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| MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793197] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 16:43 |
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793200 ] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 17:23 |
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"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oq0hq3h8jqr819jguf0v8pkj3l9b17c5v1 [at] 4ax.com...
> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving
> is
> a shopping cart.
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> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108-s1.article
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> Do they or don't they?
> Reporter checks to see how many folks put food carts away
I wouldn't let the stores off without some of the blame. The local
Wal*Marts Super Centers are horrible. Many people leave the carts
scattered all over the lot, the shopping cart corrals are poorly
positioned, and the corrals are often stuffed so full that you can't
get another cart into them. It appears to me that they have people
dedicated to picking up carts, but they seem to stand around a lot
(and they even have the cool little cart mover robot things...).
Another of my pet peeves is with the people who park in the pick-up
lane right outside the door. Maybe if the pick-up lanes weren't always
blocked the cool lazy people would use them and not have to take the
carts out into the lot and leave them scattered around.
Just for the record - I always at a minimum put my cart into a corral.
At the local grocery store, I always put them back inside (the lot is
small and crowded).
Ed
> January 31, 2008
> By IRV LEAVITT
>
> Gabriel McAtee says folks are meaner on the North Shore, and if you
> want proof, you can find it in the parking lot of Dominick's Finer
> Foods, 1822 Willow Road, Northfield.
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> He said shoppers there leave their shopping carts where they please,
> shunning the cart corrals.
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> "They have a certain attitude that the world owes them something,"
> the
> former resident of Rogers Park and small-town Oklahoma complained.
> "They pay taxes, I know, and they pay a lot of taxes. And they pay
> people to take care of their houses and gardens.
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> "There's a sense that, no matter what it is, someone else will take
> care of it."
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> After watching two people heedlessly let their grocery carts roll
> off
> -- one nicking McAtee's car -- the three-year Winnetka resident
> decided to watch for about 20 minutes a few weeks ago to see just
> how
> widespread the suburban disdain for cart corrals is.
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> He reports that of about a dozen exiting shoppers, four men and
> three
> women drove off without returning the carts to their nests. One man
> actually left a cart propped up against McAtee's car, he said.
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> When he complained, the shopper "showed me the universal hand signal
> indicating he was displeased with my presence, and drove off with
> his
> hand out the window emphasizing his unhappiness," McAtee wrote in a
> letter to Pioneer Press.
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> While some people may consider shopping carts an inconsequential
> subject for newspaper inquiry, Dominick's employees Jody Prathman
> and
> Robert Rosen are probably among them.
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> Rosen said some shoppers are just spoiled. He estimates between 8
> and
> 15 percent of carts remain uncorralled.
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> One recent evening, however, Pioneer Press watched 21 of 22 shoppers
> corral their carts. The lone reprobate was a young woman who fled in
> a
> compact car, a cell phone to her ear and her cart on the painted
> island.
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> Late on the afternoon of Jan. 24, two dozen straight shoppers all
> put
> their carts away, struggling against bitter winds on a zero-degree
> day.
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> The following afternoon, however, with the temperature a
> comparatively
> balmy 20 degrees, at least 15 carts were abandoned in a two-hour
> period.
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> One young woman loaded her Honda Odyssey, took a quick look at a
> corral about 30 feet away, then jammed her basket against another
> one
> in the space alongside her SUV.
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> All the perpetrators seemed under 50, most in their 30s.
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> Retired WLS-TV reporter Bud Photopolus patiently put his basket
> away.
> "We're all old-timers," the Northbrook resident said. "Our mothers
> taught us how to behave."
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> Those who left their carts didn't want to chat.
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> But one women who did put her cart away said she only corralled it
> because she didn't want it to roll back and hit her own car.
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> "Or anybody else's, too," she added quickly.
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> All Friday's footloose carts had something in common: They were left
> where they couldn't possibly roll off and hit the cars of their
> users:
> handicapped spaces, islands, empty spaces, against the curbs on the
> ends of aisles.
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> Deerfield-based micro-economist Aaron Gruen, an authority on
> shopping
> centers, said Friday he couldn't profile a typical cart corral
> scoffer.
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> "It's not a topic I ever considered before," he said. "But richer
> people value their time more. It would be interesting to see if in
> the
> Dominick's in poorer areas, people put their carts away more or
> not."
>
> McAtee said people make things harder for Dominick's employees
> because
> they just don't care at all about people they consider them to be of
> a
> lower class.
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> "What kind of example are they leaving for the next generation?" he
> asked. "People want the North Shore to have traditional values, but
> they're going to turn it into a place ... where it's every man for
> himself."
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793202 ] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 17:36 |
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In article <oq0hq3h8jqr819jguf0v8pkj3l9b17c5v1 [at] 4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> a shopping cart.
Allowing the cart to roam free and/or allowing it to touch another
person's car is MFFY. Simply not putting it in the collector thing is
not.FYI: When I was in high school I spent a lot of time in all sorts of
weather collecting carts from a vast parking lot. It was my job, I did
it.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793236 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 03:21 |
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On Feb 5, 9:43=A0am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> a shopping cart.
>
> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
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<snip article>
Hell, they're just as MFFY and Slothy *inside* the store as well.
They park the cart in the middle of the aisle and stare cluelessly at
the items on the shelves, with a look that would threaten bodily harm
if you dare approach the cart to move it.
They will take the cart piled above its capacity and butt their way in
front of some hapless sod with just one loaf of bread in his hand, and
pay with coupons and $1's and haggle with the clerk over each price
until the manager threatens to summon security...all the while the guy
behind with the one loaf of bread is watching the mold grow in it.
And in the lot, a sighting of backup lights results in MFFY stopping
right by that space until that space opens, despite multiple open
spaces just feet down the lot.
The male instinct in me KNOWS that shopping is not a sport...it's a
total Charlie Foxtrot.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793242 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 03:44 |
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793246 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 04:18 |
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On Feb 5, 9:23 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi... [at] removemindspring.com>
wrote:
> Just for the record - I always at a minimum put my cart into a corral.
> At the local grocery store, I always put them back inside (the lot is
> small and crowded).
>
Just to be different, if I see a roaming cart on my way INto the
store, I'll take it with me sometimes.
If nothing else, I get a bigger smile from the membership checker at
Sam's.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793250 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 05:14 |
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<websurf1 [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:416e24e1-819c-4480-9ec7-5ba3c5e9cdfd [at] s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 9:23 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi... [at] removemindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just for the record - I always at a minimum put my cart into a corral.
>> At the local grocery store, I always put them back inside (the lot is
>> small and crowded).
>>
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> Just to be different, if I see a roaming cart on my way INto the
> store, I'll take it with me sometimes.
> If nothing else, I get a bigger smile from the membership checker at
> Sam's.
Sam's used to put you into a contest if you brought a cart in from the lot.
In my area, Sam's Club seems to do a much better job than Wal*Mart of
keeping the lots tidy. The Sam's nearest my home has conveniently located,
huge, covered, cart corrals.
Ed
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793332 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 14:54 |
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On Feb 5, 9:44=A0pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:36:04 -0600, tetraethylleadREMOVET... [at] yahoo.com
>
> (Brent P) wrote:
> >In article <oq0hq3h8jqr819jguf0v8pkj3l9b17c... [at] 4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal w=
rote:
> >> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> >> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> >> a shopping cart.
>
> >Allowing the cart to roam free and/or allowing it to touch another
> >person's car is MFFY. Simply not putting it in the collector thing is
> >not.
>
> IAWTP.
> --
> Please don't give financial rewards to trolls -
> DO NOT CLICK on any URLs containing "calrog.com"
Around here (Northeast MA, Southern NH) the standard issue move is to
keep the cart from moving and be on your way. That's usually done by
sticking it onto an island, or up in a snowbank. Having worked at a
supermaket as a kid, and knowing plenty of kids who made their money
being "lot boys" - a.k.a. the guys who round up the carts, I'm fine
with this policy.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793333 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 15:01 |
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On Feb 5, 9:21 pm, MLOM <gr... [at] netzero.net> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 9:43 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> > roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> > a shopping cart.
>
> > http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
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> <snip article>
>
> Hell, they're just as MFFY and Slothy *inside* the store as well.
>
> They park the cart in the middle of the aisle and stare cluelessly at
> the items on the shelves, with a look that would threaten bodily harm
> if you dare approach the cart to move it.
The look is a bluff. Many of my friends claim I walk too fast,
especially when shopping (the exception seems to be other in-shape
males who, like me, are trying to get this chore done and move on with
the day). I don't even slow down when coming up on these carts, I
just slide them out of my way and up against the side of one of the
isles. I've heard a "while I never" or "sure, help yourself" once or
twice, under someone's breath, but have never been confronted or even
addressed in a tone and volume that made it clear I was intended to
hear it. On a rare day I'll reply to the mumbled comment and attempt
the discussion regarding what is less considerate, blocking the isle
or unblocking the isle, but they rarely seem to get it and more often
than not I skip the BS & continue on my way.
Occasionally I'll hear an actual apology, intended for me to hear.
This is usually from someone who actually didn't realize they were
blocking the isle until I had to move their cart, and they appear
genuine. I always answer that with a nice "no worries" or something
of the sort. 90% of the time it's an elderly woman, I think the rest
of society tends to have trouble admitting a mistake so readily to a
stranger.
> They will take the cart piled above its capacity and butt their way in
> front of some hapless sod with just one loaf of bread in his hand, and
> pay with coupons and $1's and haggle with the clerk over each price
> until the manager threatens to summon security...all the while the guy
> behind with the one loaf of bread is watching the mold grow in it.
That's the same one who waits until given the total, supervising every
item being bagged, and THEN starts digging for the checkbook, is it
not? You know the one with the checks, they've got 18 items and
coupons on the 10 items or less lane.
> And in the lot, a sighting of backup lights results in MFFY stopping
> right by that space until that space opens, despite multiple open
> spaces just feet down the lot.
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> The male instinct in me KNOWS that shopping is not a sport...it's a
> total Charlie Foxtrot.
Indeed it is.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793340 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 19:12 |
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DanKMTB [at] gmail.com wrote:
> That's the same one who waits until given the total, supervising every
> item being bagged, and THEN starts digging for the checkbook, is it
> not? You know the one with the checks, they've got 18 items and
> coupons on the 10 items or less lane.
That's why stores should dedicate lanes to checks only and make the rest
of them cash or credit. The people who complain can just go to a nearby
ATM, withdraw the cash, note it in their checkbook, and use the cash
instead.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793342 ] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 19:26 |
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On Feb 6, 1:12 pm, Arif Khokar <akhokar1... [at] wvu.edu> wrote:
> DanK... [at] gmail.com wrote:
> > That's the same one who waits until given the total, supervising every
> > item being bagged, and THEN starts digging for the checkbook, is it
> > not? You know the one with the checks, they've got 18 items and
> > coupons on the 10 items or less lane.
>
> That's why stores should dedicate lanes to checks only and make the rest
> of them cash or credit. The people who complain can just go to a nearby
> ATM, withdraw the cash, note it in their checkbook, and use the cash
> instead.
I'd be happy if they'd just enforce the freaking minimum limit.
Around here it's usually little old ladies, retired, with nothing else
to do anyway. Chatting with the teller will be one of the high points
of their day, and they're going to milk every minute they can. There
are people on a lunch break, such as myself, losing pay by the minute
to grab a sandwich and a drink, or a salad and a drink. 2 items, cash
or bankcard in hand. That is what an express lane is for, be the
minimum 8 items or 12. It's rude to make everyone else sit in line
for a purchase that will take under a minute in the express line, but
the teller won't enforce the limit rule or end the conversation for
fear of being rude. So, to avoid being "rude" to one person, which
wouldn't really be rude anyway, they end up being rude for real to
everyone else in line.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793360 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 01:26 |
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websurf1 [at] cox.net wrote:
>On Feb 5, 9:23 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi... [at] removemindspring.com>
>wrote:
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>> Just for the record - I always at a minimum put my cart into a corral.
>> At the local grocery store, I always put them back inside (the lot is
>> small and crowded).
>>
>
>Just to be different, if I see a roaming cart on my way INto the
>store, I'll take it with me sometimes.
Wow, someone with some decency and respect!
You're a dying breed.
>If nothing else, I get a bigger smile from the membership checker at
>Sam's.
--
People don't confuse me with someone who cares.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793403 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 07:56 |
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MLOM:
> They will take the cart piled above its capacity and butt their way in
> front of some hapless sod with just one loaf of bread in his hand, and
> pay with coupons and $1's and haggle with the clerk over each price
> until the manager threatens to summon security...all the while the guy
> behind with the one loaf of bread is watching the mold grow in it.
You were in the, "express lane," (or similar worded creature), I take
it? ;)
--
Sincerely,
The New World Order.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793406 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 08:06 |
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On Feb 6, 10:56 pm, necromancer
<55_sux [at] worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> wrote:
> MLOM:
>
> > They will take the cart piled above its capacity and butt their way in
> > front of some hapless sod with just one loaf of bread in his hand, and
> > pay with coupons and $1's and haggle with the clerk over each price
> > until the manager threatens to summon security...all the while the guy
> > behind with the one loaf of bread is watching the mold grow in it.
>
> You were in the, "express lane," (or similar worded creature), I take
> it? ;)
Another nice thing about a small town - if you have one or two items,
folks generally let you ahead of them. Heck, I do the same thing,
unless it's a time-critical shopping trip.
I usually drag a cart in with me when I go in, generally return the
cart I used to the inside, and if I find a cart lying around the lot,
and it's on my way back to the car, I'll stick it into a corral.
That's all harder to do when I have to wrangle the kids, but possible.
I don't mind too much if folks don't take the cart to a corral, unless
they leave it in a way that makes parking spaces unusable. Not often,
but it happens.
Really, the only MFFYs that bug me much are the IBJAMs that park right
in front of the door(s) blocking traffic and entrance/exit to the
stores. Honked at one tonight.
E.P.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793436 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 16:12 |
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793446 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 17:46 |
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On Feb 7, 1:06 am, Ed Pirrero <gcmschem... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Another nice thing about a small town - if you have one or two items,
> folks generally let you ahead of them. Heck, I do the same thing,
> unless it's a time-critical shopping trip.
I make it a point to do so. Of course, I usually *am* the guy with
one or two items, but if I have four, I will wave the guy with the
one loaf of bread ahead of me just to show others how it is done.
--
C.R. Krieger
(the polite shopper)
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793458 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 20:19 |
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On Feb 5, 8:43 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> a shopping cart.
>
> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
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> Do they or don't they?
> Reporter checks to see how many folks put food carts away
>
Fork it. Nobody pays me to put away the damn shopping carts.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793462 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 20:49 |
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The vile and infidel swine and swine sodomizer, "Speeders & Drunk
Drivers are MURDERERS", in an affront to Allah (Praises be into His
Name) and all who are Righetous and Holy left this blasphemy in
rec.autos.driving:
>On Feb 5, 8:43 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
>> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
>> a shopping cart.
>>
>> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
>>
>> Do they or don't they?
>> Reporter checks to see how many folks put food carts away
>>
>
>Fork it. Nobody pays me to put away the damn shopping carts.
Have you ever driven a car faster than the posted speed limit? You're
continued evasion of this issue is duly noted, you infidel.
--
Imam Widdershins
LLB is a Deadly Sin
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793463 ] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 20:53 |
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SFB spewed:
>On Feb 5, 8:43 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
>> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
>> a shopping cart.
>>
>> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
>>
>> Do they or don't they?
>> Reporter checks to see how many folks put food carts away
>>
>
>Fork it. Nobody pays me to put away the damn shopping carts.
Nobody pays you to spew your crap all over usenet either, you american
(sic) fool. Yet you continue to do so anyway.
OBTW, when are you going to own up to the TRVTH and answer the Good
Imam's inquiry, you goob?
--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS (a.k.a. SFB) admits to being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:
"> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?
Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."
Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff [at] posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg
Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793489 ] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 01:38 |
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On Feb 7, 12:56=A0am, necromancer
<55_sux [at] worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> wrote:
> =A0MLOM:
>
> > They will take the cart piled above its capacity and butt their way in
> > front of some hapless sod with just one loaf of bread in his hand, and
> > pay with coupons and $1's and haggle with the clerk over each price
> > until the manager threatens to summon security...all the while the guy
> > behind with the one loaf of bread is watching the mold grow in it.
>
> You were in the, "express lane," (or similar worded creature), I take
> it? =A0 ;)
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> The New World Order.
Nah...the 'express' lane is the one blocked by Welfare Boy
demonstrating his dexterity: scratching lottery tickets with one hand
and his arse with the other.
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793690 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 20:50 |
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Around 2/7/2008 11:19 AM, Aunt Judy (AKA Pride of Diarrhea, AKA
"Saddam") <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 8:43 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt... [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
>> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
>> a shopping cart.
>>
>> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/news/767599,ev-cartcorr al-013108...
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>> Do they or don't they?
>> Reporter checks to see how many folks put food carts away
>>
>
> Fork it. Nobody pays me to put away the damn shopping carts.
You can't even get a job as a lot boy at your local supermarket? Damn,
that's pathetic.
--
~/Garth
"I am patient with stupidity
but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell
(Ventis secundis, tene cursum.)
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793691 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 21:38 |
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In article <oq0hq3h8jqr819jguf0v8pkj3l9b17c5v1 [at] 4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
> a shopping cart.
Here ya go Scott, a fine example of MFFY cart leaving:
http://blip.tv/file/657910/
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Sat, 09 February 2008 21:55 |
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| Re: MFFYs at the Supermarket [message #793697 ] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 22:02 |
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In article <5n4sq31bvlgt52m11kl3o10braolsqvq7j [at] 4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:38:46 -0600, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS [at] yahoo.com
> (Brent P) wrote:
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>>In article <oq0hq3h8jqr819jguf0v8pkj3l9b17c5v1 [at] 4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>> As noted many times in the past, MFFY behavior is not limited to the
>>> roads. MFFYs act like MFFYs even when the vehicle they are driving is
>>> a shopping cart.
>>
>>Here ya go Scott, a fine example of MFFY cart leaving:
>>
>>http://blip.tv/file/657910/
>
> Wow, you guys have Bristol Farms grocery stores too?
We don't.
> I thought they were only in SoCal...
I guess you thought right.
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