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Re: MIT researchers fight gridlock with Linux [message #793163] Tue, 05 February 2008 05:04
midlant  
On Feb 3, 8:54=A0pm, David Poole <dont.email... [at] microsoft.com> wrote:
> Scott in SoCal wrote:
> >On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:39:42 -0800 (PST), Larry G
> ><gross.la... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>At the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), researchers are
> >>testing a Linux-based automotive telematics system intended to reduce
> >>traffic congestion. CarTel is a distributed, GPS-enabled mobile sensor
> >>network that uses WiFi "opportunistically" to exploit brief windows of
> >>coverage to update a central traffic analysis program.
>
> >Don't they know that's illegal?
>
> >BTW, there was another project similar to this that I stumbled across
> >a few years ago. Basically, some Computer Science professor had a
> >semester project where students were supposed to design a telematics
> >system very similar to the above. I forget which university was
> >offering this course - it might even have been MIT. What I do remember
> >is that its connectivity was also based on exploiting unprotected WiFi
> >access points in order to report back to a central server. It wasn't
> >illegal back then, but the morality was still highly suspect, and I
> >was very surprised to find a University professor basing a class
> >project around the idea of stealing Internet acvess. Another key
> >feature of that system was that each node would report its location
> >and speed back to the central server in order to provide congestion
> >data which was then shared in aggregate amongst all the nodes in the
> >system, allowing them to make better routing decisions.
>
> >When I mentioned the idea of such a system to r.a.d at the time, the
> >response was overwhelmingly negative. As I recall, Brent was
> >particularly vociferous regarding the potential privacy abuses. :)
>
> Since when has academia been immune to the effects of stupidity? I
> recall years ago a good friend of mine, one of the most gifted
> developers I've known, gave a speech on the benefits of data
> compression for one of his classes. The professor, now the head of the
> department at the university, asked of what benefit data compression
> would be.
>
> A PhD or two doesn't mean that the possessor of such is intelligent;
> only that they've supposedly been educated.
>
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Years ago - well over fifteen - I was talking to my city coulcilor in
a large California City. He had proposed a plan whereby traffic jams
would be avoided by sensors tied to a compueter in city hall, or
whereever, controlling the traffic lights.
He figured it to be a real vote-getter.
I said to him, "That's impossible."
He said, "You know it and I know it, but by the time it's a proven
failure, I will be time-limited out of office.
Re: MIT researchers fight gridlock with Linux [message #793188 ] Tue, 05 February 2008 15:17
Cameron Kaiser  
Studemania <midlant [at] earthlink.net> writes:

>Years ago - well over fifteen - I was talking to my city coulcilor in
>a large California City. He had proposed a plan whereby traffic jams
>would be avoided by sensors tied to a compueter in city hall, or
>whereever, controlling the traffic lights.
>He figured it to be a real vote-getter.
>I said to him, "That's impossible."
>He said, "You know it and I know it, but by the time it's a proven
>failure, I will be time-limited out of office.

Now that is a smart politician. Too bad he doesn't sound like he was
a good one ;-)

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Re: MIT researchers fight gridlock with Linux [message #793256 ] Wed, 06 February 2008 05:59
David Poole  
Studemania wrote:
>
>Years ago - well over fifteen - I was talking to my city coulcilor in
>a large California City. He had proposed a plan whereby traffic jams
>would be avoided by sensors tied to a compueter in city hall, or
>whereever, controlling the traffic lights.
>He figured it to be a real vote-getter.
>I said to him, "That's impossible."
>He said, "You know it and I know it, but by the time it's a proven
>failure, I will be time-limited out of office.

LMAO. Sounds like how a lot of people make it into office. :-)

Billary's Health Care, anyone?


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