| Spare tire removal [message #791216] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 07:11 |
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2000 Chevy Silverado. Bought used in 2003.
Need to remove spare (looks brand new) for the first time in order to drill
a hole (5th wheel mount) in the bed. The removal tool, inserted into a hole
in the rear bumper, is guided by a tube to its destination. However it
never seems to catch on anything and turning doesn't lower the tire.
Took it to my Chevy dealership tire/accessory center (not the service
center) and they said "sure, we do it all the time and we'll show you how".
Well they were just as puzzled. Couldn't get the tire down.
My choices seem to be get underneath and cut the cable on the hoist
assembly. I was told that doing so would mean I would have to buy a
complete hoist, as they come as an assembly. Pricy, I am told.
I have already let the air out of the tire to remove some pressure on the
cable assembly. I let the weight of the truck down on blocks of wood under
the spare hoping to develop some slack in the cable. All to no avail. I am
able to reach up and above the tire to get at the single nut/bolt that is
holding the hoist, however, I can only access the nut (18mm) that is welded
to the frame.
Anybody previously face this issue? Any comments on how to proceed? They
made this pretty theft proof. Can't get at the cable with bolt cutters.
Only way is to get out the cutoff wheel on my grinder and cut the visible
hoist-bar in half.
Thanks for all comments. Even for the one that is going to say "Should have
bought a Ford".
Ivan Vegvary
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791222 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 14:24 |
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On Mar 2, 1:11=A0am, "Ivan Vegvary" <i... [at] reelart.us> wrote:
> 2000 Chevy Silverado. =A0Bought used in 2003.
>
> Need to remove spare (looks brand new) for the first time in order to dril=
l
> a hole (5th wheel mount) in the bed. =A0The removal tool, inserted into a =
hole
> in the rear bumper, is guided by a tube to its destination. =A0However it
> never seems to catch on anything and turning doesn't lower the tire.
>
> Took it to my Chevy dealership tire/accessory center (not the service
> center) and they said "sure, we do it all the time and we'll show you how"=
..
> Well they were just as puzzled. =A0Couldn't get the tire down.
>
> My choices seem to be get underneath and cut the cable on the hoist
> assembly. =A0I was told that doing so would mean I would have to buy a
> complete hoist, as they come as an assembly. =A0Pricy, I am told.
>
> I have already let the air out of the tire to remove some pressure on the
> cable assembly. =A0I let the weight of the truck down on blocks of wood un=
der
> the spare hoping to develop some slack in the cable. =A0All to no avail. =
=A0I am
> able to reach up and above the tire to get at the single nut/bolt that is
> holding the hoist, however, I can only access the nut (18mm) that is welde=
d
> to the frame.
>
> Anybody previously face this issue? =A0Any comments on how to proceed? =A0=
They
> made this pretty theft proof. =A0Can't get at the cable with bolt cutters.=
> Only way is to get out the cutoff wheel on my grinder and cut the visible
> hoist-bar in half.
>
> Thanks for all comments. =A0Even for the one that is going to say "Should =
have
> bought a Ford".
>
> Ivan Vegvary
Since the "tool" never catches on anything do you have the correct
"tool" to engage the lifting mechanism?
If the answer is yes, then I would take it to the service department
and have them figure it out. The mechanism made need lubrication.
After this is all over you may want to get the tire re-mounted on a
swing-away at the rear of the truck. Looks a bit strange I know, but
far easier to access.
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791226 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 16:22 |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> 2000 Chevy Silverado. Bought used in 2003.
>
> Need to remove spare (looks brand new) for the first time in order to drill
> a hole (5th wheel mount) in the bed. The removal tool, inserted into a hole
> in the rear bumper, is guided by a tube to its destination. However it
> never seems to catch on anything and turning doesn't lower the tire.
>
> Took it to my Chevy dealership tire/accessory center (not the service
> center) and they said "sure, we do it all the time and we'll show you how".
> Well they were just as puzzled. Couldn't get the tire down.
>
> My choices seem to be get underneath and cut the cable on the hoist
> assembly. I was told that doing so would mean I would have to buy a
> complete hoist, as they come as an assembly. Pricy, I am told.
>
> I have already let the air out of the tire to remove some pressure on the
> cable assembly. I let the weight of the truck down on blocks of wood under
> the spare hoping to develop some slack in the cable. All to no avail. I am
> able to reach up and above the tire to get at the single nut/bolt that is
> holding the hoist, however, I can only access the nut (18mm) that is welded
> to the frame.
>
> Anybody previously face this issue? Any comments on how to proceed? They
> made this pretty theft proof. Can't get at the cable with bolt cutters.
> Only way is to get out the cutoff wheel on my grinder and cut the visible
> hoist-bar in half.
>
> Thanks for all comments. Even for the one that is going to say "Should have
> bought a Ford".
>
> Ivan Vegvary
>
>
If you can rotate the handle easily and the tire doesn't move you will
need a new hoist assy. The end that engages the handle is nothing more
than a crimped piece of tubing. The other end is attached to a worm
that turns a gear with the pulley sheave that the hoist cable winds
on/off. The entire thing is inside a housing. From your description it
sounds like the worm has either broken free of the drive extension OR
the end that engages the handle has been wallowed out so the handle
doesn't lock in.
You might try inserting the handle and giving it a sharp hit on the end
with a hammer and see if the worm frees up enough to let it work.
New they are expensive BUT since GM used the same unit on a LOT of
trucks the salvage yards have tons of them on wrecked trucks. prices run
between 25-75 bucks or so, depending on location.
--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791230 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 17:41 |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Thanks for all comments. Even for the one that is going to say "Should have
> bought a Ford".
Well, now that you took all the fun out of it...
--
If they could invoke Dubya,
I can certainly call a jerk Hussein.
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791235 ] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 20:56 |
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If you had had a flat tire, you would have been really stuck.Like
someone else suggested, get a swing away thingy and when you do remove
the spare wheel/tire, mount it on there.I think some of those swing
aways are made so that you can pad lock the wheel/tire on there.Many
years ago, some cars and trucks didn't come from the factories with
tires mounted on the spare wheels.
cuhulin
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791301 ] |
Wed, 05 March 2008 00:13 |
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There was a "TSB" that dealt with this issue and a few years after that GMC
sent letters to all owners about this problem. GM's original solution was to
deflate the spare ( this works, but is not a good option for anyone stuck on
the side of the road with a flat tire), a couple of years later they sent a
letter to all registered owners offering a flexible extension to lower the
spare. If the dealer you are using doesn't know about this tell them to read
there TSB's, then find a dealer that does.
Al
Bottoms Up Divers
"Ivan Vegvary" <ivan [at] reelart.us> wrote in message
news:jyryj.729$LK3.52 [at] trndny02...
> 2000 Chevy Silverado. Bought used in 2003.
>
> Need to remove spare (looks brand new) for the first time in order to
> drill a hole (5th wheel mount) in the bed. The removal tool, inserted
> into a hole in the rear bumper, is guided by a tube to its destination.
> However it never seems to catch on anything and turning doesn't lower the
> tire.
>
> Took it to my Chevy dealership tire/accessory center (not the service
> center) and they said "sure, we do it all the time and we'll show you
> how". Well they were just as puzzled. Couldn't get the tire down.
>
> My choices seem to be get underneath and cut the cable on the hoist
> assembly. I was told that doing so would mean I would have to buy a
> complete hoist, as they come as an assembly. Pricy, I am told.
>
> I have already let the air out of the tire to remove some pressure on the
> cable assembly. I let the weight of the truck down on blocks of wood
> under the spare hoping to develop some slack in the cable. All to no
> avail. I am able to reach up and above the tire to get at the single
> nut/bolt that is holding the hoist, however, I can only access the nut
> (18mm) that is welded to the frame.
>
> Anybody previously face this issue? Any comments on how to proceed? They
> made this pretty theft proof. Can't get at the cable with bolt cutters.
> Only way is to get out the cutoff wheel on my grinder and cut the visible
> hoist-bar in half.
>
> Thanks for all comments. Even for the one that is going to say "Should
> have bought a Ford".
>
> Ivan Vegvary
>
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| Re: Spare tire removal [message #791538 ] |
Tue, 11 March 2008 03:31 |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> 2000 Chevy Silverado. Bought used in 2003.
>
> Thanks for all comments. Even for the one that is going to say "Should have
> bought a Ford".
>
> Ivan Vegvary
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>
That's why the spare bounces around in the bed of my truck I guess...
the assembly is long since rusted into nothingness.
At least you weren't trying to do this on the side of the highway...
Ray
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