| wheel question [message #762841] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 06:40 |
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Slightly OT, my daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking at
aftermarket wheels and having trouble finding the proper offset.
factory: 52mm
he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to 45mm
Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer is better than farther'
please. Is this difference a problem or a minor detail? Long term effects?
Short term effects?
I don't think it matters but just in case, the bolt pattern is 5x114.3.
TIA
Chris
99BBB
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| Re: wheel question [message #762858 ] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 23:12 |
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Small varations are ok. And offset plus wheel width are really part of =
the same equation.
tiretack.com lists wheels in the range of 38 to 45 for this car and i =
don't think they would offer anything that was not appropiate. =20
Also there is a great little wheel offset calculator tool on =
americanracing.com web site under 'tech center'. There you will see the =
change in wheel position relative to the strut and how much further out =
the wheel might protrude vs the original.
"Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagnolo [at] alltel.net> wrote in message =
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> Slightly OT, my daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking at=20
> aftermarket wheels and having trouble finding the proper offset.
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> factory: 52mm
> he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to 45mm
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> Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer is better than =
farther'=20
> please. Is this difference a problem or a minor detail? Long term =
effects?=20
> Short term effects?
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> I don't think it matters but just in case, the bolt pattern is =
5x114.3.
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> TIA
> Chris
> 99BBB=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Small varations are ok. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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offset=20
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you will see the change in wheel position relative to the strut and how =
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further out the wheel might protrude vs the original.</FONT></DIV>
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Slightly OT, my=20
daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking at <BR>> =
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factory:=20
52mm<BR>> he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to=20
45mm<BR>> <BR>> Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer =
is better=20
than farther' <BR>> please. Is this difference a problem or a minor =
detail?=20
Long term effects? <BR>> Short term effects?<BR>> <BR>> I don't =
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| Re: wheel question [message #762860 ] |
Tue, 06 June 2006 00:27 |
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Thanks Christopher (has a nice ring doesn't it ;-) I'll check it out.
More input is welcome in the mean time.
Chris
99BBB
"Christopher Muto" <muto [at] worldnt.att.net> wrote in message =
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Small varations are ok. And offset plus wheel width are really part =
of the same equation.
tiretack.com lists wheels in the range of 38 to 45 for this car and i =
don't think they would offer anything that was not appropiate. =20
Also there is a great little wheel offset calculator tool on =
americanracing.com web site under 'tech center'. There you will see the =
change in wheel position relative to the strut and how much further out =
the wheel might protrude vs the original.
"Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagnolo [at] alltel.net> wrote in message =
news:4e385$4483b5a3$471d4e46$4929 [at] ALLTEL.NET...
> Slightly OT, my daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking =
at=20
> aftermarket wheels and having trouble finding the proper offset.
>=20
> factory: 52mm
> he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to 45mm
>=20
> Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer is better than =
farther'=20
> please. Is this difference a problem or a minor detail? Long term =
effects?=20
> Short term effects?
>=20
> I don't think it matters but just in case, the bolt pattern is =
5x114.3.
>=20
> TIA
> Chris
> 99BBB=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Christopher (has a nice ring =
doesn't it ;-)=20
I'll check it out.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More input is welcome in the mean=20
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>99BBB</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Small varations are ok. =
And offset=20
plus wheel width are really part of the same equation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-2023906-10374977">tiretack.com</A>=
lists=20
wheels in the range of 38 to 45 for this car and i don't think =
they would=20
offer anything that was not appropiate. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also there is a great little wheel =
offset=20
calculator tool on americanracing.com web site under 'tech =
center'. =20
There you will see the change in wheel position relative to the strut =
and how=20
much further out the wheel might protrude vs the =
original.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Chris D'Agnolo" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:cdagnolo [at] alltel.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>cdagnolo [at] alltel.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote in=20
message </FONT><A =
href=3D"news:4e385$4483b5a3$471d4e46$4929 [at] ALLTEL.NET"><FONT=20
face=3DArial =
size=3D2>news:4e385$4483b5a3$471d4e46$4929 [at] ALLTEL.NET</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
Slightly OT, my=20
daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking at <BR>> =
aftermarket=20
wheels and having trouble finding the proper offset.<BR>> <BR>> =
factory:=20
52mm<BR>> he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to =
45mm<BR>> <BR>> Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer =
is=20
better than farther' <BR>> please. Is this difference a problem or =
a minor=20
detail? Long term effects? <BR>> Short term effects?<BR>> =
<BR>> I=20
don't think it matters but just in case, the bolt pattern is =
5x114.3.<BR>>=20
<BR>> TIA<BR>> Chris<BR>> 99BBB <BR>> <BR>></FONT>=20
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| Re: wheel question [message #768572 ] |
Wed, 07 June 2006 22:33 |
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Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Slightly OT, my daughters boyfriend has a Mazda 3 and he's looking at
> aftermarket wheels and having trouble finding the proper offset.
>
> factory: 52mm
> he says most aftermarket wheels he's interested in: 40 to 45mm
>
> Can you guys help him out with more than 'closer is better than farther'
> please. Is this difference a problem or a minor detail? Long term effects?
> Short term effects?
>
> I don't think it matters but just in case, the bolt pattern is 5x114.3.
The correct offset gives zero scrub radius and will preserve the
handling characteristics of the car. Less offset - which puts the
wheels more outboard - should only be chosen if a wider wheel will hit
the suspension using the normal offset, or if a wider track is felt to
be more important than maintaining zero scrub radius (Lanny may have an
expert view on the latter; both my wheelsets are standard Mazda so I
haven't tried it).
Otherwise, the correct offset does not change for different wheel widths.
MX-5/Miata owners have had this problem for a long time, because the NA
was designed for a 45mm offset and most aftermarket wheels in MX-5 sizes
were 37mm or thereabouts. The 8mm never seemed to be a big issue for
most people, so the difference between 52mm and 45mm probably isn't, either.
http://www.miata.net/garage/offset.htm
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| Re: wheel question [message #768576 ] |
Thu, 08 June 2006 04:38 |
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In article <44873a19.0 [at] entanet>,
Zog The Undeniable <hrothgar19 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> The correct offset gives zero scrub radius and will preserve the
> handling characteristics of the car. Less offset - which puts the
> wheels more outboard - should only be chosen if a wider wheel will hit
> the suspension using the normal offset, or if a wider track is felt to
> be more important than maintaining zero scrub radius (Lanny may have an
> expert view on the latter; both my wheelsets are standard Mazda so I
> haven't tried it).
Lanny assumes, since there's a bit of a spread in offset among the OEM
wheels offered over the years, that small differences are not very
important. I wouldn't worry too much as long as nothing rubs and
everything fits inside the fenders.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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