| Relocate distributor condenser [message #777500] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 21:28 |
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Although I like the timing curve on the new SVDA -- which I recently
installed -- this distributor has been eating the condensers on a too
frequent basis. Possibly because the SVDA appears to be using the
condenser as a heat sink. (BTW: Possible engine over-heating issues
were previously addressed).
As a test I thought I would relocate the condenser away from the usual
location on the side of the distributor. Any reason I cannot solder
~6" (15cm) of wire and move it? Does the condenser require grounding?
Thanks.
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777502 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 21:47 |
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luftgekuhlten wrote:
> Although I like the timing curve on the new SVDA -- which I recently
> installed -- this distributor has been eating the condensers on a too
> frequent basis. Possibly because the SVDA appears to be using the
> condenser as a heat sink. (BTW: Possible engine over-heating issues
> were previously addressed).
>
> As a test I thought I would relocate the condenser away from the usual
> location on the side of the distributor. Any reason I cannot solder
> ~6" (15cm) of wire and move it? Does the condenser require grounding?
>
> Thanks.
>
Perfectly acceptable. You could make the connection
right on the Coil (-) terminal.
Yes, it needs to be grounded. The mounting screw for
the condensor bracket will take care of that.
Maybe screw it to the fan housing?
For an extra measure, run a Ground wire from the
mounting screw to the engine case...
Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777503 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 23:27 |
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Speedy Jim wrote:
> Perfectly acceptable. You could make the connection
> right on the Coil (-) terminal.
> Yes, it needs to be grounded. The mounting screw for
> the condensor bracket will take care of that.
> Maybe screw it to the fan housing?
> For an extra measure, run a Ground wire from the
> mounting screw to the engine case...
> Speedy Jim
> http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
Thanks for answering that. As I have had the same problem. The SVDA
on my stock 1600 engine seems to be going through condensers at an
unusually fast pace. I popped open the deck lid to check the heat from
the distributor after a run home for lunch. Maybe it is a difference
in distributor casting, but the SVDA seems to be much hotter than I
recall with either the stock distributor or even with the 009.
This evening I am relocating that condenser.
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777514 ] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 17:19 |
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In article <1152739656.084102.259230 [at] 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Postman's Holiday" <wayupnorthland [at] bigmailbox.net> wrote:
> Speedy Jim wrote:
> > Perfectly acceptable. You could make the connection
> > right on the Coil (-) terminal.
>
> > Yes, it needs to be grounded. The mounting screw for
> > the condensor bracket will take care of that.
> > Maybe screw it to the fan housing?
> > For an extra measure, run a Ground wire from the
> > mounting screw to the engine case...
>
> > Speedy Jim
> > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
>
> Thanks for answering that. As I have had the same problem. The SVDA
> on my stock 1600 engine seems to be going through condensers at an
> unusually fast pace. I popped open the deck lid to check the heat from
> the distributor after a run home for lunch. Maybe it is a difference
> in distributor casting, but the SVDA seems to be much hotter than I
> recall with either the stock distributor or even with the 009.
>
> This evening I am relocating that condenser.
yes, heat is the enemy of condensers. I always lost them in the summer.
Moved mine to the manifold.
--
"In the future you may be here, but will your dreams?"
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777516 ] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 18:44 |
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Speedy Jim wrote:
> Perfectly acceptable. You could make the connection
> right on the Coil (-) terminal.
>
> Yes, it needs to be grounded. The mounting screw for
> the condensor bracket will take care of that.
> Maybe screw it to the fan housing?
> For an extra measure, run a Ground wire from the
> mounting screw to the engine case...
Terrific. Thanks much for providing me with the answer. Although I
believe I may need to follow-up on the suggestion of Mr. Hoover and
investigate the distributor drive-pinion.
Speedy Jim, again my thanks.
-LK
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777534 ] |
Fri, 14 July 2006 16:47 |
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luftgekuhlten wrote:
> Although I like the timing curve on the new SVDA -- which I recently
> installed -- this distributor has been eating the condensers on a too
> frequent basis. Possibly because the SVDA appears to be using the
> condenser as a heat sink. (BTW: Possible engine over-heating issues
> were previously addressed).
>
> As a test I thought I would relocate the condenser away from the usual
> location on the side of the distributor. Any reason I cannot solder
> ~6" (15cm) of wire and move it? Does the condenser require grounding?
>
> Thanks.
Why not get a Pertronix drop in ignition and do away with the condensor?
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777536 ] |
Fri, 14 July 2006 18:25 |
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What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all together?
"luftgekuhlten" <luftgekuhlt [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152732524.992894.133430 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Although I like the timing curve on the new SVDA -- which I recently
> installed -- this distributor has been eating the condensers on a too
> frequent basis. Possibly because the SVDA appears to be using the
> condenser as a heat sink. (BTW: Possible engine over-heating issues
> were previously addressed).
>
> As a test I thought I would relocate the condenser away from the usual
> location on the side of the distributor. Any reason I cannot solder
> ~6" (15cm) of wire and move it? Does the condenser require grounding?
>
> Thanks.
>
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777539 ] |
Fri, 14 July 2006 23:38 |
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> What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all together?
I went back to points / condenser in order for the CDI system to work
properly.
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777541 ] |
Fri, 14 July 2006 23:49 |
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Which CDI system?
I know that many will work Pertronix/Compufire
"luftgekuhlten" <luftgekuhlt [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152913099.850155.272690 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all
>> together?
>
> I went back to points / condenser in order for the CDI system to work
> properly.
>
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777553 ] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 15:29 |
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luftgekuhlten wrote:
>> What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all together?
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> I went back to points / condenser in order for the CDI system to work
> properly.
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I run a Pertronix with my Tiger CDI, works fine..
J.
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777561 ] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 20:56 |
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> What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all together?
>> I went back to points / condenser in order for the CDI system to
>> workproperly.
It is a Universal CDI. The engine would not run with the CDI connected,
but would when returned to stock. Universal checked the CDI unit and
could find nothing wrong. Their tech person suggested that I go back to
points/condenser. And since then it has worked fine (an operational CDI
on our trusty four bangers makes a noticable difference).
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777562 ] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 21:25 |
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luftgekuhlten wrote:
>> What about a Compufire or Pertronix and get rid of a condensor all together?
>
>>> I went back to points / condenser in order for the CDI system to
>>> workproperly.
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> It is a Universal CDI. The engine would not run with the CDI connected,
> but would when returned to stock. Universal checked the CDI unit and
> could find nothing wrong. Their tech person suggested that I go back to
> points/condenser. And since then it has worked fine (an operational CDI
> on our trusty four bangers makes a noticable difference).
>
Mine is also made by Universial industries, bought from
www.Aircooled.net , and it works fine with the Pertronix module.
And yes, it has a very noticeable effect, specially on startups.
J.
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #777566 ] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 23:09 |
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Can you use a MSD ignition with a breaker points dizzy? I have a MSD
ignition I bought for another project car that I ended up selling before
it was finished.
Tony
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #784817 ] |
Tue, 18 July 2006 21:25 |
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> Can you use a MSD ignition with a breaker points dizzy? I
> have a MSD ignition I bought for another project car that I
> ended up selling before it was finished.
Very possibly. What specific MSD ignition do you have? And do you
have the wiring diagram?
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #784821 ] |
Tue, 18 July 2006 23:46 |
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Postman's Holiday wrote:
>> Can you use a MSD ignition with a breaker points dizzy? I
>> have a MSD ignition I bought for another project car that I
>> ended up selling before it was finished.
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> Very possibly. What specific MSD ignition do you have? And do you
> have the wiring diagram?
I have a MSD 6A and I can't find the instructions. I need to contact
MSD for replacement instructions. I originally was going to use it on a
Z-car but I sold it last year.
It will trigger off a magnetic pickup distributor and I was considering
picking up one of the compatible Toyota distributors and trading with a
friend to get the modifications done. Right now I'm running a crappy
009 and I can hardly wait to swap it out but I've spent to much on other
stuff to buy something else at the moment.
Tony
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| Re: Relocate distributor condenser [message #784825 ] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 01:07 |
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> I have a MSD 6A and I can't find the instructions. I need to contact
> MSD for replacement instructions. I originally was going to use it
> on a Z-car but I sold it last year.
You may find the information you need at:
http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/6%20series/6series.pdf
> It will trigger off a magnetic pickup distributor and I was considering
> picking up one of the compatible Toyota distributors and trading with a
> friend to get the modifications done. Right now I'm running a crappy
> 009 and I can hardly wait to swap it out but I've spent to much on other
> stuff to buy something else at the moment.
The information suggests that the MSD 6A should work.
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