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Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776867] Thu, 13 July 2006 18:30
warlock162  
Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
car.

However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.

Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776872 ] Thu, 13 July 2006 20:09
motsco__  
warlock162 wrote:
>
> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
> car. However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>
> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?


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Search is your friend.

Plugged fuel filters usually manifest by causing misfire when passing a
semi-trailer unit while climbing a hill in a rainstorm with four
passengers. If that's not happening to you, just run a bottle of Chevron
Techron thru the gas tank twice a year, and do a tune-up as specified in
your manual.

You can change it if it makes you feel good. I slipped mine off, shook
it with fuel inside, then gently blew it out backwards with compressed
air. The dirty stuff is gone.

'Curly'
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776874 ] Thu, 13 July 2006 22:50
runsrealfast  
warlock162 wrote:
> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
> car.
>
> However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>
> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?


I have a 97 and my mileage has not changed (in fact its better b/c now
that i'm older I don't hit the gas so hard). I do try to fill up with
chevron a least once a month. The rest of the time I am putting
Maverick or a non top tier brand in. (which is dumb because I only save
..01 a gallon but the Maverick is on my way to work so its easy). I
don't have as many miles yet but I haven't seen anything wrong with my
engine at this point. The suggestion to run the chevron techron stuff
is good, or you can just fill up with chevron gas for a couple of tanks
and see what that does (might be an even cheaper solution).
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776884 ] Thu, 13 July 2006 23:27
johnin  
Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
car.

However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.

Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
first off Honda fuel filters dont last the life of any
car much less a Honda and second of all leaving a filter in that LONG with-out
changing it is asking for trouble. it can and will damage your fuel pump by making it work harder and strain it and there by become noiseyer as well. its not worth the
aggrevation it causes get it changed! you"l do your fuel pump and wallet a favoure.


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Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776888 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 15:52
jim beam  
warlock162 wrote:
> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
> car.
>
> However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>
> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
>
clogged filters restrict fuel flow, not increase it, so it's unlikely
that the filter's increasing your consumption. run injector cleaner
through it to make sure they're not dribbling. other things to check
are the pcv valve and the health of the ignition system - weak spark
reduces engine output.
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776891 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 16:06
jim beam  
johnin wrote:
> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
> car.
>
> However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>
> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
> first off Honda fuel filters dont last the life of any
> car much less a Honda and second of all leaving a filter in that LONG with-out
> changing it is asking for trouble. it can and will damage your fuel pump by making it work harder and strain it and there by become noiseyer as well. its not worth the
> aggrevation it causes get it changed!

eh? the resistance of the filter is /nothing/ compared to the
resistance of the pressure regulator or bigger still, a closed injector.
and it's an inductive pump, so there's nothing to strain.

> you"l do your fuel pump and wallet a favoure.

forget it. filters last pretty much the life of the car. the test, as
stated by curly, is whether it's starting to choke at full load. and at
only 168k, it ain't there yet. not even close.
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776894 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 17:57
motsco__  
jim beam wrote:

filters last pretty much the life of the car. the test, as
> stated by curly, is whether it's starting to choke at full load. and at
> only 168k, it ain't there yet. not even close.

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The only disclaimer might be if he lives in the country and drives some
dirt road daily. Then fuel filter could die early . . . Even then, a
little back-flush would probably put it back in near-new condition. They
seem to be a bit expensive, although they are armor plated. :-)

'Curly'
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776912 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 23:00
iglesias  
In article <44B7BEE0.29F7B996 [at] interbaun.com>,
'Curly Q. Links' <motsco__ [at] interbaun.com> wrote:
>The only disclaimer might be if he lives in the country and drives some
>dirt road daily. Then fuel filter could die early . . . Even then, a
>little back-flush would probably put it back in near-new condition. They
>seem to be a bit expensive, although they are armor plated. :-)

Or you get a load of dirty gas. That happened to me once about 20 years
ago. I barely made it to the dealer because the engine was so starved for
gas. It turns out I wasn't the only one that the dealer had come in who
bought gas from the same station and had problems.


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Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776913 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 23:15
jim beam  
Mike Iglesias wrote:
> In article <44B7BEE0.29F7B996 [at] interbaun.com>,
> 'Curly Q. Links' <motsco__ [at] interbaun.com> wrote:
>> The only disclaimer might be if he lives in the country and drives some
>> dirt road daily. Then fuel filter could die early . . . Even then, a
>> little back-flush would probably put it back in near-new condition. They
>> seem to be a bit expensive, although they are armor plated. :-)
>
> Or you get a load of dirty gas. That happened to me once about 20 years
> ago. I barely made it to the dealer because the engine was so starved for
> gas. It turns out I wasn't the only one that the dealer had come in who
> bought gas from the same station and had problems.
>
sure it wasn't the neighbor kid and some sugar cubes? that's a nasty combo.
Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776932 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 20:25
johnin  
johnin wrote:> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
> car.
>
> However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>
> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
> first off Honda fuel filters dont last the life of any
> car much less a Honda and second of all leaving a filter in that LONG with-out
> changing it is asking for trouble. it can and will damage your fuel pump by making it work harder and strain it and there by become noiseyer as well. its not worth the
> aggrevation it causes get it changed!
eh? the resistance of the filter is /nothing/ compared to the
resistance of the pressure regulator or bigger still, a closed injector.
and it's an inductive pump, so there's nothing to strain.
> you"l do your fuel pump and wallet a favoure.
forget it. filters last pretty much the life of the car. the test, as
stated by curly, is whether it's starting to choke at full load. and at
only 168k, it ain't there yet. not even close.
Think so! jim beam read the article on the "importance of replacing a fuel filter"

www.autorepair.about.com/cs/doityourself/a/aa082203a_2.htm
www.automedia.com/Fuel/Filter/Replacement/ccr20010701ff/1


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Re: Replacing Fuel Filter, 1998 Honda Civic EX [message #776963 ] Sun, 16 July 2006 07:30
jim beam  
johnin wrote:
> johnin wrote:> Some have said that a fuel filter on a Honda lasts for the life of the
>> car.
>>
>> However, I have about 168,000 miles on my '98 Civic. I have detected that
>> my fuel efficiency is starting to lower a bit.
>>
>> Is this due to a dirty fuel filter or just the age of the car?
>> first off Honda fuel filters dont last the life of any
>> car much less a Honda and second of all leaving a filter in that LONG with-out
>> changing it is asking for trouble. it can and will damage your fuel pump by making it work harder and strain it and there by become noiseyer as well. its not worth the
>> aggrevation it causes get it changed!
> eh? the resistance of the filter is /nothing/ compared to the
> resistance of the pressure regulator or bigger still, a closed injector.
> and it's an inductive pump, so there's nothing to strain.
>> you"l do your fuel pump and wallet a favoure.
> forget it. filters last pretty much the life of the car. the test, as
> stated by curly, is whether it's starting to choke at full load. and at
> only 168k, it ain't there yet. not even close.
> Think so! jim beam read the article on the "importance of replacing a fuel filter"
>
> www.autorepair.about.com/cs/doityourself/a/aa082203a_2.htm
> www.automedia.com/Fuel/Filter/Replacement/ccr20010701ff/1
>
citing incorrect articles based on myth, not fact, doesn't mean that
modern cars' filters aren't good pretty much for the life of the vehicle.

want to think about things for a moment?

1. aged filters actually pass /less/ "grit" than new ones.

2. the fine filter, the one that does all the donkey work, is /after/
the pump, not before, so it offers the pump no protection whatsoever.

whoever wrote that stuff doesn't know what the heck they're talking about.
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