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Motorcycles » uk.rec.motorcycles » OT: Car suggestions
| OT: Car suggestions [message #788286] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 15:23 |
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I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
- low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
- air con
- able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
hatch rather than a saloon
- diesel
- reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
- comfortable on motorways
I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788287 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 15:36 |
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Ben wrote:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
Don't get a Mk 3 Golf as it's really difficult to get a bike inside. I
leave a roofrack and bike carrier on mine most of the time.
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Nick Brooks
SV650
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788289 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 15:43 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
> --
Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
www.autotrader.co.uk is your friend.
(Also www.honestjohn.co.uk)
JB
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788295 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 15:47 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
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>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>> --
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>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
ugly.
There also don't appear to be any more than 2 cars on Autotrader that
are less than 40k miles old and within my budget. That suggests it'd
be pretty hard to find a good one especially as I'm aiming around the
20k miles mark.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788298 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:04 |
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Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at]
4ax.com:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
Probably not but I spotted this as an alternative
http://www.clevedonmazda.co.uk/stock.php?pageNum=2&total Rows=26
Last one on the list: Octavia in a decent spec. Should be able to get a
diesel version for similar money in a private sale. Room for bikes now and
future-proof: plenty of room for babies later.
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wessie at tesco dot net
BMW R1150GS
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788300 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:22 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
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Dan
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788301 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:26 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben wrote:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
I have a Volvo V70 estate (2.5 Low pressure Turbo) running LPG. I do ~30K
a year and mine currently has 160K on it and is still like new. Very
comfy(leather, air con, electric everything which all works),
returns 22/3 mpg on gas at 40p/litre so equivalent to >50mpg for a near
200bhp practical, safe, comfy, motor. As far as long lasting, I can see no
reason why mine won't easily clear the 250K mark without any major work
(cambelt cost £100 and is every 50K). servicing is a piece of pee.
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Entwisi
FBOTY#2003 PIT#03(KoTL)
XL1000V Varadero, CB250RSA(The Lozzo Tart), Guzzi Mille GT
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788302 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:27 |
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In article <hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
I hate to say it, but a mondeo.
7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
too, plus they're well built these days.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788303 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:20 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:04:12 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere [at] tesco.net>
wrote:
>Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at]
>4ax.com:
>
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
>Probably not but I spotted this as an alternative
> http://www.clevedonmazda.co.uk/stock.php?pageNum=2&total Rows=26
>
>Last one on the list: Octavia in a decent spec. Should be able to get a
>diesel version for similar money in a private sale. Room for bikes now and
>future-proof: plenty of room for babies later.
Not a hatchback though. Saloons, boots and muddy mountain bikes don't
mix. A Fabia in a decent spec might be a possibility.
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http://www.addict-racing.com
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788304 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:27 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:22:47 +0100, "DanTXD" <me [at] privacy.net> wrote:
>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>
>
>Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
>speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
>;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
Good thought, a mate used to have one of those as a company car and we
easily got bikes and camping gear in it.
A dunno if I'll get one with a low enough mileage for my money, I'll
have a mooch around Autotrader.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788306 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:30 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:27:15 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:22:47 +0100, "DanTXD" <me [at] privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>
>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>> - air con
>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>> - diesel
>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>
>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>>
>>
>>Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
>>speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
>>;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
>
>Good thought, a mate used to have one of those as a company car and we
>easily got bikes and camping gear in it.
>
>A dunno if I'll get one with a low enough mileage for my money, I'll
>have a mooch around Autotrader.
Blimey, I'm wrong, there's a fair selection. That's definitely one
for the shortlist.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788307 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:32 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:27:09 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>In article <hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>
>I hate to say it, but a mondeo.
As Dan has just suggested.
>7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
>too, plus they're well built these days.
Yeah, I was quite impressed with my mate's company car he had a couple
of years back. Apart from the very odd bite point on the clutch made
it easy to stall.
I'm too young to own a Mondeo though.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788308 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:47 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:47:00 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>
>My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
>bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
>ugly.
But big, much bigger than a focus. Of course, if you want big, you
ought to look at Volvo estates. You should be able to get a pretty
decent 3-4 year old one for the money you're talkng about.
>There also don't appear to be any more than 2 cars on Autotrader that
>are less than 40k miles old and within my budget. That suggests it'd
>be pretty hard to find a good one especially as I'm aiming around the
>20k miles mark.
Ahh, well yes, you'll struggle to find 'em that new.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788309 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:48 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:et4vb2h93dul8r2l9t4u47oq1048qmojjl [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:27:09 +0100, ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>
>>In article <hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>
>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>> - air con
>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>> - diesel
>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>>I hate to say it, but a mondeo.
>
> As Dan has just suggested.
>
>>7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
>>too, plus they're well built these days.
>
> Yeah, I was quite impressed with my mate's company car he had a couple
> of years back. Apart from the very odd bite point on the clutch made
> it easy to stall.
>
> I'm too young to own a Mondeo though.
> --
406 2.2 HDi Estate? 406s were without a doubt the most well made Pug ,
well, ever really. Also cavernous, handle well, the 2.2 HDi is a great
engine, and chips to 160bhp if that takes your fancy...
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Dan
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788310 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:54 |
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Ben wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:04:12 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere [at] tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in
>> news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com:
>>
>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines
>>> of:
>>>
>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3
>>> years
>>> - air con
>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>> - diesel
>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>
>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old
>>> Focus
>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>
>> Probably not but I spotted this as an alternative
>> http://www.clevedonmazda.co.uk/stock.php?pageNum=2&total Rows=26
>>
>> Last one on the list: Octavia in a decent spec. Should be able to
>> get a diesel version for similar money in a private sale. Room for
>> bikes now and future-proof: plenty of room for babies later.
>
> Not a hatchback though. Saloons, boots and muddy mountain bikes don't
> mix. A Fabia in a decent spec might be a possibility.
Octavias are hatchbacks (or estates)
They never did a saloon and the boot is huge.
The 110bhp TDI has a decent turn of speed and is nice and economical as well
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Alex
Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity
www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788311 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 17:00 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
<snip>
>I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
They're not great for long distance comfort and the boot is dreadful.
OK there's room for a bike with the seats down but for big mileages
you'd be far better off with a Mondeo as Ginge has suggested (or
Vectra).
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Daz
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788313 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:54 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:48:19 +0100, "DanTXD" <me [at] privacy.net> wrote:
>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>news:et4vb2h93dul8r2l9t4u47oq1048qmojjl [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:27:09 +0100, ginge
>> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>>In article <hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
>>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>>
>>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>>> - air con
>>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>>> - diesel
>>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>
>>>I hate to say it, but a mondeo.
>>
>> As Dan has just suggested.
>>
>>>7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
>>>too, plus they're well built these days.
>>
>> Yeah, I was quite impressed with my mate's company car he had a couple
>> of years back. Apart from the very odd bite point on the clutch made
>> it easy to stall.
>>
>> I'm too young to own a Mondeo though.
>
>406 2.2 HDi Estate? 406s were without a doubt the most well made Pug ,
>well, ever really. Also cavernous, handle well, the 2.2 HDi is a great
>engine, and chips to 160bhp if that takes your fancy...
The point behind the diesel is to cut down on running costs because my
company mileage rate is pretty poor. I imagine running a 2.2 litre
car, even a diesel, might not be the most cost effective.
This was why I was originally looking at the 1.8 diesel types.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788314 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:56 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:47:18 +0200, Ace <seesig [at] virgin.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:47:00 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>>
>>My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
>>bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
>>ugly.
>
>But big, much bigger than a focus. Of course, if you want big, you
>ought to look at Volvo estates. You should be able to get a pretty
>decent 3-4 year old one for the money you're talkng about.
I want a reasonable size. I'm happy to take wheels off bikes and will
usual be carrying 2 plus camping gear. This all goes in my tiny 1.3
Civic at the moment, but I'd like a little more space. It' doesn't
need to be Volvo huge hence my looking at a mid-sized hatchback in the
first place. In the mid hatch range I get a newer car that's cheaper
to run as well which is important when your company only pays 25p a
mile.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788315 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 16:57 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:54:22 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
<AlexNOOOO!!!!!!! [at] drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>Octavias are hatchbacks (or estates)
>They never did a saloon and the boot is huge.
You still appear to lose a fair bit of space as they've done a
hatchback that looks like a saloon. Still, I'd have to have a proper
poke around one to decide.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788318 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 17:15 |
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Ben wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:54:22 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
> <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!! [at] drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Octavias are hatchbacks (or estates)
>> They never did a saloon and the boot is huge.
>
> You still appear to lose a fair bit of space as they've done a
> hatchback that looks like a saloon. Still, I'd have to have a proper
> poke around one to decide.
Nope , the "boot lid" is quite high up so you get a decent depth at the back
of the boot and plenty of space further forward.
With the rear seats folded forwards you'll fit bikes in with no problems.
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Alex
Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity
www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788334 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:12 |
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In article <v66vb2lke9tv5v0ui078q6sv5otm3rfjb6 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
takes your fancy...
>
> The point behind the diesel is to cut down on running costs because my
> company mileage rate is pretty poor. I imagine running a 2.2 litre
> car, even a diesel, might not be the most cost effective.
>
> This was why I was originally looking at the 1.8 diesel types.
Over 2.0 litres diesel puts you on a higher per mile rate, if your
company uses the approved inland revenue figures.
Something like 11p/mile vs 8p for fuel only costs..
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788335 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:18 |
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In article <dc6vb29eq1e0l0thre49k5kpinf0vlo1vt [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> >1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
> They're not great for long distance comfort and the boot is dreadful.
> OK there's room for a bike with the seats down but for big mileages
> you'd be far better off with a Mondeo as Ginge has suggested (or
> Vectra).
Disagree, the vectra is horrible and doesn't handle at all well.
Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788353 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:00 |
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"Ben" wrote...
> I want a reasonable size. I'm happy to take wheels off bikes and will
> usual be carrying 2 plus camping gear. This all goes in my tiny 1.3
> Civic at the moment, but I'd like a little more space. It' doesn't
> need to be Volvo huge hence my looking at a mid-sized hatchback in the
> first place. In the mid hatch range I get a newer car that's cheaper
> to run as well which is important when your company only pays 25p a
> mile.
> --
Re the 25p a mile, you can claim tax relief on the other 15p a mile for your
first 10,000 miles.
Dave H.
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788357 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:03 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:39 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
<snip>
>Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
Whatever. A car is a car is a car.
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Daz
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788358 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:11 |
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Daz wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:39 +0100, ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
>
> Whatever. A car is a car is a car.
>
Depends how long your arse is sat in it. 2 hours driving a Vectra is
about the most I can cope with.
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John
'00 SV650S
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788362 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:23 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:26:21 +0100, entwisi
<entwisi [at] the-entwistles.co.uk> thrashed out:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben wrote:
>
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
>I have a Volvo V70 estate (2.5 Low pressure Turbo) running LPG. I do ~30K
>a year and mine currently has 160K on it and is still like new. Very
>comfy(leather, air con, electric everything which all works),
>returns 22/3 mpg on gas at 40p/litre so equivalent to >50mpg for a near
>200bhp practical, safe, comfy, motor. As far as long lasting, I can see no
>reason why mine won't easily clear the 250K mark without any major work
>(cambelt cost £100 and is every 50K). servicing is a piece of pee.
For comfort, you can't beat them.
I have a V70 T5, all leather / electric everything etc. Being petrol,
not as economical, but as the man says, *loads* of space!
and fast.
--
Black Mike GSXR 1000K4, er...in black!
MIB#20
"If in doubt, flat out!"
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788366 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:36 |
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In article <dpdvb2du91uvl8lkgs34c9ouik0kb3pjff [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:39 +0100, ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
>
> Whatever. A car is a car is a car.
>
>
I thought we were helping *you* to choose a car only a couple of months
ago? Did you go for the Vectra in the end?
--
jeremy
'01 Triumph Sprint ST in green
_______________________________________
jeremy0505 at gmail.com
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788370 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:57 |
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Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
> >Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
> >speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
> >;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
>
> Good thought, a mate used to have one of those as a company car and we
> easily got bikes and camping gear in it.
>
> A dunno if I'll get one with a low enough mileage for my money, I'll
> have a mooch around Autotrader.
What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788371 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 20:00 |
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Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
> >7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
> >too, plus they're well built these days.
>
> Yeah, I was quite impressed with my mate's company car he had a couple
> of years back. Apart from the very odd bite point on the clutch made
> it easy to stall.
Had one last week in Jersey. There's absolutely no feel in the throttle
or clutch pedals, meaning you either rev the nuts off it or stall it
every time you pull away from a junction. The chassis also can't handle
the torque of the 130bhp TDCI lump, so if you do give it a boot full of
throttle whilst pulling away it all goes a bit mad with torque steer
whilst squeeling the front tyres.
As a car, they're OK-ish, but although they look quite nice on the
inside, the plastics are dirt cheap and don't look like they'll last too
long.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788396 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:27 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:e72vb2515lh8sh97n0cu9oklpr4tgeimeq [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>
>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>> - air con
>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>> - diesel
>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>
>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>> --
>>
>>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>
> My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
> bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
> ugly.
But now you've moved the goalposts. Your original criteria didn't include
"must be attractive to wimmin". You've NO chance now coz you can't get any
bikes in an MX5.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788398 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:25 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
Vectra or Mondeo then innit? Not the most exciting cars, but the Mondeo will
swallow a small African nation and run forever. The Vectra's not as roomy,
but they're comfortable, quite and don't mind racking up the miles.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788400 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:42 |
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SteveH wrote:
> What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
> 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
> on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
> pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
mega miles on them are like new.
You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
want to raise their hand while we're here?
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788402 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:51 |
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In article <1153424541.384025.224550 [at] i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, dwb
says...
> SteveH wrote:
>
> > What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
> > 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
> > on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
> > pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
>
> And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
> mega miles on them are like new.
>
> You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
> want to raise their hand while we're here?
I reckon a car with 50K on could feel just like a car with 150K on, as
they'd both be past their prime if the first 50K was a hard 50K.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788405 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:07 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:36:36 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
>I thought we were helping *you* to choose a car only a couple of months
>ago? Did you go for the Vectra in the end?
BMW.
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Daz
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788407 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:12 |
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In article <cdovb2lonv3t9675oisor8rjeo25ffsj9f [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:36:36 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I thought we were helping *you* to choose a car only a couple of months
> >ago? Did you go for the Vectra in the end?
>
> BMW.
>
>
What influenced your choice - IIRC it was similar price but 3 or so
years old?
--
jeremy
'01 Triumph Sprint ST in green
_______________________________________
jeremy0505 at gmail.com
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788410 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:18 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:12:44 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
>What influenced your choice - IIRC it was similar price but 3 or so
>years old?
Comfortable, drives well, I really like the interior layout and it
looks a lot better than a Vectra.
--
Daz
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788412 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:19 |
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dwb <parc_erom [at] crossdata.co.uk> wrote:
> SteveH wrote:
>
> > What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
> > 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
> > on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
> > pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
>
> And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
> mega miles on them are like new.
>
> You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
> want to raise their hand while we're here?
I've got a car here at the moment with 5k miles on it, it's only 2
months old.
Apart from smelling like a plastic factory, it doesn't feel any better
than a properly looked after 100k mile plus car.
OK, so the paint is nice and new with no scratches (well, apart from the
stonechip I've just noticed on the bonnet), but the interior is already
looking 'lived in'.
You pay your money and make your own choice, but to rule out a car
that's done a few miles is to overlook some of the best bargains out
there due to the general opinion in this country that 100k miles on a
car means it's only fit for scrap.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788417 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:28 |
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In article <q5pvb252htrjsk2a36paibpgqggd7av4bf [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:12:44 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >What influenced your choice - IIRC it was similar price but 3 or so
> >years old?
>
> Comfortable, drives well, I really like the interior layout and it
> looks a lot better than a Vectra.
>
>
I an understand that perfectly - though it doesn't really tie in with
your earlier contribution of "A car is a car is a car."
--
jeremy
'01 Triumph Sprint ST in green
_______________________________________
jeremy0505 at gmail.com
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Thu, 20 July 2006 22:29 |
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788419 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:27 |
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"Beav" <beavis.original [at] ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in message
news:EMQvg.870$v4.459 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
> news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
> Vectra or Mondeo then innit? Not the most exciting cars, but the Mondeo
> will swallow a small African nation and run forever. The Vectra's not as
> roomy, but they're comfortable, quite and don't mind racking up the miles.
Not to menton quiet.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
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