| Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524756] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 15:34 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
S'probably got a cracked subframe.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524757 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 15:38 |
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In article <iCeytRmPmIgDJAaa [at] rcav8r.demon.co.uk>,
Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>
> S'probably got a cracked subframe.
Someone's nicked their robot too.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524766 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 16:20 |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>
>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
Heh. Having read about this in the week, I knew what the story would
be before I clicked on the link.
ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal bike
that will do genuine 250mph, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons he needs
700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been built).
Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a *VERY* large turbo
is being fitted.
Hubba hubba hubba.
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Champ
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524771 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 16:23 |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
<news [at] champ.org.uk> typed
>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
><wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>>
>>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
>
>Heh. Having read about this in the week, I knew what the story would
>be before I clicked on the link.
>
>ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal bike
>that will do genuine 250mph
What, like 1.79 well-screwed-together Nortons?
>, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons he needs
>700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been built).
>Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a *VERY* large turbo
>is being fitted.
>
>Hubba hubba hubba.
Indeed.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524786 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 17:00 |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>
>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
Worse than the previous probe. The "Ducati" got to within 53 feet
before croaking.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524787 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 17:01 |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
<NOSPAMgingerbloke [at] OMITTHISgmail.com> typed
>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
><wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>>
>>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
>
>Worse than the previous probe. The "Ducati" got to within 53 feet
>before croaking.
Yeah, but fair play, it did it on 40-year old technology.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524802 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 17:25 |
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524813 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 17:49 |
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524832 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 18:18 |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:01:50 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
><NOSPAMgingerbloke [at] OMITTHISgmail.com> typed
>>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>><wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>>>
>>>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
>>
>>Worse than the previous probe. The "Ducati" got to within 53 feet
>>before croaking.
>
>Yeah, but fair play, it did it on 40-year old technology.
The waterpump probe.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524850 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 18:23 |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
<NOSPAMgingerbloke [at] OMITTHISgmail.com> typed
>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:01:50 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
><wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
>><NOSPAMgingerbloke [at] OMITTHISgmail.com> typed
>>>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>>><wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
>>>>
>>>>S'probably got a cracked subframe.
>>>
>>>Worse than the previous probe. The "Ducati" got to within 53 feet
>>>before croaking.
>>
>>Yeah, but fair play, it did it on 40-year old technology.
>
>The waterpump probe.
>
Paging Cane and Blaney....
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #524854 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 18:38 |
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Ben wrote:
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> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:20:47 +0000, Champ <news [at] champ.org.uk> wrote:
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> >
> > ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal bike
> > that will do genuine 250mph, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons he needs
> > 700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been built).
> > Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a VERY large turbo
> > is being fitted.
>
> Given that it'll do almost a true 200 with 180 odd bhp, do you really
> need 700 to do 250? Sounds a bit on the high side to me.
180 = k * 200^3
k = 180 / 200^3
P = (180 / 200^3) * 250^3
P = 351
So you'd expect 350 or so bhp to be enough.
I had a quick scout round the internet, and it seems that a chap called
John Noonan has a turbocharged Hyabusa that's done 250mph. The bike was
also the HP record holder in some class or other, and has been measured
at 545bhp. Apparently he had the boost turned down to "under 400" for
the record attempt.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #525041 ] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 23:18 |
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"Champ" <news [at] champ.org.uk> wrote in message
news:it41o1p9fsc50gatt2jlvaolvnaa0437gg [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> <wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4454152.stm
> >
> >S'probably got a cracked subframe.
>
> Heh. Having read about this in the week, I knew what the story would
> be before I clicked on the link.
>
> ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal bike
> that will do genuine 250mph, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons he needs
> 700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been built).
> Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a *VERY* large turbo
> is being fitted.
>
> Hubba hubba hubba.
>
> --
> Champ
Yes it is a VERY large turbo !! Frosty gave me the full tour last week and
also ran his current busa record bike up, very quite considering. He also
does unbelievable things with busa engined kit cars and elise's. Talks about
16 custom injectors not delivering enough fuel. Fantastic workshop and dyno
setup. If you ever need a run doing with or without adjustments it is well
worth a visit up to Bradford.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #525163 ] |
Mon, 21 November 2005 10:51 |
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Simian wrote:
> Ben wrote:
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>>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:20:47 +0000, Champ <news [at] champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal bike
>>>that will do genuine 250mph, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons he needs
>>>700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been built).
>>>Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a VERY large turbo
>>>is being fitted.
>>
>>Given that it'll do almost a true 200 with 180 odd bhp, do you really
>>need 700 to do 250? Sounds a bit on the high side to me.
>
>
> 180 = k * 200^3
>
> k = 180 / 200^3
>
> P = (180 / 200^3) * 250^3
>
> P = 351
>
> So you'd expect 350 or so bhp to be enough.
>
> I had a quick scout round the internet, and it seems that a chap called
> John Noonan has a turbocharged Hyabusa that's done 250mph. The bike was
> also the HP record holder in some class or other, and has been measured
> at 545bhp. Apparently he had the boost turned down to "under 400" for
> the record attempt.
It's not in a vacuum, you know. Air is rather dense and bikes are not
the most aerodynamic shape to force through it.
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p LotR#9
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #528667 ] |
Tue, 22 November 2005 00:40 |
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prawn wrote:
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> Simian wrote:
> > Ben wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:20:47 +0000, Champ <news [at] champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ObHayabusa: Jared Frost is attempting to build a street legal
> > > > bike that will do genuine 250mph, based on a Hayabusa. Reckons
> > > > he needs 700bhp (apparently 600+bhp 'busas have already been
> > > > built). Apparently the capacity will stay the same, but a VERY
> > > > large turbo is being fitted.
> > >
> > > Given that it'll do almost a true 200 with 180 odd bhp, do you
> > > really need 700 to do 250? Sounds a bit on the high side to me.
> >
> > 180 = k * 200^3
> > k = 180 / 200^3
> > P = (180 / 200^3) * 250^3
> > P = 351
> > So you'd expect 350 or so bhp to be enough.
> >
> > I had a quick scout round the internet, and it seems that a chap
> > called John Noonan has a turbocharged Hyabusa that's done 250mph.
> > Apparently he had the boost turned down to "under 400" for the
> > record attempt.
>
> It's not in a vacuum, you know. Air is rather dense and bikes are
> not the most aerodynamic shape to force through it.
You're being that stupid for a bet, right?
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #528670 ] |
Tue, 22 November 2005 00:44 |
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Simian said...
> prawn wrote:
> > It's not in a vacuum, you know. Air is rather dense and bikes are
> > not the most aerodynamic shape to force through it.
>
> You're being that stupid for a bet, right?
I was chatting to the guy who runs 200mph.org and he said that wind
tunnel tests had shown the K1/K2 Gixer Thou to be aerodynamically
unsuitable for speeds above 195mph, even if the engine could get it
there. The Hyabusa is good for approx 280mph according to the man who
knows these things.
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Lozzo
GSX-R1000 K1
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #528680 ] |
Tue, 22 November 2005 01:13 |
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In article <MPG.1dec6c3d820131ff98969f [at] news.individual.net>, Lozzo
says...
> aerodynamically
> unsuitable for speeds above 195mph
That needs to go on a T-shirt, but should only be availabale in XXL.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #528681 ] |
Tue, 22 November 2005 01:13 |
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Lozzo wrote:
> Simian said...
> > prawn wrote:
>
> > > It's not in a vacuum, you know. Air is rather dense and bikes are
> > > not the most aerodynamic shape to force through it.
> >
> > You're being that stupid for a bet, right?
>
> I was chatting to the guy who runs 200mph.org and he said that wind
> tunnel tests had shown the K1/K2 Gixer Thou to be aerodynamically
> unsuitable for speeds above 195mph, even if the engine could get it
> there. The Hyabusa is good for approx 280mph according to the man who
> knows these things.
I'm not that surprised, really. All of the over-300mph bikes seem to be
streamliners with respectable, rather than huge power. You'd have
thought that sombody was bound to have had a go with a standard-ish
bike by now if it was as simple as bunging a big turbo on.
All the effort that guy went to, to get to 250-odd,on his big bore
turbo 'busa, when he's got an engine that will put out 150bhp more than
he was using... sounds like power isn't the limiting factor.
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| Re: Hayabusa Technical Hitch [message #528684 ] |
Tue, 22 November 2005 01:18 |
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Simian said...
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Simian said...
> > > prawn wrote:
> >
> > > > It's not in a vacuum, you know. Air is rather dense and bikes are
> > > > not the most aerodynamic shape to force through it.
> > >
> > > You're being that stupid for a bet, right?
> >
> > I was chatting to the guy who runs 200mph.org and he said that wind
> > tunnel tests had shown the K1/K2 Gixer Thou to be aerodynamically
> > unsuitable for speeds above 195mph, even if the engine could get it
> > there. The Hyabusa is good for approx 280mph according to the man who
> > knows these things.
>
> I'm not that surprised, really. All of the over-300mph bikes seem to be
> streamliners with respectable, rather than huge power. You'd have
> thought that sombody was bound to have had a go with a standard-ish
> bike by now if it was as simple as bunging a big turbo on.
>
> All the effort that guy went to, to get to 250-odd,on his big bore
> turbo 'busa, when he's got an engine that will put out 150bhp more than
> he was using... sounds like power isn't the limiting factor.
Precisely. His reckoning was that even 200bhp from a Gixer motor
wouldn't make it go much faster than it already does at the top end, the
limiting factor is the lack of aerodynamic sophistication.
Personally, I haven't a clue if this is correct, I'm just passing on
what I was told.
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GSX-R1000 K1
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775488 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 13:39 |
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"Andy Bonwick" <nospam [at] bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
> Going by the silence I think I'm one of very few who hasn't killfiled
> you again. You need to try again with a truly original posting name
> that nobody will suss out.
Good plan. *changes posting name...*
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775569 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 17:16 |
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775585 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 17:51 |
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"Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> Your sigsep's still fucked.
How? It's got them wee lines and everything innit?
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775620 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 19:02 |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:51:01 GMT, "Porridgewog SV1k" <f.o [at] d> wrote:
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>"Whinging Courier" <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>> Your sigsep's still fucked.
>
>How? It's got them wee lines and everything innit?
Wee Line, Wee Line, Space
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775653 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 19:59 |
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"BGN" <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote in message
> Wee Line, Wee Line, Space
That it?
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775657 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 20:04 |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:59:38 GMT, "Porridgewog SV1k" <f.o [at] d> wrote:
>> Wee Line, Wee Line, Space
>
>That it?
No. There was no space. I think part of your problem might be
Lookout Distress.
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775668 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 20:33 |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:59:38 GMT, "Porridgewog SV1k" <f.o [at] d> wrote:
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>"BGN" <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net> wrote in message
>
>> Wee Line, Wee Line, Space
>
>That it?
It might be correct if your Outlook Express didn't delete the final
space of the line for you.
I gather there are fixes, but I prefer to use Agent as my newsreader,
it works so much better.
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VN1500-j1 (Gertrude) Twice the fun at half the speed.
chris.desclayes at ffcc dot powernet dot co dot uk
But minus one "f"
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| Re: Hayabusa [message #775671 ] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 21:02 |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:02:39 +0100, BGN <nickmooney [at] spamcop.net>
wrote:
>Wee Line, Wee Line, Space
*return*
Plus Quotefix.
Yet /much/ better - a proper newsreader.
Best of all - let him fuck off into the ether.
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