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Motorcycles » alt.motorcycles.harley » Shovel help
| Shovel help [message #504475] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 19:03 |
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My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it started
making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel the
vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from the
front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes while
kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file to a
similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing the
covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when at
a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has plenty
of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it could be
too. Thanks for any insight.
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Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504476 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 20:44 |
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Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com:
> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
> last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
> started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
> problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
> and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it started
> making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel the
> vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from the
> front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes while
> kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file to a
> similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing the
> covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
> ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
> what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
> and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
> side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when at
> a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has plenty
> of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it could be
> too. Thanks for any insight.
I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe a
sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with the
valve(?).
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TK®
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504477 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 21:05 |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:44:28 -0600, "TK®" <randomerror [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
>news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com:
>
>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
>> last night.
>I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe a
>sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with the
>valve(?).
Thanks for the diagnosis TK. I wonder if I can peek down the spark
plug hole and see evidence of that? I guess the valve stem gets most
if not all its lubrication from above. Maybe not enough oil is getting
to it or something.
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504478 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 21:22 |
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Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:qt3qm19nkd1sbp6n36u2d7ur1599ou7g7j [at] 4ax.com:
>>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from
>>> work last night.
>
>>I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe a
>>sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with the
>>valve(?).
>
> Thanks for the diagnosis TK. I wonder if I can peek down the spark
> plug hole and see evidence of that? I guess the valve stem gets most
> if not all its lubrication from above. Maybe not enough oil is getting
> to it or something.
It might work. On my old ironhead I could see the valves opening an
closing by peeking through the plug hole. And maybe you can find
some 'evidence' on top of the piston (I hope not!). Try also 'reading'
the plugs. If there is trouble in one of the jugs they definately should
look different.
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TK®
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504479 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 21:45 |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:22:11 -0600, "TK®" <randomerror [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
>news:qt3qm19nkd1sbp6n36u2d7ur1599ou7g7j [at] 4ax.com:
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>>>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from
>>>> work last night.
>>
>>>I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe a
>>>sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with the
>>>valve(?).
>>
>> Thanks for the diagnosis TK. I wonder if I can peek down the spark
>> plug hole and see evidence of that? I guess the valve stem gets most
>> if not all its lubrication from above. Maybe not enough oil is getting
>> to it or something.
>
>It might work. On my old ironhead I could see the valves opening an
>closing by peeking through the plug hole. And maybe you can find
>some 'evidence' on top of the piston (I hope not!). Try also 'reading'
>the plugs. If there is trouble in one of the jugs they definately should
>look different.
When I pulled the plugs to record the sound they looked excellent.
Both had a slight tan coloration and were very clean. No oil or debris
of any kind on them. The bike still ran fine after the backfiring and
misfiring quit happening. I think whatever it is it isn't something
that prevents the motor from running right. Makes me think it's a
broken spring or something. I don't suppose the front rocker cover can
be removed with the head still on?
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504480 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 22:09 |
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Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:3e6qm1h73ntpfhpqi8qih98pq9f4pdjb50 [at] 4ax.com:
>>>>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from
>>>>> work last night.
>>>
>>>>I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe
>>>>a sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with
>>>>the valve(?).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the diagnosis TK. I wonder if I can peek down the spark
>>> plug hole and see evidence of that? I guess the valve stem gets most
>>> if not all its lubrication from above. Maybe not enough oil is
>>> getting to it or something.
>>
>>It might work. On my old ironhead I could see the valves opening an
>>closing by peeking through the plug hole. And maybe you can find
>>some 'evidence' on top of the piston (I hope not!). Try also 'reading'
>>the plugs. If there is trouble in one of the jugs they definately
>>should look different.
>
> When I pulled the plugs to record the sound they looked excellent.
> Both had a slight tan coloration and were very clean. No oil or debris
> of any kind on them. The bike still ran fine after the backfiring and
> misfiring quit happening. I think whatever it is it isn't something
> that prevents the motor from running right. Makes me think it's a
> broken spring or something. I don't suppose the front rocker cover can
> be removed with the head still on?
> --
I'm not sure. It seems to me that there's enough room between head and
frametube(?). Hope someone in this group can acknowledge this. It worked
on my ironhead though(see pic in abpmh).
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TK®
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504482 ] |
Sun, 06 November 2005 00:09 |
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Well Harold it could be anything, but if I had to make a choice as to what
the noise is I'd say it's a broken valve spring.
Diablo
"Harold Gailey" <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com...
> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
> last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
> started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
> problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
> and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it started
> making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel the
> vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from the
> front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes while
> kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file to a
> similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing the
> covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
> ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
> what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
> and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
> side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when at
> a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has plenty
> of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it could be
> too. Thanks for any insight.
> --
>
> Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
> 78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other
> Weather.
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504483 ] |
Sun, 06 November 2005 00:13 |
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You can pull the head with the motor in the frame, the rocker box will come
off after the head is removed.
--
Brian Wottlč
VROC #16131
ROG #180
2004 VN2000, Metallic Majestic Red
http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=19106
"Harold Gailey" <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3e6qm1h73ntpfhpqi8qih98pq9f4pdjb50 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:22:11 -0600, "TK®" <randomerror [at] hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Harold Gailey <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in
>>news:qt3qm19nkd1sbp6n36u2d7ur1599ou7g7j [at] 4ax.com:
>>
>>>>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from
>>>>> work last night.
>>>
>>>>I heard the sound. Very hard to tell. I would check my valves. Maybe a
>>>>sticky valve? If it is, maybe your piston is making contact with the
>>>>valve(?).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the diagnosis TK. I wonder if I can peek down the spark
>>> plug hole and see evidence of that? I guess the valve stem gets most
>>> if not all its lubrication from above. Maybe not enough oil is getting
>>> to it or something.
>>
>>It might work. On my old ironhead I could see the valves opening an
>>closing by peeking through the plug hole. And maybe you can find
>>some 'evidence' on top of the piston (I hope not!). Try also 'reading'
>>the plugs. If there is trouble in one of the jugs they definately should
>>look different.
>
> When I pulled the plugs to record the sound they looked excellent.
> Both had a slight tan coloration and were very clean. No oil or debris
> of any kind on them. The bike still ran fine after the backfiring and
> misfiring quit happening. I think whatever it is it isn't something
> that prevents the motor from running right. Makes me think it's a
> broken spring or something. I don't suppose the front rocker cover can
> be removed with the head still on?
> --
>
> Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
> 78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other
> Weather.
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504486 ] |
Sun, 06 November 2005 04:13 |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:13:13 -0500, "diablo" <nomail [at] spam.not> wrote:
>You can pull the head with the motor in the frame, the rocker box will come
>off after the head is removed.
Thanks. I figured I wouldn't get away without pulling the head. Oh
well, I guess if it's broken I probably can't hurt it too much trying
to fix it myself.
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #504487 ] |
Sun, 06 November 2005 04:14 |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:09:02 -0500, "diablo" <nomail [at] spam.not> wrote:
>Well Harold it could be anything, but if I had to make a choice as to what
>the noise is I'd say it's a broken valve spring.
>
>Diablo
I'm kind of leaning that way and even hoping that's what it is. That
is probably something I can attempt to fix myself. I may need a valve
spring compressor but they probably aren't too pricey.
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541485 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 14:16 |
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I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
machines).
Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
said "I love you" haha
Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if you
are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it until it
breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and buying
an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
"Harold Gailey" <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com...
> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
> last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
> started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
> problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
> and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it started
> making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel the
> vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from the
> front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes while
> kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file to a
> similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing the
> covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
> ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
> what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
> and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
> side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when at
> a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has plenty
> of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it could be
> too. Thanks for any insight.
> --
>
> Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
> 78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other
> Weather.
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541486 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 14:25 |
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I just caught the oil light situation. Get a new oil pump. It`s cheap
insurance.
"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>machines).
> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
> said "I love you" haha
> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
> "Harold Gailey" <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com...
>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
>> last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
>> started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
>> problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
>> and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it started
>> making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel the
>> vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from the
>> front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes while
>> kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file to a
>> similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing the
>> covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
>> ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
>> what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
>> and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
>> side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when at
>> a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has plenty
>> of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it could be
>> too. Thanks for any insight.
>> --
>>
>> Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
>> 78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other
>> Weather.
>> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541489 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 15:55 |
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"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>machines).
> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
> said "I love you" haha
> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
You're buying a 2006 Evo???
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541490 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 16:04 |
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"MH" the topposter wrote in
news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04:
> I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
> machines).
> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before
> she said "I love you" haha
> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block,
> Rocker/Rocker block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to
> tell without hearing. But clean plugs are a sign of a good running
> motor, and depending on if you are as anal as me, and it`s not
> knocking like hell, you can ride it until it breaks, or tear it apart,
> find and fix it.
Maybe it's an idea to read a complete thread before you respond?!
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TK®
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541494 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 17:15 |
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MH sed:
> > P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet.
> >I`m breaking down and buying an EVO finally!
Les axed:
> You're buying a 2006 Evo???
No, I think he's just going to bench press it...
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ASSHOLE #104 Len
I've got a 2003 Shovel...
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541495 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 17:26 |
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"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> top posted ..
> "Harold Gailey" wrote...
snipped Harold's problem cause it looks like he's got it under control but
you would have none that if you would have lurked first.
>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>machines).
Age has nothing to do with it. That's just how shovels are.
> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
> said "I love you" haha
> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
You're just chocked full of insight.
> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
And you won't. That model has the TC motor.
And if you thought the shovels are noisy, boy are you in for a surprise.
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541498 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 21:04 |
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Life must be good to waste time talkin` BS on some newsgroup.I thought these
were used to get INFORMATION. Not try out a suburban comedy club act. Take a
break once in a while, and FINALLY do something to your `99 DYNA. haha (I`m
interested)
"AH#104" <ah104 [at] yourhatatt.net> wrote in message
news:kwjkf.216137$zb5.189156 [at] bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> MH sed:
>> > P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet.
>> >I`m breaking down and buying an EVO finally!
>
> Les axed:
>> You're buying a 2006 Evo???
>
> No, I think he's just going to bench press it...
>
> --
> ASSHOLE #104 Len
> I've got a 2003 Shovel...
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541500 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 20:16 |
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"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
news:QSmkf.1603$Yh2.1162 [at] trndny01...
> Life must be good to waste time talkin` BS on some newsgroup.I thought
these
> were used to get INFORMATION. Not try out a suburban comedy club act.
Uh, someone rang?
Trust me.. I won't try my comedy here. But I may be coming to a town near
all of you.
Russ
www.americasfunniestbiker.com
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541503 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 21:50 |
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"Russ Nagel" <russnagel [at] cox.NOT> wrote:
> Trust me.. I won't try my comedy here. But I may be coming to a
> town near all of you.
>
> Russ
> www.americasfunniestbiker.com
America's funniest? We'll be the judges of that.
But hey! You might just be.
You going to play Bike Week? Might be a fun gig for a bunch of
NetScum to come to.
--
StT
what you want fo nuthin'? Rrrrrubbbah biscuit?
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541504 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 21:17 |
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"Spunky the Tuna" <BogusmailName [at] no.net> wrote
> America's funniest? We'll be the judges of that.
>
> But hey! You might just be.
>
> You going to play Bike Week? Might be a fun gig for a bunch of
> NetScum to come to.
Judge away. As long as the check clears at the end of the gig.
As far as Bike week goes... I'll be in Jacksonville, FL the week before
Daytona and we are in negotiations to do a club in Daytona Beach the week
of.
I'm also in negotiations with the Comedy Cabana in Myrtle Beach to perform
there during May 12-21 bike week.
Should be in Charlotte, NC for the Easyriders show, I believe in February.
Just did Las Vegas Bikefest at The Comedy Zone in Sept.
And we haven't heard from Sturgis.
Russ
www.americasfunniestbiker.com
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541505 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 22:35 |
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MH wrote:
> Life must be good to waste time talkin` BS on some newsgroup.
And you are here wasting your time posting to it for what reason, exactly?
>I thought these
> were used to get INFORMATION.
BINGO!
So why do you refuse to learn, you jack ass?
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541507 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 22:38 |
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"Russ Nagel" <russnagel [at] cox.NOT> wrote:
> Judge away. As long as the check clears at the end of the gig.
Good attitude. Leave 'em laughing and leave town. I like it.
>
> As far as Bike week goes... I'll be in Jacksonville, FL the week
> before Daytona and we are in negotiations to do a club in
> Daytona Beach the week of.
As luck would have it, some of us are in Jax. Where are you going to
be? Could be fun to have a SENS at the Comedy Club thing.
--
StT
what you want fo nuthin'? Rrrrrubbbah biscuit?
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541508 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 21:44 |
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"Spunky the Tuna" <BogusmailName [at] no.net> wrote
> As luck would have it, some of us are in Jax. Where are you going to
> be? Could be fun to have a SENS at the Comedy Club thing.
The Comedy Zone inside the Ramada Inn in Mandarin. Just off the 295 and San
Jose.
Feb 28-Mar 4
One show Tue-Fri. 2 Shows Sat nite.
--
Russ
www.americasfunniestbiker.com
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541509 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 23:00 |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 13:16:02 GMT, "MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net>
wrote:
>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>machines).
>Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
>said "I love you" haha
>Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
>block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
>But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if you
>are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it until it
>breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
Thanks for the reply. Better late than never I guess. In case you
missed the rest of the thread it was a tappet that broke taking out
my cam and leaving lots of bits of metal in the gearcase. As an update
I picked up my shovel this morning and on the ride home it started
making some loud clatter. I turned around and headed back to the shop
and the clatter stopped about a mile later but continued with some
ticking. John suspected one of the hydraulic units was sticking but
double checked the pushrod adjustments while I waited and at startup
everything again sounded normal. About halfway home the second time
the ticking resumed so I called him and will drop it back off Tuesday
for at least one new hydraulic unit or maybe a set.
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541510 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 23:07 |
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"Russ Nagel" <russnagel [at] cox.NOT> wrote:
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> "Spunky the Tuna" <BogusmailName [at] no.net> wrote
>
>> As luck would have it, some of us are in Jax. Where are you
>> going to be? Could be fun to have a SENS at the Comedy Club
>> thing.
>
> The Comedy Zone inside the Ramada Inn in Mandarin. Just off the
> 295 and San Jose.
>
Cool. I'll try and make it.
You'll recognize me. I'll be the big bald guy sitting on the
front row with my arms crossed saying things like "That shit ain't
funny, man!"
No, seriously, Ms. Mouse and I will make every effort to be there.
We'll even bring our bull riding judging cards so you'll know how
you're doing.
--
StT
what you want fo nuthin'? Rrrrrubbbah biscuit?
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541511 ] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 22:16 |
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"Spunky the Tuna" <BogusmailName [at] no.net> wrote
> You'll recognize me. I'll be the big bald guy sitting on the
> front row with my arms crossed saying things like "That shit ain't
> funny, man!"
And I'll be the comic on stage thinkin' "Man, that big bald guy isn't
laughing. Oh well. I got his money at the door." :)
--
Russ
www.americasfunniestbiker.com
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541515 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 01:58 |
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"Jan Hammer" <fun [at] keyboards.gov> wrote in message
news:pcokf.513$L7.101 [at] fe12.lga...
> MH wrote:
> > Life must be good to waste time talkin` BS on some newsgroup.
>
> And you are here wasting your time posting to it for what reason, exactly?
You missed it. He's selling something. Three posts of
bullshit, and two of advertising.
roach
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541518 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 04:16 |
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"AH#104" <ah104 [at] yourhatatt.net> wrote in message
news:kwjkf.216137$zb5.189156 [at] bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> MH sed:
>> > P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet.
>> >I`m breaking down and buying an EVO finally!
>
> Les axed:
>> You're buying a 2006 Evo???
>
> No, I think he's just going to bench press it...
Might as well, he'll have as much luck bench pressing it as buying that '06
Street Glide Evo.
> ASSHOLE #104 Len
> I've got a 2003 Shovel...
That anything like R.E.'s custom Shovel?
Les
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541519 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 05:15 |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 08:55:23 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
wrote:
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>"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>>machines).
>> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before she
>> said "I love you" haha
>> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
>> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without hearing.
>> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
>> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
>> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
>> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
>> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
>
>You're buying a 2006 Evo???
Besides th' fact that he's an idjut, one can purchase a brandy new
2006 Flattie, Knucklehead, Pan, and/or Shovel.
Snarl... the "bettin' th' idjut meant Twin Cam too" Asshole(tm)
--
Snarl AH#67 BS#37 SENS
EKIII rides with me...
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541520 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 05:20 |
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<snarl67 [at] trippin.net> wrote in message
news:q1r4p15onjq2u51t7upg5d05gh78lde9p9 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 08:55:23 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>>>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>>>machines).
>>> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before
>>> she
>>> said "I love you" haha
>>> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
>>> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without
>>> hearing.
>>> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
>>> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
>>> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
>>> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
>>> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
>>
>>You're buying a 2006 Evo???
>
> Besides th' fact that he's an idjut, one can purchase a brandy new
> 2006 Flattie, Knucklehead, Pan, and/or Shovel.
>
> Snarl... the "bettin' th' idjut meant Twin Cam too" Asshole(tm)
Yeah, and I'd love to get my hands on one of those. A Knuckle would be my
preference, but a Pan would work just fine too.
Les
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541523 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 12:46 |
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MH wrote:
> Life must be good to waste time talkin` BS on some newsgroup.I thought these
> were used to get INFORMATION. Not try out a suburban comedy club act. Take a
> break once in a while, and FINALLY do something to your `99 DYNA. haha (I`m
> interested)
Boy, you're not gonna have much fun in this group. But we're gonna
have a lot of fun with you.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'74 Sporty chopper(somebody else's headache now)
TOMKAT,DOF#51,SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#13
There's only one RE!
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541532 ] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 19:11 |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 22:20:46 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
wrote:
><snarl67 [at] trippin.net> wrote in message
>news:q1r4p15onjq2u51t7upg5d05gh78lde9p9 [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 08:55:23 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>>>>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>>>>machines).
>>>> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before
>>>> she
>>>> said "I love you" haha
>>>> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block, Rocker/Rocker
>>>> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without
>>>> hearing.
>>>> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on if
>>>> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride it
>>>> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
>>>> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
>>>> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
>>>
>>>You're buying a 2006 Evo???
>>
>> Besides th' fact that he's an idjut, one can purchase a brandy new
>> 2006 Flattie, Knucklehead, Pan, and/or Shovel.
>>
>> Snarl... the "bettin' th' idjut meant Twin Cam too" Asshole(tm)
>
>Yeah, and I'd love to get my hands on one of those. A Knuckle would be my
>preference, but a Pan would work just fine too.
It's only money, like about $12-20+k: http://www.aaok.com/
Snarl... the "gentlemen, start yer shopping carts" Asshole(tm)
PS Insert standard legal disclaimer bullshit here -->
--
Snarl AH#67 BS#37 SENS
EKIII rides with me...
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| Re: Shovel help [message #541544 ] |
Mon, 05 December 2005 02:42 |
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<snarl67 [at] trippin.net> wrote in message
news:vjb6p1d5o6n4iechg9f206gneoreeso1vk [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 22:20:46 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
> wrote:
>
>><snarl67 [at] trippin.net> wrote in message
>>news:q1r4p15onjq2u51t7upg5d05gh78lde9p9 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 08:55:23 -0600, "les" <oktr6r [at] cox.chrome.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04...
>>>>>I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
>>>>>machines).
>>>>> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before
>>>>> she
>>>>> said "I love you" haha
>>>>> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block,
>>>>> Rocker/Rocker
>>>>> block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to tell without
>>>>> hearing.
>>>>> But clean plugs are a sign of a good running motor, and depending on
>>>>> if
>>>>> you are as anal as me, and it`s not knocking like hell, you can ride
>>>>> it
>>>>> until it breaks, or tear it apart, find and fix it.
>>>>> P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m breaking down and
>>>>> buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
>>>>
>>>>You're buying a 2006 Evo???
>>>
>>> Besides th' fact that he's an idjut, one can purchase a brandy new
>>> 2006 Flattie, Knucklehead, Pan, and/or Shovel.
>>>
>>> Snarl... the "bettin' th' idjut meant Twin Cam too" Asshole(tm)
>>
>>Yeah, and I'd love to get my hands on one of those. A Knuckle would be my
>>preference, but a Pan would work just fine too.
>
> It's only money, like about $12-20+k: http://www.aaok.com/
>
> Snarl... the "gentlemen, start yer shopping carts" Asshole(tm)
Damn, I've gotta get a drool cover for the keyboard for lookin' at that
site. Some interesting bikes and parts for sure.
Les
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| Re: Shovel help [message #556678 ] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 03:57 |
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"MH" <electraglide06 [at] verizon.net> wrote in
news:mUgkf.1077$ew5.434 [at] trndny04:
> I love shovels, but aged motors are notorious for motor noise. (sewing
> machines).
> Describing a sound is as tough as describing how my ex sounded before
> she said "I love you" haha
> Anyway, it could be Piston/cylinder, Lifter/Lifter block,
> Rocker/Rocker block or even your mains really. It`s really hard to
> tell without hearing. But clean plugs are a sign of a good running
> motor, and depending on if you are as anal as me, and it`s not
> knocking like hell, you can ride it until it breaks, or tear it apart,
> find and fix it. P.S. Anybody own an `06 Street Glide FLHX yet. I`m
> breaking down and buying an EVO finally! Never thought I would.
> "Harold Gailey" <hgailey [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:t2tpm1l3fjc8f7ekjkpmjua1l2fup0ah05 [at] 4ax.com...
>> My shovelhead started making a scary sound on the ride home from work
>> last night. It started while I was traveling about 70 when the motor
>> started missing and backfiring. It had gas so I suspected an ignition
>> problem. I slowed and rode the breakdown lane til it quit misfiring
>> and started running strong again, about a 1/4 mile. However it
>> started making a noise that sounded like metal on metal. I could feel
>> the vibration stongest in the air cleaner and it appears to be from
>> the front cylinder's top end. I have recorded the sound it makes
>> while kicking it over with the plugs out and attached the sound file
>> to a similar message at abpmh. I checked each pushrod after removing
>> the covers and kicking it over and the pushrods felt fine. I felt the
>> ignition mudule while kicking and it felt fine. Anybody have an idea
>> what parts are making this sound? I rode it the rest of the way home
>> and it rode fine, just kept making the noise all the way home. As a
>> side note the bike has started flashing the oil pressure light when
>> at a slow idle, increase the rpm a little and it goes out. It has
>> plenty of clean oil and this may not be related to the sound but it
>> could be too. Thanks for any insight.
>> --
>>
>> Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200
>> Stolen; 78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily
>> Rider Other Weather.
>> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
>
>
>
I had exactly the same problem with an Ironhead sportster -- you have a
valve that's sticking. Replace or ream the valve guides and you should
be fine.
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| Re: Shovel help [message #556680 ] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 05:38 |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:57:39 GMT, bigbiker71 [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>
>I had exactly the same problem with an Ironhead sportster -- you have a
>valve that's sticking. Replace or ream the valve guides and you should
>be fine.
My problem turned out to be a tappet that broke. It was the front
cylinder intake and took out the cam too. The ride home from the shop
after the repair the bike started making noise again and I took it
back and the pushrods were rechecked. The next ride home was
uneventful except for a faint ticking that will be cured with new
hydraulic units as soon as they arrive.
--
Harold Gailey - 74 CB 450 Stolen; 74 Z1 900 Traded; 76 FX 1200 Stolen;
78 FX(E) 86ci Daily Rider Nice Weather; 02 FXDX 88ci Daily Rider Other Weather.
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html
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