| Re: Arizona budget banking on speeders [message #791835] |
Mon, 21 January 2008 05:38 |
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On Jan 20, 10:34=A0am, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net> wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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> > On Jan 19, 7:42 pm, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net> wrote:
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> >>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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> >>>On Jan 19, 10:35 am, Nate Nagel <njna... [at] roosters.net> wrote:
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> >>>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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> >>>>>Ashton Crusher <d... [at] moore.net> wrote in
> >>>>>news:oab4p3d103e9dq29i2sjsakqnadn47uo6m [at] 4ax.com:
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> >>>>>>Arizonabudget banking on speeders By PAUL DAVENPORT, Associated Pres=
s
> >>>>>>Writer
> >>>>>>Sat Jan 19, 6:57 AM ET
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> >>>>>>PHOENIX -ArizonaGov. Janet Napolitano says the deployment of new
> >>>>>>photo radar or other speed enforcement technology on state highways =
is
> >>>>>>all about public safety. But her proposed state budget counts on the=
> >>>>>>anticipated speeding fines to help erase a projected revenue
> >>>>>>shortfall.
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> >>>>>>The proposal, submitted to the Legislature late Friday, anticipates
> >>>>>>$120 million in revenue the first year, including $90 million in net=
> >>>>>>income after expenses from the statewide effort. Even bigger dollar
> >>>>>>amounts are expected in future years.
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> >>>>>>The state faces a projected revenue shortfall of at least $1.2 billi=
on
> >>>>>>in the fiscal year that starts July 1.
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> >>>>>>While some states use photo radar and similar technology on a limite=
d
> >>>>>>basis in areas such as construction zones, experts saidArizonais in
> >>>>>>the vanguard of moving toward a widespread deployment of speed
> >>>>>>technology on highways.
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> >>>>>>"It wasn't designated primarily for revenue generation but since we
> >>>>>>have it (and) it works, we want to move statewide," Napolitano said.=
> >>>>>>"We made that decision before the whole budget issue arose. Now we
> >>>>>>take advantage of it and use it for law enforcement highway safety
> >>>>>>purposes."
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> >>>>>>The governor's budget aides said Friday they could not immediately
> >>>>>>provide details on assumptions used to project the revenue estimate,=
> >>>>>>including the numbers of expected violations.
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> >>>>>>Napolitano's plan needs approval by the Republican-led Legislature,
> >>>>>>and one key lawmaker expressed immediate opposition.
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> >>>>>>"I don't know whether Arizonans want to be policed by cameras," said=
> >>>>>>Senate Transportation Chairman Ron Gould, adding that he plans
> >>>>>>legislation to require that voters decide the issue. "It smacks of B=
ig
> >>>>>>Brother to me."
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> >>>>>>Proposals calling for even limited use of cameras have run into
> >>>>>>opposition in some states.
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> >>>>>>Maryland's transportation secretary on Tuesday told lawmakers that
> >>>>>>cameras in highway work zones would improve worker safety and reduce=
> >>>>>>accidents, but lawmakers raised concerns on privacy, effectiveness a=
nd
> >>>>>>motive.
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> >>>>>>ArizonaAutomobile Association spokeswoman Linda Gorman said the
> >>>>>>750,000-member group representing drivers supports photo radar as a
> >>>>>>way to improve traffic safety but not to help balance the state
> >>>>>>budget.
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> >>>>>>A year ago, Napolitano cited results from suburban Scottsdale's use =
of
> >>>>>>fixed cameras on a stretch of state freeway when she directed the
> >>>>>>state Department of Public Safety to begin researching the possible
> >>>>>>use of new speed enforcement devices.
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> >>>>>>AnArizonaState University professor who studied the Scottsdale
> >>>>>>project found that it reduced speeding and accident rates. That syst=
em
> >>>>>>uses sensors embedded in the freeway to trigger cameras that snap
> >>>>>>photos of speeding vehicles. Motor vehicle records are checked to fi=
nd
> >>>>>>the vehicles' owners, ultimately leading to citations for identified=
> >>>>>>drivers.
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> >>>>>OK with me. =A0Speeders are kid killers and kid kripplers and i wish =
they'd
> >>>>>increase the fines 10 fold!!! =A0Caught doing 50 in a 35 zone - cost =
you
> >>>>>$2,000. Don't like it? Then obey the law.
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> >>>>they have fines like that in VA now. =A0doesn't seem to make anyone sl=
ow
> >>>>down any. =A0could it be that the speed limits are disconnected from r=
eality?
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> >>>If the states really want to stop speeders, they should shame them
> >>>into slow driving. Put up billboards saying things like "reckless
> >>>driving killed x,000 children last year and injured x00.000.
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> >>Please explain how driving 70 MPH in a reasonable car on a flat,
> >>straight Interstate highway is "reckless."
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> >>Many states not only do not consider it reckless, but consider it legal.=
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> >>In fact, I do not condone reckless driving in any way. =A0I simply just
> >>wish that speed limits had some basis in reality.
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> > Anything over 55 is reckless. There's your reality. And the only
> > reason some states have speed limits of 70 or 75 is because the auto
> > industry pays them to do that. =A0Car crashes are big business.
>
> How do you explain the decided lack of increase in
> crashes/carnage/whatever in the states that have increased speed limits?
> =A0 Probably because your whole premise is a crock of shit from beginning
> to end. =A070 MPH is only dangerous if you do something stupid like walk
> across the freeway in heavy traffic, which I cordially invite you to try.
>
> nate
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Yeah, I am pretty sure statistics show the camera's work but we all
hate those things when we get caught. I have not had a ticket in a
very, very long time. The last one was when I was fairly young and
could not afford it. That made an impression on me - that being "speed
can be expensive too". I see some pretty bad driver's on the road.
http://www.arizonaautoinsurance.cc
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