knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
>> off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
>> instead of SUVs and pickups.
>>
>> A mid-sized sedan with a modern V-6 can be very sporty
>> AND economical. Consider the much-beloved '65 Mustang ...
>> but with a modern V6 delivering both superior power
>> and economy to the original engine and the advantages
>> of lighter aluminum and composite materials. That's
>> the kind of package the auto industry should be aiming
>> for. First one there gets all the gold.
>
>The current V6 Mustang is a pretty good performer, and the engine produces
>slight less horsepower than the previous generation Mustang GT. Various
>Nissans have been kicking ass for years with the VQ35 V6. As a matter of
>fact, many of the Japanese V6s with CVVT produce substiantially more
>horsepower than American V6s of similar displacement, and durability is not
>a problem.
The Japanese are reductionists/perfectionists ... so it's
little wonder their engines do better. They'd actually be
ashamed of themselves otherwise.
Aside from raw horsepower though, it IS possible to take
a lot of WEIGHT off of an automobile nowdays, assuming
anyone's interested. Extensive use of aluminum, plastics
and composite materials could knock a third off the
weight of the abovementioned Mustang - giving you much
more bang from every horsepower.
Aluminum however DOES add some expense ... whereas
mass-produced plastic/composite parts can be closer
to the price of steel - potentially cheaper because
it's easier to form complex shapes.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795281 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 16:39 |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:18:52 -0600, "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidentchul
Candydate" <CleaninOutTheStables [at] fakeranch.tx> wrote:
>
>"B1ackwater" <bw [at] barrk.net> wrote in message
>news:47bca38e.41174859 [at] news.east.earthlink.net...
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:23:33 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>> MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
>>>
>>>Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>>>
>>>POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>>>
>>>Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>>>fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>>>
>>>Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite
>>>of
>>>a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>>>body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>>>power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>>
>> What ? Toss out that "Sweet !" 700 horsepower 'Hemi' ???!!!
>> Why that's just plain un-American ! Damn - you wouldn't even
>> be able to drag an M-1 tank behind you to the corner store.
>> Bigger is ALWAYS better dontchaknow ! :-)
>>
>> Now if they'd just 'downsize' the vehicles themselves,
>> knock a ton off the weight and a few square meters
>> off the wind-resistance profile. In short, sedans
>> instead of SUVs and pickups.
>>
>
>What's wrong with the Mustang GT, or the Pontiac G8, or the various Nissan
>sports sedans and coupes, or the upcoming Dodge Challenger or......
I don't hate them ... indeed they're the best next step
for "SUV Nation". However they COULD be made even better,
especially in the fuel-economy category.
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Thu, 21 February 2008 18:53 |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:33:42 -0000, "Non-TweedlePug Voter"
<byebye [at] tweedleDims.com> wrote:
>On 20 Feb 2008, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
>>
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>> http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
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>> Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>>
>> POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>>
>> Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumped on
>> fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>>
>> Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposite of
>> a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At auto
>> body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting high-
>> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>>
>> "It has a smaller engine," said Kevin Johnson, managing partner of
>> Autoworld. "It takes less cylinders (and) less pistons, so it doesn't burn
>> as much gas."
>>
>
>Smaller car engine = smaller penis.
>
>Hey everybody, USians are getting smaller penises!
You MUST work for the oil industry ! :-)
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795321 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 22:23 |
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"Ad absurdum per aspera" <jtchew [at] california.com> wrote in message
news:e33a7c52-5b8b-45a4-bb47-dbdf0cd0d695 [at] m23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> converting high-
>>> power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
>> Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
>> friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
>> and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
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>
> I think that a V6 outgrowth of that engine appeared in the US as the
> 2.9 liter for a while, but I don't recall that the V4 ever did.
The V4 was present in Saab Sonetts in the US. My ex-wife had a Saab Sonett
III which had this engine. Fun little car. Accoring to Wikipedia, this
engine appeared in the Sonett V4 and Sonett III. May have been in other
Saab vehicles that came to the US as well, but I'm not sure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonett
-=- Tom
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795339 ] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 23:37 |
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> The V4 was present in Saab Sonetts in the US. May have been in other
> Saab vehicles that came to the US as well, but I'm not sure.
Indeed; this reminds me that it also appeared on these shores in the
Saab 96 in the late 1960s, shouldering aside the two-stroke inline-
three. I should've thought of that; the only 96 that I've been around
much carried a V4 badge. (Even with this somewhat more conventional
engine and a four-speed gearbox, the model remained a fairly eccentric
choice for American tastes; I seldom if ever see one on the street
anymore and don't recall them as having ever been common.)
Can't imagine retrofitting either engine to an American car meant for
a V8, of course. At some point you're better off buying a different
car that was born closer to your goal, unless making the modifications
is an end in itself.
--Joe
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795488 ] |
Fri, 22 February 2008 15:17 |
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On Feb 21, 5:37=A0pm, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc... [at] california.com>
wrote:
> > The V4 was present in Saab Sonetts in the US. =A0May have been in other
> > Saab vehicles that came to the US as well, but I'm not sure.
>
> Indeed; this reminds me that it also appeared on these shores in the
> Saab 96 in the late 1960s, =A0shouldering aside the two-stroke inline-
> three. =A0I should've thought of that; the only 96 that I've been around
> much carried a V4 badge. =A0(Even with this =A0somewhat more conventional
> engine and a four-speed gearbox, the model remained a fairly eccentric
> choice for American tastes; I seldom if ever see one on the street
> anymore and don't recall them as having ever been common.)
>
> Can't imagine retrofitting either engine to an American car meant for
> a V8, of course. =A0At some point you're better off buying a different
> car that was born closer to your goal, unless making the modifications
> is an end in itself.
>
> --Joe
I've seen at least two different 96s around locally, and I assume from
the blue smoke that both are two-strokes. They're noticable because
this is not an area where one is likely to see many older cars; the
Fabulous BeaterPorsche is the oldest vehicle I'm likely to see on any
given day.
nate
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795588 ] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 04:30 |
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On Feb 20, 11:23=A0am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <
> Idiots would do better to just drive slower but the media has brainwashed
> them against that.
You're one who proved that.
BTW, We took a long trip this week and the car owner insisted that I
didn't drive more than 5 MPH above the speed limit.
I have never been so scared in my life. Thirty cars passed me for
every vehicle that I passed. I was the most dangerous driver on the
road.
I finally let her take over ajd she boosted it up to a safer 80 - 85.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795589 ] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 04:32 |
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On Feb 20, 12:34=A0pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta... [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, N8N <njna... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2:23 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
> > <xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
>
> > > Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>
> > > POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>
> > > Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil jumpe=
d on
> > > fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> > > Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the opposi=
te of
> > > a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At =
auto
> > > body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting h=
igh-
> > > power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> > Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> > friggin' clue what he was talking about. =A0(unless people are importing=
> > and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
>
> > nate
>
> I saw that too and figured it's prolly just a typo. =A0He wrote I4 and
> the typist typed v4.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
SAAB used a Ford V4, I beleive, when they got rid of the popcorn
popper.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795590 ] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 04:39 |
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On Feb 20, 2:47=A0pm, Motorhead Lawyer <88.53... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 1:42 pm, N8N <njna... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 20, 2:23 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > > motorists are converting high-
> > > power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> > Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> > friggin' clue what he was talking about. =A0(unless people are importing=
> > and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
>
> Hey! =A0Saab Sonnets!
> --
> C.R. Krieger
Sxtxh, once owner of the "Pigge of Plastique" has reappeared as the
editor of a car club magazine.
I wonder if his long disappearance had anything to do with a female
student of his...
I missed him.
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| Re: Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines [message #795611 ] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 07:08 |
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"Studemania" <midlant [at] earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7ed8832b-d6a0-4b81-8075-f6e1afdc1cc7 [at] 64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 20, 12:34 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta... [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, N8N <njna... [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2:23 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
> > <xeton2... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.nbc4.com/automotive/15349520/detail.html
>
> > > Some Drivers Cut Gas Usage By Downsizing Engines
>
> > > POSTED: 11:36 pm EST February 19, 2008
>
> > > Oil prices closed at $100 per barrel on Monday. The price of oil
> > > jumped on
> > > fears that production would be cut, while demand would increase.
>
> > > Some drivers are fighting sky-high gas prices by opting for the
> > > opposite of
> > > a souped-up ride, swapping out their car engines for smaller ones. At
> > > auto
> > > body shops such as Autoworld in Beltsville, motorists are converting
> > > high-
> > > power V8 engines to gas-conserving V4s.
>
> > Once I saw that, I knew that the author of that article had no
> > friggin' clue what he was talking about. (unless people are importing
> > and restoring vintage Ford Taunuses...)
>
> > nate
>
> I saw that too and figured it's prolly just a typo. He wrote I4 and
> the typist typed v4.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> SAAB used a Ford V4, I beleive, when they got rid of the popcorn
> popper.
It's doubtful anyone's adapting any kind of 4 cylinder engine for use large
vehicles. The article sounds like it was poorly researched.
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