| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793249] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 05:11 |
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> You guys are really gonna enjoy this global warming thing when you
> start opening ports in the arctic circle.
Yup. And I'm particularly looking forward to watching the AmeriKKKan
state continue to become a desert.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793418 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 10:06 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
the sand to babble
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>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
>> You guys are really gonna enjoy this global warming thing when you
>> start opening ports in the arctic circle.
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> Yup. And I'm particularly looking forward to watching the AmeriKKKan
>state continue to become a desert.
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>
I've seen a couple of climatologists make a case for a wetter climate
in the great plains. This is predicated on warming causing the
prevailing west to east weather flow to shift to more north-south
patterns thus reducing the drying effect of the western mountains on
the interior.
Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793420 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 10:50 |
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> I've seen a couple of climatologists make a case for a wetter climate
> in the great plains. This is predicated on warming causing the
> prevailing west to east weather flow to shift to more north-south
> patterns thus reducing the drying effect of the western mountains on
> the interior.
The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
drout.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793523 ] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 08:52 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
the sand to babble
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>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
>> I've seen a couple of climatologists make a case for a wetter climate
>> in the great plains. This is predicated on warming causing the
>> prevailing west to east weather flow to shift to more north-south
>> patterns thus reducing the drying effect of the western mountains on
>> the interior.
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> The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
>drout.
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>
Which doesn't prove the models correct.
Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793524 ] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 10:29 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used
>> The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
>>drout.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> Which doesn't prove the models correct.
You had better prey that their prediction of prolonged deep drought for
the regions of the U.S. currently experiencing historic drought is just a
coincidence or else AmeriKKKa is going to lose more states than Florida in
the coming decades.
My expectation is that desertification of the Central U.S. will result in
the U.S. splitting into two separate nations, on either side of the new
desert, with the Northern progressive states joining Canada.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793527 ] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 12:50 |
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V-for-Vendicar wrote:
> "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used
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>>> The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
>>>drout.
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> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
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>>Which doesn't prove the models correct.
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> You had better prey
Not on you; you're too bitter. And retarded.
nate
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replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793578 ] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 22:05 |
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bg2oq354sm8o6s8dscfqr0kqr0uncs6nrm [at] 4ax.com...
> "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
> the sand to babble
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>>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
>>> I've seen a couple of climatologists make a case for a wetter climate
>>> in the great plains. This is predicated on warming causing the
>>> prevailing west to east weather flow to shift to more north-south
>>> patterns thus reducing the drying effect of the western mountains on
>>> the interior.
>>
>> The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
>>drout.
>>
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> Which doesn't prove the models correct.
>
> Swill
When will you idiots wake up. It's the sun, stupid.
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793586 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 01:20 |
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| More issues of GLobal Warming by Humans (Oh kooky-karen, a must-read for you...) [message #793587 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 01:29 |
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"Justin Case" <thinhthi [at] pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:Bu3rj.7659$0o7.5016 [at] newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
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> When will you idiots wake up. It's the sun, stupid.
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> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
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I wonder if Kooky-karen is going to read that article ?
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793588 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 01:30 |
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"Stuart 'Snake Finger' Aikens" <dsd01 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2216bbca6aaea0e498a1e5 [at] news.individual.net...
Justin Case <thinhthi [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
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> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bg2oq354sm8o6s8dscfqr0kqr0uncs6nrm [at] 4ax.com...
> > "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
> > the sand to babble
> >>
> >>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> >>> I've seen a couple of climatologists make a case for a wetter climate
> >>> in the great plains. This is predicated on warming causing the
> >>> prevailing west to east weather flow to shift to more north-south
> >>> patterns thus reducing the drying effect of the western mountains on
> >>> the interior.
> >>
> >> The models show the region will dry. And it is experiencing a record
> >>drout.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Which doesn't prove the models correct.
> >
> > Swill
>
> When will you idiots wake up. It's the sun, stupid.
>
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
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> It's always nice to read an editioral as a substitute for science.
> Especially when the first sentence raves about Al Gore, as if he invented
> the
> notion of man made global warming all by his lonesome and didn't have the
> support of the world's major scientific bodies (while there isn't a
> scientific body in the world supporting "the sun" idea.
Too bad for you, sonny, that science is NOT a "democratic" process where
consensus decides what is correct
ONLY THE DATA does that
And the Al-Gore-Global-Warming is TRUMPED by the GEOLOGICAL DATA
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793600 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 03:59 |
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> V-for-Vendicar wrote:
>> You had better pray
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel [at] roosters.net> wrote
> Not on you; you're too bitter. And retarded.
Pray to whatever Gawd you choose. We couldn't care less, your ongoing
destruction will continue as planned.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793601 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 04:02 |
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"Justin Case" <thinhthi [at] pacbell.net> wrote
> When will you idiots wake up. It's the sun, stupid.
>
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
Ahaahahahah, the fool posts a broken link to an Oped Piece written by an
uneducated KKKonservative fool.
You can't get dumber than that.
What a shame every attempt to link the sun to the observed recent warming
has utterly failed.
Solar output is constantly monitored.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793602 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 04:06 |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa [at] Hotmail.com> wrote
> Too bad for you, sonny, that science is NOT a "democratic" process where
> consensus decides what is correct
Scientists are generally rational people, and the data is the ultimate
arbitor of truth.
Your chronic failure is that there is absolutely <NO> data that implicates
the sun in the observed warming of the last 100 years. <NONE>
What claims do exist are known to be based on falsified data and falsified
analysis produced by members of the CATO propaganda organization and the
Heritage Front (Foundation) disinformation organizations.
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| Re: More issues of GLobal Warming by Humans (Oh kooky-karen, a must-read for you...) [message #793603 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 04:09 |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa [at] Hotmail.com> wrote
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
I particularly enjoyed reading the line..
"Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle,
the sun has been disturbingly quiet."
Ahahahahahaha... The current solar cycle started what. 3 weeks ago?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahaah......................
The Sun hasn't even had time to rotate once....
Ahahahahahahahah...............
Fuck you denialists are Fucking Ignorant Pieces of KKKonservative Filth.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793609 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 04:39 |
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In article <2N8rj.8117$612.3388 [at] read1.cgocable.net>,
V-for-Vendicar <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
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>"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa [at] Hotmail.com> wrote
>> Too bad for you, sonny, that science is NOT a "democratic" process where
>> consensus decides what is correct
>
> Scientists are generally rational people, and the data is the ultimate
>arbitor of truth.
The data in this case are statistics, which can be the opposite of
truth. Like the result of a technique that shows an exponential curve when fed
red noise.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793615 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 05:57 |
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> V-for-Vendicar <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
>> Scientists are generally rational people, and the data is the ultimate
>>arbitor of truth.
"Matthew T. Russotto" <russotto [at] grace.speakeasy.net> wrote
> The data in this case are statistics, which can be the opposite of
> truth.
The probability of that being true is near zero.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793627 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 07:59 |
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"Justin Case" <thinhthi [at] pacbell.net> used a stick in the sand to
babble
>> Which doesn't prove the models correct.
>>
>> Swill
>
>When will you idiots wake up. It's the sun, stupid.
>
>http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
About time somebody brought that up.
Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793628 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 08:00 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
the sand to babble
> Your chronic failure is that there is absolutely <NO> data that implicates
>the sun in the observed warming of the last 100 years. <NONE>
A hundred years worth of data is pretty much useless.
Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793647 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 09:20 |
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793650 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 09:26 |
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> About time somebody brought that up.
What a shame solar outuput has declined as the earth has heated.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793651 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 09:30 |
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> "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used
>> Your chronic failure is that there is absolutely <NO> data that
>> implicates
>>the sun in the observed warming of the last 100 years. <NONE>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> A hundred years worth of data is pretty much useless.
Well, lets see. If the earth absorbs energy and heats then that energy
has to come from somewhere. You claim it's the Sun, but the sun's output
has been observed to have declined as the earth has heated, now it doesn't
matter how many years worth of observations we have.
Unless of course your claim is that the energy needed to heat the earth
came from the sun in a form that is invisible to all forms of measurement.
I.E. by Magic.
Or unless your claim is that the energy just came from nowhere - a
violation of the fundamental laws of physics.
So which is it Swill? Are you a moron? Do you believe in Magic? Or are
you a Moron?
Those are the three possibilities here.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793653 ] |
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793654 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 09:58 |
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"Stuart 'Snake Finger' Aikens" <dsd01 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> Smart people know that there isn't anything called "global warming".
> It's just a bunch of hooey!
Like atomic theory and the sillyness of microscopic dots causing disease.
Could Snake Finger know more than all of the worlds scientists on this
matter?
I suppose it's possible, but would such a person call themselves "snake
finger" in the first place?
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793790 ] |
Sun, 10 February 2008 19:13 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
the sand to babble
>> "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used
>>> Your chronic failure is that there is absolutely <NO> data that
>>> implicates
>>>the sun in the observed warming of the last 100 years. <NONE>
>
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>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
>> A hundred years worth of data is pretty much useless.
>
>
> Well, lets see. If the earth absorbs energy and heats then that energy
>has to come from somewhere. You claim it's the Sun, but the sun's output
>has been observed to have declined as the earth has heated,
Not significantly and in any case the issue isn't solar output, it's
distance from the sun due to earth's off center, elliptical orbit.
> now it doesn't
>matter how many years worth of observations we have.
>
>
> Unless of course your claim is that the energy needed to heat the earth
>came from the sun in a form that is invisible to all forms of measurement.
>I.E. by Magic.
>
> Or unless your claim is that the energy just came from nowhere - a
>violation of the fundamental laws of physics.
>
> So which is it Swill? Are you a moron? Do you believe in Magic? Or are
>you a Moron?
Takes one, as they say, to know one.
> Those are the three possibilities here.
There are many possibilities. The planet's distance from the sun, the
effect of cosmic radiation on the upper atmosphere and albedo changes
caused by changing vegetation and ice cover.
Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793791 ] |
Sun, 10 February 2008 19:14 |
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> used a stick in
the sand to babble
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>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
>> About time somebody brought that up.
>
> What a shame solar outuput has declined as the earth has heated.
What a shame you haven't accounted for earth's decreasing distance
from the sun.
Swill
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| Another fine example of Profound KKKonservative Ignorance. [message #793815 ] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 00:41 |
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>> What a shame solar outuput has declined as the earth has heated.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> What a shame you haven't accounted for earth's decreasing distance
> from the sun.
20 years ago, the orbit of the earth and the other planets have been
computed forward billions of years, and the Earth's orbit doesn't
substantively change.
Here is a picture of the machine that did the calculations....
http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/graphics/solarsy s/SOLAR3.gif
References to the analysis can be found here.
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=4141
Once again, you demonstrate a remarkable ignorance of the world around
you.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #793889 ] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 05:37 |
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> Not significantly and in any case the issue isn't solar output, it's
> distance from the sun due to earth's off center, elliptical orbit.
Most AmeriKKKans think the sun rotates around the earth once a day.
The Swill here seems to think that it's once every 100,000 years.
In reality the earth once arround the sun every year, and currently North
AmeriKKKan winter occurrs when the Earth is <CLOSEST> to the sun.
Now while the distance to the Sun at closest approach doesn't change
substantivelly what does change is the time at which the earth reaches it's
closes point.parahelion. In the current situation (interglacial) the
northern hemispher with more continental area is closer to the sun, and tips
the balance toward warming.
As the time of closest passage slowly shifts so that the southern
hemisphere is more directly exposed to the sun when the earth is closest,
the balance is tipped toward cooler temps and by that time the earth will
have entered an ice age.
Factors that influence the time of glaciation and interglaciation are the
orientation of the earth's tilt relative to it's orbital plane - principally
caused by solar and lunar tidal forces acting on the oblate ring of rock and
water that make the earth fatter at the equator, and changes in the
obliquity (orientation) of the earth's orbit that result from the tug of
other planets on the earth. And over the logest term, minor changes in the
excentricity (flatness) of the earth's orbit.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill [at] gmail.com> wrote
> What a shame you haven't accounted for earth's decreasing distance
> from the sun.
20 years ago, the orbit of the earth and the other planets have been
computed forward billions of years, and the Earth's orbit doesn't
substantively change.
Here is a picture of the machine that did the calculations....
http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/graphics/solarsy s/SOLAR3.gif
References to the analysis can be found here.
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=4141
Once again, you demonstrate a remarkable ignorance of the world around
you.
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>> now it doesn't
>>matter how many years worth of observations we have.
>>
>>
>> Unless of course your claim is that the energy needed to heat the earth
>>came from the sun in a form that is invisible to all forms of measurement.
>>I.E. by Magic.
>>
>> Or unless your claim is that the energy just came from nowhere - a
>>violation of the fundamental laws of physics.
>>
>> So which is it Swill? Are you a moron? Do you believe in Magic? Or
>> are
>>you a Moron?
>
> Takes one, as they say, to know one.
>
>> Those are the three possibilities here.
>
> There are many possibilities. The planet's distance from the sun, the
> effect of cosmic radiation on the upper atmosphere and albedo changes
> caused by changing vegetation and ice cover.
>
> Swill
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #794045 ] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 21:53 |
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In article <nXdrj.8155$612.8153 [at] read1.cgocable.net>,
V-for-Vendicar <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
>
>"Stuart 'Snake Finger' Aikens" <dsd01 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>> Smart people know that there isn't anything called "global warming".
>> It's just a bunch of hooey!
>
> Like atomic theory and the sillyness of microscopic dots causing disease.
Like phlogiston and the lumineferous ether.
>
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #794056 ] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 22:42 |
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In article <ThQrj.21119$dA2.1009 [at] read2.cgocable.net>,
V-for-Vendicar <Justice [at] ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
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> The Swill here seems to think that it's once every 100,000 years.
I wouldn't expect you to know this, Village Idiot, but the Earth's
orbit is not the same year after year after year. We're not in an
ideal 2-body system.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: A fine example of the KKKonservative mind at work [message #794134 ] |
Wed, 13 February 2008 14:18 |
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"Matthew T. Russotto" <russotto [at] grace.speakeasy.net> wrote
> I wouldn't expect you to know this, Village Idiot, but the Earth's
> orbit is not the same year after year after year. We're not in an
> ideal 2-body system.
And that's why digital computers have been used to compute the earth's
orbit forward several billion years to check for orbital stability.
No substantive changes will occurr. Although there are minor orbital
variances, coincident with the onset ice ages and interglacials, as
mentioned earlier.
The smart fortwo city car will become available in electric form later this
year, after making its first appearance at the British International Motor
Show. The smart ev does away with the usual turbocharged three-cylinder
engine and instead gets a 30kW electric motor
Top speed is just 70mph, but the 0-30mph time is actually better than that
of the petrol fortwo at 6.5 seconds. The expected range is 72 Miles, and the
car is exempt from both Vehicle Excise Duty and congestion charges.
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