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I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772471] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 19:14
BGN  
I'm not sure what to say, really.

There was a letter waiting at home from Islington Parking Services
addressed to me.

<sigh>

Those of you unfamilar with my Islington Parking Services complaint of
January or February are probably quite fortunate.

I have in my hands a *new* parking ticket.

<http://hayn.gotadsl.co.uk/ukrm/islington.jpg>

Evidently I parked my Vauxhall/Blue with registration EO02 MYK in
Eburne Road, N7 at 12:50 on 9th May '06.

I got straight on the blower to IPS who pulled up the Penalty Charge
Notice and verified that they have a high resolution photo of the
front of the car displaying the registration EU02 MYK, the rear of the
car displaying the registration EU02 MYK and the tax disc of the car
displaying the registration EU02 MYK. Evidently it's a blue Vauxhall
estate car with ladders on the roof.

Mrs. IPS verified that it's exactly the same car my motorcycle (EO02
MYK) was ticketed for earlier in the year She checked which traffic
officer issued the ticket on both occasions and they are two different
people.

Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
don't then I'm liable to pay it.

When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking
violation not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS
in place of a CC.
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772473 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 19:15
Jeremi  
In article <ob1e821hq7ie3mmuflki8r1j929ch06kea [at] 4ax.com>, BGN says...

>
> I'm not sure what to say, really.
>

Do you ever have any good days Nick?

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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772486 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 19:35
Grimly Curmudgeon  
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> saying
something like:

>Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
>motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
>case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
>don't then I'm liable to pay it.

The usual bullshit. I trust you bit her head off with logic.

>When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
>shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
>explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking
>violation not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS
>in place of a CC.

Keep the shit for later and smear it all over the doorhandles of the
Borough limousine.
--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772489 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 19:41
Buzby  
> I'm not sure what to say, really.

How about "fuck off and annoy someone else or I'll see you in court"

Hope yer day gets better
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772494 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:08
Muck  
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE [at] REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

>
> Keep the shit for later and smear it all over the doorhandles of the
> Borough limousine.

Dog poo, smeared with a stick works really well on all sorts of door
handle.

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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772495 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:10
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772496 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:14
Paul Corfield  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:14:31 +0100, BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:

>I'm not sure what to say, really.
>
>There was a letter waiting at home from Islington Parking Services
>addressed to me.
>
><sigh>
>
[snip]
>When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
>shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
>explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking
>violation not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS
>in place of a CC.

I would write a simple letter pointing out that the same error has been
made on two separate occasions. I would then state that this clearly
demonstrates that the council and their contractor are incompetent and
that you are referring the matter to the District Auditor (or whoever is
responsible for assessing the management competence / efficiency of
local authorities). I'd also state that you are not going to waste any
more time sending anything to the council by way of evidence and that
you are not paying them a penny for anything and have no liability to
them in respect of this latest farce.

A quick letter to the editor of a national newspaper might also be fun
if they need one of those nice "barking mad loony council parking fuck
up" articles to fill some space on a slow news day.
--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772502 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:20
chateau.murraySPAMKIL  
BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:

> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
> don't then I'm liable to pay it.


Tell her, impolitely, to fuck off and refer her to previous
correspondence. Remind her that last time it cost the council £25.

Don't waste any more time on the cunts. Simply say that if they want to
see you in court, they can, and it will cost them thousands.


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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772507 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:26
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772514 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:39
Blue  
"Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ef12aba9c67c87a98ae04 [at] news.individual.net...
<snip>
> I just got a phone call from an irate boyfriend saying I'd pinched his
> girlfriend's arse! /po-litely/ told *him* to fuck off as well.
>
> Stupid cunt, if I was in the mood for a fight I'd have told the cunt
> that it was her that was coming onto me and it was me that told her to
> fuck off.

A missed opportunity. You should have told him what a great fuck she was
too, then hung up.


--
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(dan [at] finex666.org.uk)
Perform an exorcism when replying.
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772518 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:50
Buzby  
>> I just got a phone call from an irate boyfriend saying I'd pinched his
>> girlfriend's arse! /po-litely/ told *him* to fuck off as well.
>>
>> Stupid cunt, if I was in the mood for a fight I'd have told the cunt
>> that it was her that was coming onto me and it was me that told her to
>> fuck off.
>
> A missed opportunity. You should have told him what a great fuck she was
> too

but unfortunately you seem to have developed a bad case of <<insert std
here>>
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772530 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:21
BGN  
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:20:38 +0100,
chateau.murraySPAMKILL [at] dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
>> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
>> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
>> don't then I'm liable to pay it.
>
>
>Tell her, impolitely, to fuck off and refer her to previous
>correspondence. Remind her that last time it cost the council £25.
>
>Don't waste any more time on the cunts. Simply say that if they want to
>see you in court, they can, and it will cost them thousands.

I'm on the second draft of Shitty Letter #1 and have incorporated
elements of both Paul and your own suggestions. It's a bit longer
than I like and got a bit repetitive in places but it's quoted below:

Dear Helen Bailey,

This letter is in reference to Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) IS1111
which has been mistakenly issued to the incorrect vehicle registration
number on 9th May '06. I am again writing about the inadequacy of
procedures used by Islington Parking Services (IPS) when transcribing
information onto parking tickets.

You have heard from me previously and awarded me a 'good will' gesture
in relation to PCN IS0000 which was incorrectly issued on 5th November
'05. I'm sure you've got my details on file and hope you will
investigate this matter further as nothing appears to have been learnt
since last year.

In summary, (IS0000) I was mistakenly issued with a parking ticket due
to one of your traffic wardens writing down a registration plate
incorrectly from a blue Vauxhall car (Registration EU02 MYK) and
registering the ticket against my black Kawasaki motorcycle
(Registration EO02 MYK) and the case carrying on until late February
or early March this year until I contacted you to settle the complete
farce IPS had created when they threatened to take me to court as they
said I was responsible for the charge as the reasons for my appeal
were rejected due to some huge admin error.

Today I was shocked and saddened to find yet another "Notice to Owner"
from Islington Parking Services had been delivered to my home with PCN
IS1111. Evidently a "Vauxhall/Blue" with the registration EO02 MYK
(my motorcycle registration) had been recorded as being parked without
displaying a pay & display ticket in Eburne Road, N7 [at] 12:50 on 9th
May '06. Yet again I phoned IPS who took the new PCN details and
verified that they have a photograph of the front of a blue Vauxhall
estate car with ladders on top displaying the registration EU02 MYK, a
photo of the rear of the car displaying the registration EU02 MYK and
a photo of the tax disc displaying the registration EU02 MYK. However,
the warden put EO02 MYK down on the ticket.

The agent at your IPS office looked at the previous PCN from last year
and has verified the car is the same as the last time. I asked her to
check which warden issued the ticket and both were issued by different
people.

When this happened in November it was very, very annoying and took a
long time to put straight. It happening once would have been just a
minor inconvenience if IPS hadn't threatened to take me to court but I
see absolutely no reason why I should be subjected to the same
treatment again. Can you please explain why this not only happened to
me last year, but has happened to me again this year?

In your last letter from the old PCN you assured me you felt your
Council had not behaved in a negligent manner in relation to the
ticket before you awarded me with a monetary gesture. It's happened
again in an identical situation by the same Council - is this not
negligence? I'm at a loss to describe it in any other way. You have
provided a disservice to me. I don't even live in London and I
haven't been to Islington for years but yet again here I am, writing
another complaint and I'm having to pay Special Delivery costs on top
as I don't even have faith in your post room to get this letter to
you.

It's becoming increasingly difficult not to take this personally. How
many more times am I going to have to do this? The odds of this
happening to the same car and being billed to me twice by two
different wardens must be astronomical would you not agree?

This same error has now been made to my determent on two separate
occasions. I think this clearly demonstrates that Islington Council
and their contractor are incompetent and if it carries on for much
longer I will refer it to your District Auditor (or whoever is
responsible for assessing the management competence and efficiency of
your Council.)

I also wish to make clear that I do not wish to waste any more of my
time sending anything to the council by way of evidence as you appear
to have the photographs on file already and that I am not going to pay
a penny to you for anything and have no liability to you in respect of
the next chapter of this sham your Coulcil have chosen to write.

I feel that it's reasonable to demand that you should investigate this
matter fully as a matter of urgency and respond to my queries. Please
provide me with the contact details of your District Auditor or
similar body so I may contact them if this matter isn't resolved to my
satisfaction swiftly. If it's going to take months like before I
would gladly argue the case in court (I would win - it would cost you
thousands) and it would certainly provide an excellent filler article
on a slow day for a newspaper.

Yours Sincerely,


Nicholas Mooney.
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772531 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:22
BGN  
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:15:52 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

>> I'm not sure what to say, really.
>
>Do you ever have any good days Nick?

Not since I was 15.
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772534 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:27
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772538 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:32
dnk.haines  
"BGN" <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:259e8255pc9n8emabh1g1vjgqpcd7ss4j6 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:20:38 +0100,
> chateau.murraySPAMKILL [at] dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>>BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
>>> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
>>> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
>>> don't then I'm liable to pay it.
>>
>>
>>Tell her, impolitely, to fuck off and refer her to previous
>>correspondence. Remind her that last time it cost the council £25.
>>
>>Don't waste any more time on the cunts. Simply say that if they want to
>>see you in court, they can, and it will cost them thousands.
>
> I'm on the second draft of Shitty Letter #1 and have incorporated
> elements of both Paul and your own suggestions. It's a bit longer
> than I like and got a bit repetitive in places but it's quoted below:

<snip>

As a former council employee, I doubt that(a) Helen wasserface will ever see
the letter and (b) the person tasked with reading it and replying to it will
be cannon fodder stuck there to take the flak whoi'll then just get pissed
off with you.

I'd go with TOGs suggestion or, in a similar vein, send the penalty notice
back with a piece of A4 with huge capirtals reading:
"PLEASE CHECK WITH DVLA AS TO THE CORRECT IDENTITY FOR THE VEHICLE WITH THIS
REGISTRATION"

And, in tiny type
"and then fuck off and leave me alone. Thank you.
Love,
Nick Mooney"
at the bottom.

That should get the message across whilst showing you still have a sense of
humour.

Dave

PS. Wanna buy a nice tidy NS400R (in a few bits.......) to replace the
ER-5? :)
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772542 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:35
dnk.haines  
"Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ef138efd25a062e98ae0b [at] news.individual.net...
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN belched forth and ejected the following:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:15:52 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> I'm not sure what to say, really.
>> >
>> >Do you ever have any good days Nick?
>>
>> Not since I was 15.
>
> What happened when you were 15 and if you could change a life-decision,
> what would that decision be?

How old was he when he turned up at his first *OSM and I had to put his tent
up?

IIRC (and I probably don't) that was the infamous Derek and Clive/settee
confessions *OSM, which may have had a slight effect....

Dave
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772543 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:36
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772544 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:40
Beav  
"BGN" <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:ob1e821hq7ie3mmuflki8r1j929ch06kea [at] 4ax.com...
> I'm not sure what to say, really.
>
> There was a letter waiting at home from Islington Parking Services
> addressed to me.
>
> <sigh>
>
> Those of you unfamilar with my Islington Parking Services complaint of
> January or February are probably quite fortunate.
>
> I have in my hands a *new* parking ticket.
>
> <http://hayn.gotadsl.co.uk/ukrm/islington.jpg>
>
> Evidently I parked my Vauxhall/Blue with registration EO02 MYK in
> Eburne Road, N7 at 12:50 on 9th May '06.
>
> I got straight on the blower to IPS who pulled up the Penalty Charge
> Notice and verified that they have a high resolution photo of the
> front of the car displaying the registration EU02 MYK, the rear of the
> car displaying the registration EU02 MYK and the tax disc of the car
> displaying the registration EU02 MYK. Evidently it's a blue Vauxhall
> estate car with ladders on the roof.
>
> Mrs. IPS verified that it's exactly the same car my motorcycle (EO02
> MYK) was ticketed for earlier in the year She checked which traffic
> officer issued the ticket on both occasions and they are two different
> people.
>
> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
> don't then I'm liable to pay it.
>
> When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
> shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
> explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking
> violation not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS
> in place of a CC.

Send a pic and a copy of this note to MCN. They'll sort it for you, no
problem.


--
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VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772545 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:40
Catman  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:14:31 +0100, BGN wrote:

> I'm not sure what to say, really.
<snip>
>
> When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
> shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
> explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking violation
> not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS in place of a
> CC.

Just don't pay it and wait for the court date. Then go to court with the
most expensive solicitor you can find and get damages and costs.

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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772549 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:46
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772551 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:47
ufdi  
BGN wrote:
>
> I'm on the second draft of Shitty Letter #1 and have incorporated
> elements of both Paul and your own suggestions. It's a bit longer
> than I like and got a bit repetitive in places but it's quoted below:
>

<Snip>

I wouldn't bother, Nick. Just send a very short letter pointing out the
difference in the registrations and then wait for them to invite you to
court.

Si
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772552 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:47
dnk.haines  
"Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ef13d642b8a278498ae0e [at] news.individual.net...
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, WavyDavy belched forth and ejected the following:
>
>>
>> "Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1ef138efd25a062e98ae0b [at] news.individual.net...
>> > In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN belched forth and ejected the following:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:15:52 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure what to say, really.
>> >> >
>> >> >Do you ever have any good days Nick?
>> >>
>> >> Not since I was 15.
>> >
>> > What happened when you were 15 and if you could change a life-decision,
>> > what would that decision be?
>>
>> How old was he when he turned up at his first *OSM and I had to put his
>> tent
>> up?
>
> It involved *work*. It had nothing to do with putting tents up, iyam.
>
>> IIRC (and I probably don't) that was the infamous Derek and Clive/settee
>> confessions *OSM, which may have had a slight effect....
>
> I don't see what sofa confessions have to do with Nick's tent skillz.

Well he'd never put a sofa in a tent if you were in the same county for
starters....

Dave
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772553 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:50
BGN  
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:32:58 +0200, "WavyDavy" <dnk.haines [at] wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

>As a former council employee, I doubt that(a) Helen wasserface will ever see
>the letter and (b) the person tasked with reading it and replying to it will
>be cannon fodder stuck there to take the flak whoi'll then just get pissed
>off with you.

I work for a large company and know that letters to the MD are read
and sorted out by someone else. I've done it myself.

>I'd go with TOGs suggestion or, in a similar vein, send the penalty notice
>back with a piece of A4 with huge capirtals reading:
>"PLEASE CHECK WITH DVLA AS TO THE CORRECT IDENTITY FOR THE VEHICLE WITH THIS
>REGISTRATION"

The thing is, the correct identity of the person on the PCN is me,
because they wrote down my registration mark.

>And, in tiny type
>"and then fuck off and leave me alone. Thank you.
>Love,
>Nick Mooney"
>at the bottom.
>
>That should get the message across whilst showing you still have a sense of
>humour.

Draft 1 (sadly never sent) of my reply to the first PCN last year
looked something like:

""
Yes, my dear, the DVLA may well have given you the details of who uses
EO02 MYK - my plate - but if actually look at the fucking photo
through your four semi-evolved beady little eyes you'll notice the
registration mark of the cunting car in question is EU02 MYK you dried
up barren shadow of an old buck-toothed hag.

I wish you a lifetime of unhappiness and hope you die of a chronic
swelling seeping fanny disorder.

Kindest Regards,

Nick Mooney D.D.
""

>PS. Wanna buy a nice tidy NS400R (in a few bits.......) to replace the
>ER-5? :)

(NSFW) <http://www.ns400r.co.uk/ns400r/gallery/sara-ns400r.jpg> It
looks tiny! I only just fit on the ER-5! Are you trying to get me
killed?
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772555 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:53
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772558 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 21:59
dnk.haines  
"BGN" <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:dvae82lrnqv06r4v9fo61scvin4hrl64gs [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:32:58 +0200, "WavyDavy" <dnk.haines [at] wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>>As a former council employee, I doubt that(a) Helen wasserface will ever
>>see
>>the letter and (b) the person tasked with reading it and replying to it
>>will
>>be cannon fodder stuck there to take the flak whoi'll then just get pissed
>>off with you.
>
> I work for a large company and know that letters to the MD are read
> and sorted out by someone else. I've done it myself.

SO why waste the time?

>>I'd go with TOGs suggestion or, in a similar vein, send the penalty notice
>>back with a piece of A4 with huge capirtals reading:
>>"PLEASE CHECK WITH DVLA AS TO THE CORRECT IDENTITY FOR THE VEHICLE WITH
>>THIS
>>REGISTRATION"
>
> The thing is, the correct identity of the person on the PCN is me,
> because they wrote down my registration mark.

Ah, yes. Noted approximately 10 seconds before you posted this reply.....
try changing it to "ARE YOU *SURE* YOU'VE GOT THE REG. NUMBER RIGHT?" and
get that solicitor who's always getting people off speeding on the case -
I'm sure he'll be up for a non win/no fee case what with the extra publicity
after you tell the Daily Mail and MCN that you've hired him to go to court
to sort out some "loony left" council....

>>And, in tiny type
>>"and then fuck off and leave me alone. Thank you.
>>Love,
>>Nick Mooney"
>>at the bottom.
>>
>>That should get the message across whilst showing you still have a sense
>>of
>>humour.
>
> Draft 1 (sadly never sent) of my reply to the first PCN last year
> looked something like:
>
> ""
> Yes, my dear, the DVLA may well have given you the details of who uses
> EO02 MYK - my plate - but if actually look at the fucking photo
> through your four semi-evolved beady little eyes you'll notice the
> registration mark of the cunting car in question is EU02 MYK you dried
> up barren shadow of an old buck-toothed hag.
>
> I wish you a lifetime of unhappiness and hope you die of a chronic
> swelling seeping fanny disorder.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nick Mooney D.D.
> ""
>
>>PS. Wanna buy a nice tidy NS400R (in a few bits.......) to replace the
>>ER-5? :)
>
> (NSFW) <http://www.ns400r.co.uk/ns400r/gallery/sara-ns400r.jpg> It
> looks tiny! I only just fit on the ER-5! Are you trying to get me
> killed?

But the NS4 is *quality*... If a bit old. And that bird's a giant - her
tits are bigger than Lea's you know (and don't tell me you don't watch Big
Brother! - You've got to be smack bang in their target audience)

Dave
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772559 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:01
ChrisDC  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:21:13 +0100, BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net>
wrote:

>
>This same error has now been made to my determent on two separate
^^^^^^^^^
detriment


>occasions. I think this clearly demonstrates that Islington Council
>and their contractor are incompetent and if it carries on for much
>longer I will refer it to your District Auditor (or whoever is
>responsible for assessing the management competence and efficiency of
>your Council.)
>
>I also wish to make clear that I do not wish to waste any more of my
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
will not

Just a couple of suggestions!

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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772563 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:20
chateau.murraySPAMKIL  
BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:

> I'm on the second draft of Shitty Letter #1

<snip>


Way too long and too much bile.

Below is a subbed version:

Dear Ms. Bailey,

This letter is in reference to Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) IS1111
which has been mistakenly issued to the incorrect vehicle registration
number on 9th May '06.

You have already incorrectly accused me of parking illegally in your
borough f and awarded me a goodwill'gesture in relation to PCN IS0000.
Check your files

Now you have done it again. I suggest you look at the paperwork relating
to this ticket and learn the difference between the registration numbers
EU02 MYK and EO02 MYK.

It's becoming increasingly difficult not to take this personally. What
are the odds of this happening to the same car and being billed to me
twice by two different wardens?

This is absolutely my last correspondence on this matter. Should you be
unwise enough to pursue me for this fine, I shall gladly see you in
court. It will cost you thousands. Should you have been additionally
unwise enough to call in the bailiffs, I shall initiate a defamation
action against you, and I assure you - I will win and it will cost you
many more thousands.

Now, please find enclosed my invoice for £25 for my time and trouble
(this being the sum you last paid me as a goodwill gesture). I expect
speedy settlement, or I shall take this matter up personally with XXXX,
who agreed my previous settlement.



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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772564 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:21
Simon Gates  
BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> I'm on the second draft of Shitty Letter #1 and have incorporated
> elements of both Paul and your own suggestions. It's a bit longer
> than I like and got a bit repetitive in places but it's quoted below:
>
> Dear Helen Bailey,
>
> This letter is in reference to Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) IS1111
> which has been mistakenly issued to the incorrect vehicle registration
> number on 9th May 2006,

and follows up the phone call made to XXXX on the 7th June 2006.

"If you check the photographs associated with this PCN you will see that
the vehicle in question is a blue car registration EU02 MYK. My vehicle
is a black motorbike registration EO02 MYK.

"This is the second occasion that your department has made this mistake
with exactly the same two registration numbers, and I am not willing to
waste any more of my time dealing with your failures.

"I have no liability with respect to this PCN, and do not need to
provide you with any details of my vehicle. Further threatening letters
or demands for money will be treated as harassment. Should you wish to
proceed with this matter, I, along with the Press, will see you in court.

Yours,


> Nicholas Mooney.
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772567 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:24
chateau.murraySPAMKIL  
Beav <beavis.original [at] ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

> Send a pic and a copy of this note to MCN. They'll sort it for you, no
> problem.


Don't waste your time.


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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772568 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:24
chateau.murraySPAMKIL  
catman <catman [at] localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:14:31 +0100, BGN wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure what to say, really.
> <snip>
> >
> > When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
> > shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
> > explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking violation
> > not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS in place of a
> > CC.
>
> Just don't pay it and wait for the court date. Then go to court with the
> most expensive solicitor you can find and get damages and costs.

I'd agree, except that I'd give them *one* chance to redeem themselves.
See my suggested letter.


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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772580 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:49
Catman  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:24:24 +0100, The Older Gentleman wrote:

> catman <catman [at] localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:14:31 +0100, BGN wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not sure what to say, really.
>> <snip>
>> >
>> > When I'm in a better frame of mind I'm going to write the shittiest of
>> > shitty shit letters to that bitch who runs the Council asking her to
>> > explain why my bike has been incorrectly charged for a parking
>> > violation not once, but twice. I may well post a lump of shit to IPS
>> > in place of a CC.
>>
>> Just don't pay it and wait for the court date. Then go to court with
>> the most expensive solicitor you can find and get damages and costs.
>
> I'd agree, except that I'd give them *one* chance to redeem themselves.
> See my suggested letter.

I see where you're coming from, but AFAICT they had their chance to deal
with it over the phone. Definitely no more than one chance, though.
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772592 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 23:02
platypus  
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
>> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
>> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
>> don't then I'm liable to pay it.
>
>
> Tell her, impolitely, to fuck off and refer her to previous
> correspondence. Remind her that last time it cost the council £25.
>
> Don't waste any more time on the cunts. Simply say that if they want
> to see you in court, they can, and it will cost them thousands.

You really ought to think about writing this up for one of the bike rags.
And when it happens again (as it surely will), write it up again. This
could be a nice regular income.

--
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and there's nothing I can do
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772598 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 23:08
platypus  
BGN wrote:
>
> Mrs. IPS wants me to write a covering letter enclosing a copy of my
> motorcycle registration document to them so they can present their
> case to see if they can get the ticket written off. Evidently if I
> don't then I'm liable to pay it.

Tell her to look at /her/ photograph, and /her/ ticket, and decide for
herself if there's any discrepancy, and then decide for herself if she wants
to take further action. If she still wants to proceed, you'll see her in
court, and the court will explain things to her. And she'll be named as a
material witness by your solicitor.

--
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and there's nothing I can do
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772621 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 23:54
Paul Corfield  
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:20:10 +0100, chateau.murraySPAMKILL [at] dsl.pipex.com
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>This is absolutely my last correspondence on this matter. Should you be
>unwise enough to pursue me for this fine, I shall gladly see you in
>court. It will cost you thousands. Should you have been additionally
>unwise enough to call in the bailiffs, I shall initiate a defamation
>action against you, and I assure you - I will win and it will cost you
>many more thousands.
>
>Now, please find enclosed my invoice for £25 for my time and trouble
>(this being the sum you last paid me as a goodwill gesture). I expect
>speedy settlement, or I shall take this matter up personally with XXXX,
>who agreed my previous settlement.

I particularly like these two paragraphs. However I'd up the £25
"charge" as we are now in "beyond a joke" territory.

The letter should be short and to the point. It should also not be
overly emotional or personal - no matter how fucking angry the author
feels.
--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772637 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 00:18
sean.hamerton  
> Just done a check on your registration number... this is what show's up...
>
> Vehicle Details1 for registration number EU02MYK
> Make
> VAUXHALL
> Year of manufacture
> 2002
> Model
> ZAFIRA 16V CLUB
> Engine size(CC)
> 1598
>
>
> Ooopsie.... somethings not quite right somewhere mate :(

No, Nick's reg is EO02MYK.

The cunt who's causing him grief has EU02MYK.

The error is the blind cunts looking at the photos in IPS's archives
and whathaveyou.

--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772645 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 00:30
Simon Gates  
Mick Rouse <mick_rouse [at] SPAMTRAPbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Just done a check on your registration number... this is what show's up...
>
> Vehicle Details1 for registration number EU02MYK
> Make
> VAUXHALL


Have you considered becoming a parking attendent for Islington Council?
You appear to have all the necessary qualifications.
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772646 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 00:35
steve auvache  
Simon Gates wrote
>Mick Rouse <mick_rouse [at] SPAMTRAPbtinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just done a check on your registration number... this is what show's up...
>>
>> Vehicle Details1 for registration number EU02MYK
>> Make
>> VAUXHALL
>
>
>Have you considered becoming a parking attendent for Islington Council?
>You appear to have all the necessary qualifications.

I dunno, he appears able to read a number plate accurately and write it
down as well, this would suggest he is grossly overqualified.



--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772655 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 00:58
Simon Gates  
steve auvache <dont_spam [at] thecow.me.uk> wrote:
> Simon Gates wrote
>>Mick Rouse <mick_rouse [at] SPAMTRAPbtinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just done a check on your registration number... this is what show's up...
>>>
>>> Vehicle Details1 for registration number EU02MYK
>>> Make
>>> VAUXHALL
>>
>>
>>Have you considered becoming a parking attendent for Islington Council?
>>You appear to have all the necessary qualifications.
>
> I dunno, he appears able to read a number plate accurately and write it
> down as well


Not actually written the right plate down though, has he.
Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772673 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 02:13
SP  
BGN wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:32:58 +0200, "WavyDavy" <dnk.haines [at] wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > As a former council employee, I doubt that(a) Helen wasserface will
> > ever see the letter and (b) the person tasked with reading it and
> > replying to it will be cannon fodder stuck there to take the flak
> > whoi'll then just get pissed off with you.
>
> I work for a large company and know that letters to the MD are read
> and sorted out by someone else. I've done it myself.
>
> > I'd go with TOGs suggestion or, in a similar vein, send the penalty
> > notice back with a piece of A4 with huge capirtals reading:
> > "PLEASE CHECK WITH DVLA AS TO THE CORRECT IDENTITY FOR THE VEHICLE
> > WITH THIS REGISTRATION"
>
> The thing is, the correct identity of the person on the PCN is me,
> because they wrote down my registration mark.

He didn't state person, he stated vehicle.

Ooh look what I found..

http://www.rac.co.uk/web/carbuying/vehicle_data_search/;jsessionid=2E6D7
E946879BC993621FE99CFEB79E1

They need to employ someone wiva clue...

--
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Re: I'm lost for words. Islington Parking Services bites back [message #772674 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 02:16
SP  
The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Beav <beavis.original [at] ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
> > Send a pic and a copy of this note to MCN. They'll sort it for you,
> > no problem.
>
>
> Don't waste your time.

That's the same rag that trotted out the same bile about the TT
marshalls this week, then. Gosh, they've been busy putting people
'undercover' 2 years on the run to find exactly the same problems.

No wonder I stopped buying it years ago, bloody sensationalist shite.

--
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