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| Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792217] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 04:07 |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge one
of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teenage
sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
The state police request Wednesday to the St. Clair County state's attorney
came just hours after a coroner's jury ruled the Nov. 23 collision
involving Trooper Matt Mitchell was reckless homicide.
Mitchell was on Interstate 64 en route to another accident site when his
car swerved across the median and slammed into an oncoming car, state
police have said. The occupants, Jessica Uhl, 18, and her sister Kelli, 13,
died at the scene.
A state police expert in accident reconstruction told the coroner's jury
that Mitchell was driving 126 mph when he lost control of his car, and that
Mitchell's car hit the sisters' vehicle at 102 mph, the coroner's office
said.
(snip)
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He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged with
anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excuse
for ever doing 126 mph.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792218 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 04:34 |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>
> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>
> updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
>
> BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge one
> of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teenage
> sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
>
> The state police request Wednesday to the St. Clair County state's attorney
> came just hours after a coroner's jury ruled the Nov. 23 collision
> involving Trooper Matt Mitchell was reckless homicide.
>
> Mitchell was on Interstate 64 en route to another accident site when his
> car swerved across the median and slammed into an oncoming car, state
> police have said. The occupants, Jessica Uhl, 18, and her sister Kelli, 13,
> died at the scene.
>
> A state police expert in accident reconstruction told the coroner's jury
> that Mitchell was driving 126 mph when he lost control of his car, and that
> Mitchell's car hit the sisters' vehicle at 102 mph, the coroner's office
> said.
>
> (snip)
>
> ---------------------
>
> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged with
> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excuse
> for ever doing 126 mph.
Of course. Anyone traveling over 110 MPH is just askin' for it.
*snort*
Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? I'm
not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
(yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
road car) without ever killing anyone. Some of them on public roads.
Legally.
nate
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replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792219 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 04:43 |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged with
> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excuse
> for ever doing 126 mph.
You complain that everyone is a criminal coddler. They when someone
does get charged you whine that you're surprised they got charged. You
are just a chronic whiner
And tell ya' what...
Next time you see someone going that fast you have my permission to jump
out in front of his car and tell him to stop.
Take care,
Rich
God bless the USA
--
That's one of the problems in this country
The nuts don't know they're nuts.
--Jeff Foxworthy
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792232 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:01 |
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Rich Piehl wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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>> ---------------------
>>
>> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged
>> with anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no
>> excuse for ever doing 126 mph.
>
> You complain that everyone is a criminal coddler. They when someone
> does get charged you whine that you're surprised they got charged. You
> are just a chronic whiner
>
> And tell ya' what...
>
> Next time you see someone going that fast you have my permission to jump
> out in front of his car and tell him to stop.
>
> Take care,
> Rich
>
> God bless the USA
>
Shame on you. You want someone to mess up a nice car mowing down this
sod? Now if it's an articulated with a stout set of roo bars on the
front, then that's okay.
--
Comrade Otto The Duke Of Yamamoto
http://mryamamoto.50megs.com
'The Quality goes in before the Name goes on'
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792233 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:15 |
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792234 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:24 |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A2FCCB91D4BFriemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70...
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>
> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>
> updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
>
> BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge one
> of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teenage
> sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
>
> The state police request Wednesday to the St. Clair County state's
> attorney
> came just hours after a coroner's jury ruled the Nov. 23 collision
> involving Trooper Matt Mitchell was reckless homicide.
>
> Mitchell was on Interstate 64 en route to another accident site when his
> car swerved across the median and slammed into an oncoming car, state
> police have said. The occupants, Jessica Uhl, 18, and her sister Kelli,
> 13,
> died at the scene.
>
> A state police expert in accident reconstruction told the coroner's jury
> that Mitchell was driving 126 mph when he lost control of his car, and
> that
> Mitchell's car hit the sisters' vehicle at 102 mph, the coroner's office
> said.
>
> (snip)
>
> ---------------------
>
> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged with
> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excuse
> for ever doing 126 mph.
We had a similar one here in N.C. last month, only the cop wasn't the one
who hit the sisters, it was the guy he was chasing. Doesn't really matter
though, these two poor girls are still dead.
Sisters, Suspect Die in High-Speed Police Chase
Posted: Dec. 1, 2007
Updated: Dec. 2, 2007
Franklinton - Two sisters were killed Saturday afternoon after they were
caught in the middle of a high-speed police chase that spanned two counties.
The man fleeing police also died in the crash.
The 15-mile chase started in Franklinton on N.C. Highway 56 and proceeded
north on U.S. Highway 15 near Creedmoor into Granville County - where it
ended.
Franklinton police officer Michael Dunlap observed Guy Christopher Ayscue,
38, of Henderson, driving very erratically in a Pontiac, according to
police. Dunlap tried to stop Ayscue using his lights and siren, but Ayscue
drove off, and Dunlap pursued.
Ayscue was traveling north and went to pass another vehicle in a no-passing
zone on a hill when he hit a 1999 Kia head-on, according to police.
Linsay Erin Lunsford, 18, was driving the Kia with her little sister, Maggie
Rose Lunsford, 9, in the passenger seat. The sisters were driving to their
father's house after a shopping trip at Wal-Mart.
They were wearing seat belts, according to police, but they did not survive
the crash.
Police estimate Ayscue was driving 90 mph when he hit the sisters' car. He
also died in the crash.
"There were no skid marks," said patrol Sgt. R.P. Hargrove. "No time to
brake."
The sisters were two of six children in their family. Linsay was a student
at UNC-Greensboro and was studying to become a teacher, family members said.
Maggie, a fourth-grader at Mount Energy Elementary School, won a trophy at a
karate tournament earlier in the day Saturday.
Family members of the sisters said they want to know how the chase went so
far and why police pursued such a long distance.
"We've lost our family members. [The police] felt the need to chase
somebody. We don't even know why they were chasing him, but they killed her.
They took my sisters, and I'll never get to touch them again," said Liz Lee,
the girls' sister.
Franklinton police said an investigation into the chase is under way.
Franklinton Police Chief Ray Gilliam said Dunlap, who joined the department
in 2005 and is the agency's traffic and K-9 officer, was placed on
administrative leave with pay, per standard procedure when civilians are
seriously injured during police activity.
Franklinton has a police pursuit policy, and they will be checking to make
sure that policy was properly followed, Gilliam said. Police said they wish
they knew why Ayscue would not just pull over.
Ayscue was to face misdemeanor charges of speeding in court in Vance County
on Jan. 3, 2008. Court records show he was charged under state statute
20-141(J1), which covers driving 15 mph over the speed limit or above 80
mph.
The sisters' family members are trying to find out why a shopping trip had
to end so tragically.
"I can't even describe the loss my mother's going through right now over
something so senseless," Lee said. "And to take away two people who had so
much life and so much ambition and dreams . there just aren't words."
http://www.localtechwire.com/news/local/story/2112099/
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792235 ] |
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792236 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:45 |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
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>Of course. Anyone traveling over 110 MPH is just askin' for it.
>
>*snort*
>
>Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? I'm
>not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
>but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
>(yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
>road car) without ever killing anyone. Some of them on public roads.
>Legally.
I'm not certain those numbers are arbitrary. First off, as it's a
police cruiser, there's a very reasonable chance there's a "black box"
in it to report figures just like this.
Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
velocity when running mobile radar. Last time I was in a patrol
vehicle receiving a ticket to the policeman's ball, I noticed the read
out on the radar unit not only had my speed, but the patrol vehicle's
speed as well.
--
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792237 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:53 |
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In article <fnblc0013jb [at] news2.newsguy.com>, Nate Nagel wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>>
>> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
>> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>>
>> updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
>>
>> BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge one
>> of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teenage
>> sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
So, to all the resident trolls and those who think I wasn't telling the
truth about how IL state troopers drive, there ya go.
> Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? I'm
> not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
> but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
> (yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
> road car) without ever killing anyone. Some of them on public roads.
> Legally.
If he was driving like many of the IL state troopers I've seen in
action, he was driving unsafely. IL state troopers are unsafe at any
speed. I've seen them make everything from 35 to 110mph needlessly
dangerous.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792238 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 06:56 |
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In article <c5sip3hb1idemgl096uc73ncqi4r7cnhho [at] 4ax.com>, richard wrote:
>>Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? I'm
>>not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
>>but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
>>(yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
>>road car) without ever killing anyone. Some of them on public roads.
>>Legally.
> Those numbers aren't arbitrary. They can calculate the speed at impact
> fairly accurately. Since that speed was lower than actual, it probably
> means he had his foot on the brake in an attempt to regain control.
> Which was totally stupid.
I think Nate is refering to the resident troll's numbers. Not the ones
caclulated for the collision.
> Uh well. I can plead guilty to a bit of high speed pursuit of
> happiness myself.
> Vehicle was a 1963 Plymouth Belvidere 318 with no modifications.
> On I-275 in Cincinnati I just wanted to see what I could do with it.
> The speedometer showed 110mph when I felt the fan belt slip and backed
> off.
> At the ripe old age of 16, in a 1966 ford fairlane, I had the speed up
> at 100mph. Years later, In a 1969 dodge coronet stationwagon { yes I
> said stationwagon } 383 holly 750 quad, I had it at over 100 mph
> several times.
Fastest I'll ever admit going on a public road is 118mph in Audi A4 in
Northern Germany. Safest driving I've ever done. Disciplined KRETP is
just wonderful.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792240 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 07:52 |
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["Followup-To:" header set to misc.transport.road.]
On 2008-01-25, richard <I.dont.care [at] do.you> wrote:
> officers want to see the man tried. Usually they put the officer on
> administrative leave, which means desk duty, paid vacation or total
> suspension. But rarely prosecuted.
126 MPH.
That's beyond the pale as far as I'm concerned...
Doesn't matter if you have your lights and sirens on, you are still breaking
the law if you are not driving safely. And killing someone at 100 MPH after
having SLOWED DOWN from almost 130? If the officer wasn't going to be
prosecuted, there'd probably be a riot. And rightfully so, I believe.
--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792244 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 14:57 |
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EAST COAST HIVE MIND wrote:
> Rich Piehl wrote:
>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged
>>> with anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is
>>> no excuse for ever doing 126 mph.
>>
>> You complain that everyone is a criminal coddler. They when someone
>> does get charged you whine that you're surprised they got charged.
>> You are just a chronic whiner
>>
>> And tell ya' what...
>>
>> Next time you see someone going that fast you have my permission to
>> jump out in front of his car and tell him to stop.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Rich
>>
>> God bless the USA
>>
>
>
> Shame on you. You want someone to mess up a nice car mowing down this
> sod? Now if it's an articulated with a stout set of roo bars on the
> front, then that's okay.
>
LOL! Or a snow plow?
Take care,
Rich
God bless the USA
--
That's one of the problems in this country
The nuts don't know they're nuts.
--Jeff Foxworthy
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792248 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 15:24 |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A2FCCB91D4BFriemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70...
> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged with
> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excuse
> for ever doing 126 mph.
Yes there is. You're an idiot.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792259 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 16:43 |
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On Jan 25, 12:29=A0am, richard <I.dont.c... [at] do.you> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:34:23 -0500, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> >Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>
> >> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
> >> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>
> >> updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
>
> >> BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge o=
ne
> >> of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teena=
ge
> >> sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
>
> >> The state police request Wednesday to the St. Clair County state's atto=
rney
> >> came just hours after a coroner's jury ruled the Nov. 23 collision
> >> involving Trooper Matt Mitchell was reckless homicide.
>
> >> Mitchell was on Interstate 64 en route to another accident site when hi=
s
> >> car swerved across the median and slammed into an oncoming car, state
> >> police have said. The occupants, Jessica Uhl, 18, and her sister Kelli,=
13,
> >> died at the scene.
>
> >> A state police expert in accident reconstruction told the coroner's jur=
y
> >> that Mitchell was driving 126 mph when he lost control of his car, and =
that
> >> Mitchell's car hit the sisters' vehicle at 102 mph, the coroner's offic=
e
> >> said.
>
> >> (snip)
>
> >> ---------------------
>
> >> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged w=
ith
> >> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excus=
e
> >> for ever doing 126 mph.
>
> >Of course. =A0Anyone traveling over 110 MPH is just askin' for it.
>
> >*snort*
>
> >Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? =A0I'=
m
> >not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
> >but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
> >(yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
> >road car) without ever killing anyone. =A0Some of them on public roads.
> >Legally.
>
> >nate
>
> Those numbers aren't arbitrary. They can calculate the speed at impact
> fairly accurately. Since that speed was lower than actual, it probably
> means he had his foot on the brake in an attempt to regain control.
> Which was totally stupid.
That wasn't what I was implying - although I have doubts that they can
actually use three significant figures. My point was that SADDAM is
implying that Oh Noes! at 125.9 MPH if you keep accelerating that
certain death is imminent is, um, what's the word I'm looking for?
Stupid?
nate
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792264 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 18:42 |
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On Jan 25, 12:29=A0am, richard <I.dont.c... [at] do.you> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:34:23 -0500, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>
> >> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
> >> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>
> >> updated 9:10 a.m. MT, Thurs., Jan. 24, 2008
>
> >> BELLEVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police asked a prosecutor to charge o=
ne
> >> of its troopers with reckless homicide in a crash that killed two teena=
ge
> >> sisters after he lost control of his cruiser at 126 mph.
>
> >> The state police request Wednesday to the St. Clair County state's atto=
rney
> >> came just hours after a coroner's jury ruled the Nov. 23 collision
> >> involving Trooper Matt Mitchell was reckless homicide.
>
> >> Mitchell was on Interstate 64 en route to another accident site when hi=
s
> >> car swerved across the median and slammed into an oncoming car, state
> >> police have said. The occupants, Jessica Uhl, 18, and her sister Kelli,=
13,
> >> died at the scene.
>
> >> A state police expert in accident reconstruction told the coroner's jur=
y
> >> that Mitchell was driving 126 mph when he lost control of his car, and =
that
> >> Mitchell's car hit the sisters' vehicle at 102 mph, the coroner's offic=
e
> >> said.
>
> >> (snip)
>
> >> ---------------------
>
> >> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him charged w=
ith
> >> anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but there is no excus=
e
> >> for ever doing 126 mph.
>
> >Of course. =A0Anyone traveling over 110 MPH is just askin' for it.
>
> >*snort*
>
> >Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? =A0I'=
m
> >not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
> >but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
> >(yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
> >road car) without ever killing anyone. =A0Some of them on public roads.
> >Legally.
>
> >nate
>
> Those numbers aren't arbitrary. They can calculate the speed at impact
> fairly accurately. Since that speed was lower than actual, it probably
> means he had his foot on the brake in an attempt to regain control.
> Which was totally stupid.
>
> Uh well. I can plead guilty to a bit of high speed pursuit of
> happiness myself.
> Vehicle was a 1963 Plymouth Belvidere 318 with no modifications.
> On I-275 in Cincinnati I just wanted to see what I could do with it.
> The speedometer showed 110mph when I felt the fan belt slip and backed
> off.
>
> At the ripe old age of 16, in a 1966 ford fairlane, I had the speed up
> at 100mph. Years later, In a 1969 dodge coronet stationwagon { yes I
> said stationwagon } 383 holly 750 quad, I had it at over 100 mph
> several times.
100 ain't nothin' in my '86 Vette (it's "tweaked" a bit over stock).
Sneeze and you're at 100.
Haven't done it in a long time, but I drove to Northern Michigan on
I-75 for about 20 miles in super light traffic going 120. Car handled
great. Slowed down to about 90-100 for quite some time and cruised
with many others that knew how to drive.
Also have punched it up to 135-140 a couple of times. Over 130 the
vette starts to get a little shaky, and really needs a rear spoiler.
I could literally feel the ass end of the car lift due to the vacuum
that was pulled over the rear window.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792265 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 19:04 |
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On Jan 24, 8:34 pm, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net> wrote:
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> Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? I'm
> not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
> but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
> (yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular
> road car) without ever killing anyone.
Yeah, i know. They're called kid killing psychopaths.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792266 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 19:06 |
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On Jan 24, 8:43 pm, Rich Piehl
>
> You complain that everyone is a criminal coddler. They when someone
> does get charged you whine that you're surprised they got charged. You
> are just a chronic whiner
>
He wasn't charged with much. Even if convicted i bet he avoids prison.
After killing two people!!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792267 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 19:06 |
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On Jan 25, 1:04=A0pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta... [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 8:34 pm, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gotta love those arbitrary, pulled-from-the ass numbers, don't you? =A0I=
'm
> > not saying that the officer may not have been at fault for some reason,
> > but there's quite a few people who routinely travel faster than that
> > (yes, in vehicles that bear more than a passing resemblance to a regular=
> > road car) without ever killing anyone.
>
> Yeah, i know. They're called kid killing psychopaths.
Since they're not killing anyone, only by you and undeservedly so.
nate
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792268 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 19:08 |
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On Jan 24, 10:15 pm, richard <I.dont.c... [at] do.you> wrote:
>
> I will agree. I am a little surprised to see that the superior
> officers want to see the man tried. Usually they put the officer on
> administrative leave, which means desk duty, paid vacation or total
> suspension. But rarely prosecuted.
He's prolly got some enemies on the force and they're just using this
to hurt him. I guarantee the cops don't give a damn about the two dead
kids.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792276 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 20:26 |
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SFB spewed:
> Yeah, i know. They're called kid killing psychopaths.
Only in your fecal matter filled head, Shit For Brains.
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"Oh yeah. Well i've gone 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash
so i must be doing something right."
--Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/
Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM), 9/24/2006
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/qdotr
Msg ID: ivadh2t9kd05ilrgdercft8iuvcls6r5op [at] 4ax.com
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792282 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 22:23 |
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SFB spewed:
> On Jan 24, 10:15 pm, richard <I.dont.c... [at] do.you> wrote:
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> >
> > I will agree. I am a little surprised to see that the superior
> > officers want to see the man tried. Usually they put the officer on
> > administrative leave, which means desk duty, paid vacation or total
> > suspension. But rarely prosecuted.
>
> He's prolly got some enemies on the force and they're just using this
> to hurt him. I guarantee the cops don't give a damn about the two dead
> kids.
Neither do you except for the propaganda value.
--
"Oh yeah. Well i've gone 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash
so i must be doing something right."
--Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/
Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM), 9/24/2006
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/qdotr
Msg ID: ivadh2t9kd05ilrgdercft8iuvcls6r5op [at] 4ax.com
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792283 ] |
Fri, 25 January 2008 22:27 |
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Rich Piehl:
> Next time you see someone going that fast you have my permission to jump
> out in front of his car and tell him to stop.
Next time SFB sees someone going that fast, SFB has my *orders* to jump
out in front of the car and tell the driver to stop.
Especially, if the, "car," is really one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/2y73pd ;)
--
Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfrined (a.k.a S&DDAM) finally
admits to what we have known all along:
">You're an idiot.
>
>Graham
Coming from you that's a compliment. "
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/qa5wx
Message ID: 0d3da2hgigdhgl9ck484tj0p8jtlhlsb20 [at] 4ax.com
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792299 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 03:23 |
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The vile and infidel swine and swine sodomizer, "Speeders & Drunk
Drivers are MURDERERS," in an affront to Allah (praises be unto His
Name) and all who are Righetous and Holy left this blasphemy in
rec.autos.driving:
> He wasn't charged with much. Even if convicted i bet he avoids prison.
> After killing two people!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever driven a car faster then the posted speed limit?
Imam Widdershins
Speeding is a Virtue.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792301 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 04:24 |
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In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>
>Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>velocity when running mobile radar.
That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792302 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 04:34 |
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Rich Piehl wrote:
> EAST COAST HIVE MIND wrote:
>> Rich Piehl wrote:
>>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>
>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>> He oughta be charged with murder but i'm surprised to see him
>>>> charged with anything. Apparently this was in the line of duty but
>>>> there is no excuse for ever doing 126 mph.
>>>
>>> You complain that everyone is a criminal coddler. They when someone
>>> does get charged you whine that you're surprised they got charged.
>>> You are just a chronic whiner
>>>
>>> And tell ya' what...
>>>
>>> Next time you see someone going that fast you have my permission to
>>> jump out in front of his car and tell him to stop.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> God bless the USA
>>>
>>
>>
>> Shame on you. You want someone to mess up a nice car mowing down this
>> sod? Now if it's an articulated with a stout set of roo bars on the
>> front, then that's okay.
>>
>
>
> LOL! Or a snow plow?
>
> Take care,
> Rich
>
> God bless the USA
>
That'd work
--
Comrade Otto The Duke Of Yamamoto
http://mryamamoto.50megs.com
'The Quality goes in before the Name goes on'
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792314 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 06:17 |
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Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
>Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>
>>Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>>officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>>velocity when running mobile radar.
>
>That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
>difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
Has it always been that way? It was explained to me differently.
Is it possible to get that much return on the ground, and how does the
receiver differentiate between the two returns?
--
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792318 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 06:26 |
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In article <ArudndINaPGcNQfanZ2dnUVZ_sCtnZ2d [at] speakeasy.net>, Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
> In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
> Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>
>>Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>>officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>>velocity when running mobile radar.
>
> That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
> difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
No wonder it has so many difficulties.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792323 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 06:41 |
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Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>
>That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
>difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
Just did a little googling; thanks for removing some ignorance. :-)
--
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792366 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 19:48 |
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In article <diglp3p9tkmg96bsh1hbaeqgoa81rl9qp0 [at] 4ax.com>,
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>>In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
>>Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>>
>>>Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>>>officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>>>velocity when running mobile radar.
>>
>>That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
>>difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
>
>Has it always been that way? It was explained to me differently.
As far as I know.
>Is it possible to get that much return on the ground, and how does the
>receiver differentiate between the two returns?
The ground is the strongest return (assuming the radar isn't pointed
up or something dumb like that).
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792383 ] |
Sat, 26 January 2008 22:13 |
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Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>In article <diglp3p9tkmg96bsh1hbaeqgoa81rl9qp0 [at] 4ax.com>,
>Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>>>In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
>>>Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>>>>officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>>>>velocity when running mobile radar.
>>>
>>>That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
>>>difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
>>
>>Has it always been that way? It was explained to me differently.
>
>As far as I know.
After doing a little reading, I believe you are correct, and it makes
more sense now. Again, thanks for removing some ignorance. :-)
>>Is it possible to get that much return on the ground, and how does the
>>receiver differentiate between the two returns?
>
>The ground is the strongest return (assuming the radar isn't pointed
>up or something dumb like that).
I'm still struggling a little bit with how a surface that is
effectively parallel to the radar beam is going to provide a stronger
return. However, that surface isn't smooth, and it's going to be a lot
larger than the surface afforded by a vehicle, so at least it makes
some sense to me now. :-)
--
This temporary .sig is to identify myself, as a nym shift has occurred.
In the past, I have spent time pursuing certain trolls around, and have decided this is no longer an activity I wish to waste my time on. As such, I have kill filed R.A.D.'s two main trolls. Thus, I am retiring the 'adaptive' nyms I have generated in response to "Aunt Judy"'s nym shifts. These have included, but not been limited to:
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)
Ted Kennedy Murdered His Pregnant Mistress (and many variants)
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792529 ] |
Mon, 28 January 2008 19:27 |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A2FCCB91D4BFriemann1850yahoocom [at] 216.168.3.70...
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22822347/
>
> Ill. police want trooper charged in crash deaths
> Two teen sisters killed after trooper lost control of car at 126 mph
>
126 mph to get to an accident? O-K. Was it ever reported how serious the
accident he was responding to was. Not that it really matters, but if it
was something like a fender bender...
I guess his "professional driving training" only went up to 125 mph - heh.
John B.
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| Re: Cop who did 126 MPH and Killed Two Teens -- WILL BE CHARGED [message #792549 ] |
Mon, 28 January 2008 23:43 |
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David Poole wrote:
> Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>> In article <diglp3p9tkmg96bsh1hbaeqgoa81rl9qp0 [at] 4ax.com>,
>> Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>> Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>>>> In article <pntip3d8vncbrh0i4q5jllelihlfnfjsbu [at] 4ax.com>,
>>>> Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) </dev/nul> wrote:
>>>>> Also, for radar purposes, the system has to be wired into the police
>>>>> officer's speedo to be able to compensate for the officer's vehicle's
>>>>> velocity when running mobile radar.
>>>> That's not how mobile radar works. It works by calculating the
>>>> difference between ground return and the vehicle return.
>>> Has it always been that way? It was explained to me differently.
>> As far as I know.
>
> After doing a little reading, I believe you are correct, and it makes
> more sense now. Again, thanks for removing some ignorance. :-)
>
>>> Is it possible to get that much return on the ground, and how does the
>>> receiver differentiate between the two returns?
>> The ground is the strongest return (assuming the radar isn't pointed
>> up or something dumb like that).
>
> I'm still struggling a little bit with how a surface that is
> effectively parallel to the radar beam is going to provide a stronger
> return. However, that surface isn't smooth, and it's going to be a lot
> larger than the surface afforded by a vehicle, so at least it makes
> some sense to me now. :-)
>
You use a different radar transceiver than the one you use to shoot cars
with. Usually a pair, one pointed forward and downward, the other
pointed backward and downward, to compute an accurate groundspeed.
Either that or use GPS.
--
--Andy
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