| ot: japanese website development [message #775820] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 12:40 |
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how do I go about building a website in japanese?
Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
Any takers?
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775821 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 12:42 |
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darsy wrote:
> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
Same as you would in English, but with a different language?
> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
Surely you mean "speaks, reads and writes with native fluency"?
> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
I'm intrigued as to why it would be any different to any other
language?
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775827 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 12:54 |
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"DoetNietComputeren" <Doesnotcompute [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>darsy wrote:
>> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
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>Same as you would in English, but with a different language?
well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
>> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
>
>Surely you mean "speaks, reads and writes with native fluency"?
well, yes.
>> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
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>I'm intrigued as to why it would be any different to any other
>language?
I'm just checking - I know next to nothing about non-western character
sets.
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| Re: japanese website development [message #775829 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:00 |
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"Buzby" <gb [at] pumpupthe.net> wrote:
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>> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
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>> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
>> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
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>A HTML is HTML - it's done in exactly the same way as you might do a Polish
>or German site. I'm currently doing one that will be translated into about
>six or seven languages - though fortunately not into Japanese.
>
OK - that's one question answered.
I still need someone who actually has experience of building japanese
websites to help out with layout, as .jp sites don't see to have the
menus in the right place, IYSWIM.
We do have a daughter company with an existing Japanese variant of
their website, but they've cheated and used GIFs for a lot of their
Kanji navigation <fx: stern glare in Antony E's direction>
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775830 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:01 |
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darsy wrote:
> well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
> to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
> display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
Ahh fair enough. FWIW I've seen both types. ie some pages which fill
with a plethora of ????? instead of characters, presumeably requiring
client-side stuff and other sites which have displayed perfectly with
scribble - eg: http://www.kakaku.com/
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775831 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:01 |
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"darsy" <darsy [at] sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nn07b2170b7j2mhtnkv86rdub7vsdrkkbj [at] 4ax.com...
> "DoetNietComputeren" <Doesnotcompute [at] gmail.com> wrote:
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>>darsy wrote:
>>> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
>>
>>Same as you would in English, but with a different language?
>
> well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
> to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
> display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
>
>>> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
>>
>>Surely you mean "speaks, reads and writes with native fluency"?
>
> well, yes.
>
>>> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
>>
>>I'm intrigued as to why it would be any different to any other
>>language?
>
> I'm just checking - I know next to nothing about non-western character
> sets.
Make sure you have the Japanese character set installed on your machine.
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775834 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:05 |
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In article <nn07b2170b7j2mhtnkv86rdub7vsdrkkbj [at] 4ax.com>, darsy says...
> well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
> to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
> display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
If it's running on Wintel boxes, you might have to install the
supplemental files for east asain languages, which is a checkbox on one
of the regional settings tabs in control panel. Then the machine will
cope with double byte character sets properly.
If it's linux, you'll probably have to fuck a penguin or something.
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775835 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:06 |
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In article <1152615671.733040.141540 [at] b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
DoetNietComputeren says...
> darsy wrote:
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> > well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
> > to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
> > display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
>
> Ahh fair enough. FWIW I've seen both types. ie some pages which fill
> with a plethora of ????? instead of characters, presumeably requiring
> client-side stuff and other sites which have displayed perfectly with
> scribble - eg: http://www.kakaku.com/
That'll be because you've not got double byte character support switched
on.. see my other post.
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775838 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:11 |
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ginge <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>In article <nn07b2170b7j2mhtnkv86rdub7vsdrkkbj [at] 4ax.com>, darsy says...
>> well, I thought this might be the case, but I wasn't sure if I needed
>> to install anything on the server, or if all of the handling of
>> display of the Kanji characters was done client-side in the browser.
>
>If it's running on Wintel boxes, you might have to install the
It is. Well, yes and no. The Web and application server tiers are
Windows 2003 Server boxes. The Sybase instance where the data lives is
on a Solaris box, and the actual data is on a Hitachi SAN. I know that
I'm going to have to frig around with the Sybase settings to get it to
store non-western characters[1], but I'm assuming the SAN layer is
transparent to the data (it'd be pretty fucking useless if it wasn't).
>supplemental files for east asain languages, which is a checkbox on one
>of the regional settings tabs in control panel. Then the machine will
>cope with double byte character sets properly.
noted.
>If it's linux, you'll probably have to fuck a penguin or something.
I don't work for a company pikey enough to run Linux.
[1] even getting Sybase to store the Euro symbol in a varchar was a
pain in the arse. I'd love to chuck it and run MS SQL Server, but it's
a political decision, not a technical one :-/
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #775842 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 13:15 |
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darsy <darsy [at] sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>[1] even getting Sybase to store the Euro symbol in a varchar
text, not varchar, you muppet.
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #776210 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 23:07 |
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darsy <darsy [at] sticky.co.uk> wrote:
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> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
> Any takers?
Just like any other website, only with an extra step - once you've
finished it, you print it out, give it and a pair of scissors to a
small child, take a photo of the resulting scraps, and use a gif of
that as the final page.
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #776213 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 23:10 |
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Simon Gates <Simon [at] invalid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>darsy <darsy [at] sticky.co.uk> wrote:
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>> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
>> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
>> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
>> Any takers?
>
>Just like any other website, only with an extra step - once you've
>finished it, you print it out, give it and a pair of scissors to a
>small child, take a photo of the resulting scraps, and use a gif of
>that as the final page.
>
brilliant!
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #776232 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 23:28 |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:40:16 +0100, darsy wrote
(in article <iuv6b2dkht6fuomgvjjoe74vk13mj5ubv0 [at] 4ax.com>):
> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
>
> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
>
> Any takers?
Use the English one, but stick lots of domo-kuns and tentacles on it
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| Re: ot: japanese website development [message #776348 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 08:18 |
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simonk <usenet [at] simonk.org> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:40:16 +0100, darsy wrote
>(in article <iuv6b2dkht6fuomgvjjoe74vk13mj5ubv0 [at] 4ax.com>):
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>> how do I go about building a website in japanese?
>>
>> Obviously I'm going to need to find someone who speaks japanese, but
>> what's specifically involved in building the HTML?
>>
>> Any takers?
>
>Use the English one, but stick lots of domo-kuns and tentacles on it
d'oh - why didn't I think of that?
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