| http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783214] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 04:28 |
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http://www.iracing.com/
Getting closer.
:)
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783216 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 05:50 |
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"Byron Forbes" <caramel [at] chocolate.com.au> wrote in message
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> http://www.iracing.com/
>
> Getting closer.
YAWN
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783217 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 06:01 |
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Band Two wrote:
> "Byron Forbes" <caramel [at] chocolate.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44beea39$0$17544$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
> > http://www.iracing.com/
> >
> > Getting closer.
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> YAWN
LOL
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783219 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 06:19 |
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flightlessvacuum [at] gmail.com wrote in
news:1153368073.265124.13430 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
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> Band Two wrote:
>> "Byron Forbes" <caramel [at] chocolate.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:44beea39$0$17544$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.
>> com.au...
>> > http://www.iracing.com/
>> >
>> > Getting closer.
>>
>> YAWN
>
> LOL
>
laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
will be Vunderbra!!!
dave henrie
(of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of Bernie's
all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really
cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER
DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge.
Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late
Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars gliding
around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup
racin' it aint.)
dh
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783221 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 13:09 |
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Dave Henrie wrote:
> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
> will be Vunderbra!!!
Who cares? Where's the transporter?
Don McCorkle
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783226 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 15:54 |
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> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
> doesn't get yer blood up?
Maybe, but a simple press release doesn't...
Wake me when there's product.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783229 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:46 |
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"mcewena" <art.mcewen [at] moh.gov.on.ca> wrote in message
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> Wake me when there's product.
>
My point exactly.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783236 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:29 |
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"Dave Henrie" <daveBITEMEhenrie [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9805D8F26233Adavehenriecomcastnet [at] 216.196.97.136...
> flightlessvacuum [at] gmail.com wrote in
> news:1153368073.265124.13430 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
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>>
>> Band Two wrote:
>>> "Byron Forbes" <caramel [at] chocolate.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:44beea39$0$17544$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.
>>> com.au...
>>> > http://www.iracing.com/
>>> >
>>> > Getting closer.
>>>
>>> YAWN
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>> LOL
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>
> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
> will be Vunderbra!!!
>
> dave henrie
>
> (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of Bernie's
> all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really
> cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER
> DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge.
> Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late
> Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars
> gliding
> around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup
> racin' it aint.)
>
> dh
It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving *any*
sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their permission.
And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
--
David G Fisher
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783237 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 20:13 |
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> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way
on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern
billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100
(or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart
transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael
Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco
pits...; )
So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783238 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 20:17 |
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"mcewena" <art.mcewen [at] moh.gov.on.ca> wrote in message
news:1153419230.087043.95450 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
>
> But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way
> on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern
> billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100
> (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart
> transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael
> Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco
> pits...; )
>
> So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....
None of us could even drive a 145 hp Skip Barber car, or a late model
(whatever that is) looking through a 19 in. hole two feet in front of our
heads with $100 controls.
:-)
That's why sim racing isn't really....
--
David G Fisher
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783239 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 20:26 |
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783240 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 20:47 |
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B Wegner wrote:
> I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing!
>
I guess all the buttons, dials, knobs & read-outs on the wheel are just
for the drinks dispensor then... ;)
http://www.grandprixlegends.com/F1LegendsSite/(F1Legends)/AML002%28GPL%5FBaseCatalog%29/F1Legends.htm
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783242 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:21 |
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B Wegner wrote:
> I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing!
I watched a piece on "5th gear" about some UK gazillonaire who'd just
bought an Ex MS Ferari F1 car (2002 2003 vintage?), he actually owned
(ran?) his on ELMS team, after a 1/2 day briefing he managed to stall
it leaving the pits, after another half day he managed to get to within
1 second of the track record FOR THE FERRARI ROAD CAR ;) And this is
a guy who owned several ferraris and other race cars...
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783256 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 01:51 |
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Byron Forbes wrote:
> http://www.iracing.com/
>
> Getting closer.
>
> :)
This inspired me to pull my wheel out of the closet and give GPL and
GTP another go. :)
Much of the site is re-hashed, but the new content makes me very happy,
particularly the (vague) details on the tire and aero models.
Jason
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783257 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 01:53 |
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Dave Henrie wrote:
> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
> will be Vunderbra!!!
The track list is orgasmic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only
essential American natural terrain road course not on there.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783258 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 02:01 |
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David G Fisher wrote:
> It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving *any*
> sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their permission.
> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a
modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15)
but...I'd be highly surprised if iRacing doesn't feature a modern-spec
F1 car of some sort, if not in the initial release. If the sim
features ladder systems for karts, open wheelers, stock cars, and
sports cars, I'd think eventually you'll be given the option to
graduate to the big boys.
Also, I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the animation on the main
page has a rendered Star Mazda which isn't mentioned anywhere else on
the site.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783268 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:09 |
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"David G Fisher" <davegf [at] home.com> wrote in message
news:BpOdnYkl-ZEYICLZnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
>
> "Dave Henrie" <daveBITEMEhenrie [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9805D8F26233Adavehenriecomcastnet [at] 216.196.97.136...
>> flightlessvacuum [at] gmail.com wrote in
>> news:1153368073.265124.13430 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Band Two wrote:
>>>> "Byron Forbes" <caramel [at] chocolate.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:44beea39$0$17544$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.
>>>> com.au...
>>>> > http://www.iracing.com/
>>>> >
>>>> > Getting closer.
>>>>
>>>> YAWN
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>
>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!
>>
>> dave henrie
>>
>> (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of
>> Bernie's
>> all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really
>> cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER
>> DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge.
>> Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late
>> Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars
>> gliding
>> around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup
>> racin' it aint.)
>>
>> dh
>
> It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving
> *any* sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their
> permission. And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
>
Some interesting comments.
I think Kaemmer shows that he knows the way forward though ie everything
in 1 place. All mods, tracks leagues in 1 place - that is going to be
EXTREMELY attractive to many - rFactor being a perfect example.
Besides, in time (hmmm, I seem to have been saying this for about a
decate - LOL) I'm betting there won't be many types of cars unavailable over
there and an ever growing list of tracks. I wonder how much time?
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783271 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 14:51 |
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B Wegner wrote:
> I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype
> far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars
> dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of
> much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing!
Yepp, that's why they are thinking about replacing those moody, sensitive
human drivers earning millions with... monkeys! A couple bananas... done!
l8er
ronny
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> Kinda what makes the GTP mod so fun. The driver has to tame the beast;
> not the other way around!
>
> --
>
> Wag
>
> "mcewena" <art.mcewen [at] moh.gov.on.ca <mailto:art.mcewen [at] moh.gov.on.ca>>
> wrote in message
> news:1153419230.087043.95450 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.
>
> But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way
> on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern
> billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100
> (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart
> transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael
> Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco
> pits...; )
>
> So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783280 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 20:55 |
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"Woodie83" <dSPAMmccorkle [at] comSPAMcast.net> wrote in message
news:lMqdnavbUcXG-SLZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> Dave Henrie wrote:
>
>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!
>
>
> Who cares? Where's the transporter?
>
>
> Don McCorkle
.. . . and the bears !
. . . Gots ta hav me teddy.
Elrikk
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783282 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 23:04 |
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mcewena wrote:
> Maybe, but a simple press release doesn't...
>
> Wake me when there's product.
I agree to an extent, but we're also looking at a company consisting of
people with a tangible track record (regardless of how you feel about
Kaemmer's previous work). A real developer with real financial backing
= an eventual product. I'm not advising to buy into the hype
necessarily, but certainly if you enjoyed GPL and N2003 it's worth
getting a tiny bit excited.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783283 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 23:20 |
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"jason moyer" <jmoyer [at] pair.com> wrote in message
news:1153439637.798993.249940 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Dave Henrie wrote:
>
>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!
>
> The track list is orgasmic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only
> essential American natural terrain road course not on there.
Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get
excited about racing.
--
David G Fisher
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783285 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 01:06 |
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David G Fisher wrote:
> Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get
> excited about racing.
I think the track list is kinda short, and there are several non-US
tracks I'd like to drive (Mosport, Mont Tremblant, Nurby, Spa, Suzuka,
etc), but as far as American stuff goes they have most of the essential
road courses for me:
Daytona
Lime Rock
Mid-Ohio
Road America
VIR
Watkins Glen
Willow Springs
Only ones I'd really like US-wise and don't see there are Laguna Seca,
Sears Pt, Road Atlanta, and Sebring. Maybe the various Pocono infield
tracks. Would be nice to have Riverside or historical versions of the
tracks they have the rights to as well.
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| Re: http://www.iracing.com/ [message #783288 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 01:20 |
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jason moyer wrote:
> The track list is orgasmic.
Put it back in your pants.
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