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| Clutch Chirp [message #503565] |
Fri, 04 November 2005 22:02 |
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Hi,
I have a 2002 Miata, 35,000 miles. There's a constant chirp when my clutch
is all the way let out (my foot off it). If I push in just barely, not
enough to really disengage anything, it stops. The chirp occurs whether I'm
in or out gear. I can hear it when I pass by a building and hear the echo
back to me. Is this just an adjustment? Something I can do (a novice)?
Thanks,
David
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #503566 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 05:39 |
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In article <AZPaf.81$%k.63 [at] bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Prometheus7" <david [at] nospammers-honeyhousedesigns.com> wrote:
> There's a constant chirp when my clutch
> is all the way let out (my foot off it). If I push in just barely, not
> enough to really disengage anything, it stops.
Apply a small dab of white lithium grease where the clutch slave
cylinder pushrod touches the throwout arm. It's just behind and inboard
of the right front wheel. Repeat at every oil change. It's not serious,
just annoying.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #503570 ] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 23:36 |
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Tried the grease and voilla! The noise stopped. Thank you. thank you.
thank you.
"Prometheus7" <david [at] nospammers-honeyhousedesigns.com> wrote in message
news:AZPaf.81$%k.63 [at] bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2002 Miata, 35,000 miles. There's a constant chirp when my
clutch
> is all the way let out (my foot off it). If I push in just barely, not
> enough to really disengage anything, it stops. The chirp occurs whether
I'm
> in or out gear. I can hear it when I pass by a building and hear the echo
> back to me. Is this just an adjustment? Something I can do (a novice)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507567 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2005 22:58 |
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Prometheus7 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2002 Miata, 35,000 miles. There's a constant chirp when my clutch
> is all the way let out (my foot off it). If I push in just barely, not
> enough to really disengage anything, it stops. The chirp occurs whether I'm
> in or out gear. I can hear it when I pass by a building and hear the echo
> back to me. Is this just an adjustment? Something I can do (a novice)?
I've got an '02 Miata SE, too, 32k miles. I'm getting a clutch chirp,
but it's only in 2nd gear and only when I really quickly shift from first
to second gear while accelerating rapidly, like 3/4 to full throttle. It's
odd that it's coming from the clutch because it really seems to come from the
rear of the car, but it's only when I'm letting the clutch out so it must
be some kind of clutch chirp.
Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The chirp
got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type supercharger
kit at 13k miles.
It's really quite bewildering.
Dana
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507569 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2005 23:31 |
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In article <F7Wdnc5LnMpoUPLeRVn-iw [at] comcast.com>,
"Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The chirp
> got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type supercharger
> kit at 13k miles.
Different chirp, Dana. The other is a tweet-tweet-tweet sound in
neutral. Yours is coming from the disk itself, as it slips under load.
If your supercharger is making it worse, expect to need a new clutch
sooner rather than later. A stronger replacement probably won't make the
noise, because it won't slip.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507570 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 01:07 |
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Lanny Chambers wrote:
> In article <F7Wdnc5LnMpoUPLeRVn-iw [at] comcast.com>,
> "Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The chirp
>>got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type supercharger
>>kit at 13k miles.
>
>
> Different chirp, Dana. The other is a tweet-tweet-tweet sound in
> neutral. Yours is coming from the disk itself, as it slips under load.
> If your supercharger is making it worse, expect to need a new clutch
> sooner rather than later. A stronger replacement probably won't make the
> noise, because it won't slip.
It isn't coming the area of the clutch; it's coming from the area
of the rear wheels and it sounds like rubber tires squealing.
Dana
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507571 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 02:45 |
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"Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>Prometheus7 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2002 Miata, 35,000 miles. There's a constant chirp when my clutch
>> is all the way let out (my foot off it). If I push in just barely, not
>> enough to really disengage anything, it stops. The chirp occurs whether I'm
>> in or out gear. I can hear it when I pass by a building and hear the echo
>> back to me. Is this just an adjustment? Something I can do (a novice)?
>
>I've got an '02 Miata SE, too, 32k miles. I'm getting a clutch chirp,
>but it's only in 2nd gear and only when I really quickly shift from first
>to second gear while accelerating rapidly, like 3/4 to full throttle. It's
>odd that it's coming from the clutch because it really seems to come from the
>rear of the car, but it's only when I'm letting the clutch out so it must
>be some kind of clutch chirp.
Does not seem necessary to me. When you are letting the clutch out,
you are also reapplying driving forces to the drive train. Something
else might conceivably chirp when a lot of thrust force is applied
while the part in question is already moving at significant rotational
speed. Uncounted possibilities from broken spot welds to LSD (car or
driver) come to mind.
>Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The chirp
>got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type supercharger
>kit at 13k miles.
I would suggest a volume level knob. :)
Leon
>It's really quite bewildering.
>
>Dana
--
Leon van Dommelen :) Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
rammm [at] dommelen.net http://www.dommelen.net/miata
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507572 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 02:47 |
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rammm [at] REMOVE_THIS_TAGdommelen.net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote in
news:m900n1pd0l3vi6tqqg42ejo2psgm46uc0r [at] 4ax.com:
>>Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The
>>chirp got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type
>>supercharger kit at 13k miles.
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> I would suggest a volume level knob. :)
Ear plugs! ;-)
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507573 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 03:14 |
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There may be a squeak or chirp coming from the bushings in the rear axle
assembly when you upshift at high throttle settings.. This usually will
occur (if it occurs) on super and turbo charged Miatas. Try lubing the
bushings with rubber lubricant. Or ignore it as I do.
"Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oP2dndHUVq6_cfLenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> Lanny Chambers wrote:
> > In article <F7Wdnc5LnMpoUPLeRVn-iw [at] comcast.com>,
> > "Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lenny suggests a lubrication point, but that hasn't helped. The chirp
> >>got worse, by quite a bit, after I installed a Sebring-type supercharger
> >>kit at 13k miles.
> >
> >
> > Different chirp, Dana. The other is a tweet-tweet-tweet sound in
> > neutral. Yours is coming from the disk itself, as it slips under load.
> > If your supercharger is making it worse, expect to need a new clutch
> > sooner rather than later. A stronger replacement probably won't make the
> > noise, because it won't slip.
>
> It isn't coming the area of the clutch; it's coming from the area
> of the rear wheels and it sounds like rubber tires squealing.
>
> Dana
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507574 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 04:18 |
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Chuck wrote:
> There may be a squeak or chirp coming from the bushings in the rear axle
> assembly when you upshift at high throttle settings.. This usually will
> occur (if it occurs) on super and turbo charged Miatas. Try lubing the
> bushings with rubber lubricant. Or ignore it as I do.
>>It isn't coming the area of the clutch; it's coming from the area
>>of the rear wheels and it sounds like rubber tires squealing.
It's not the bushing. It's the tires. It was a joke.
;-)
Dana
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507576 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 04:39 |
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"Chuck" <Chuckk2nospam [at] cox.net> wrote in
news:uSTbf.456$Mi5.439 [at] dukeread07:
> There may be a squeak or chirp coming from the bushings in the
> rear axle assembly when you upshift at high throttle settings..
> This usually will occur (if it occurs) on super and turbo charged
> Miatas. Try lubing the bushings with rubber lubricant. Or ignore
> it as I do.
Dang, doesn't anyone read before replying? <snicker>
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507577 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 04:45 |
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"Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers [at] gmail.com> wrote in
news:dqednUYLI65ghe3eRVn-iQ [at] comcast.com:
>>>It isn't coming the area of the clutch; it's coming from the area
>>>of the rear wheels and it sounds like rubber tires squealing.
> It's not the bushing. It's the tires. It was a joke.
That Zzzznnnnnngggg you hear was it flying over everyone's head! <g>
Subtlety doesn't work with this bunch! Somewhere there's a guy from
this group still working with his super computer trying to disprove
Leo's photon drag theory..... <snicker>
But, personally, I think a little humor is a good thing, this is a
pretty serious bunch here.
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507578 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 05:37 |
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Joke or not, there is an issue- On my 99 it's more of a squawk, and it's not
the tires.
Evidently, you can apply enough torque to make the dry rubber bushings move
enough to make noise.
"XS11E" <xs11eNO [at] SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9707D23444224xs11eyahoocom [at] 68.6.19.6...
> "Chuck" <Chuckk2nospam [at] cox.net> wrote in
> news:uSTbf.456$Mi5.439 [at] dukeread07:
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> > There may be a squeak or chirp coming from the bushings in the
> > rear axle assembly when you upshift at high throttle settings..
> > This usually will occur (if it occurs) on super and turbo charged
> > Miatas. Try lubing the bushings with rubber lubricant. Or ignore
> > it as I do.
>
> Dang, doesn't anyone read before replying? <snicker>
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507583 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 12:29 |
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Dana H. Myers wrote:
> It's not the bushing. It's the tires. It was a joke.
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> ;-)
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> Dana
The rear tires? Does that mean that you have not done the FWD conversion
yet?
I talked to a miata owner the other day who did not know if his car was
RWD or FWD. I'm not even sure how I answered, it all gets hazy after
that. I am hoping that he was also joking, but I don't think he was.
It had a hardtop on and he did at least know that it comes off. :-)
Pat
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507597 ] |
Thu, 10 November 2005 08:31 |
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pws wrote:
> Dana H. Myers wrote:
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>> It's not the bushing. It's the tires. It was a joke.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Dana
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> The rear tires? Does that mean that you have not done the FWD conversion
> yet?
Despite urgings from my "street tuner" friends, no.
> I talked to a miata owner the other day who did not know if his car was
> RWD or FWD. I'm not even sure how I answered, it all gets hazy after
> that. I am hoping that he was also joking, but I don't think he was.
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> It had a hardtop on and he did at least know that it comes off. :-)
Ya just gotta be cool. Everyone learns at different rates. Mention how
Miatas are better for drifting, he'll get it someday.
Dana
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| Re: Clutch Chirp [message #507601 ] |
Thu, 10 November 2005 23:48 |
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Dana H. Myers wrote:
> Ya just gotta be cool. Everyone learns at different rates. Mention how
> Miatas are better for drifting, he'll get it someday.
>
> Dana
Yeah, I know that not everyone is as obsessed with the car as I am, but
damnit, just take a look at the trunk. What FWD car has a trunk that small?
Rant mode on:
This guy was young, and unless our driving schools have changed, they
don't even tell you that there is a difference between FWD, RWD & AWD.
They also do not teach weight transfer, counter-steering, or any of the
many other things that would save lives. All I learned in that driver's
education class was the rules of the road, most of which I already knew
from observing others drive.
They did teach a bit about watching out for emergencies, but nothing at
all about what to do once that emergency occured.
Rant mode off:
Pat
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #507602 ] |
Fri, 11 November 2005 00:31 |
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In article <V6Qcf.2631$th3.122 [at] tornado.texas.rr.com>,
pws <pwshelton [at] austin.rr.com> wrote:
Hoho, Pat, you're so funny.
> unless our driving schools have changed, they
> don't even tell you that there is a difference between FWD, RWD & AWD.
Heh. When I took Driver Ed, it was not much of an issue. I mean, no high
school used Citroëns, Tuckers, or Jeeps.
> They also do not teach weight transfer, counter-steering, or any of the
> many other things that would save lives. All I learned in that driver's
> education class was the rules of the road
Weight transfer: slide your fat butt over so I can get in, too.
Counter steering: bench racing on a stool at the soda fountain.
In the early '60s, seatbelts were still catching on in race cars. They
weren't even optional in most passenger cars yet. I bought a set at
Western Auto and installed them in my parents' '59 Ford, after one of my
friends was partly ejected from the car he rolled before the door closed
on his waist and cut him in half. That'll wake you up, yessiree.
It was all most 10th graders could do to stay on the pavement; if you
never crossed the centerline, you got an A. I mght have gotten as much
as an hour total behind the wheel, including the oval behind the gym and
parallel parking. The rest of the time was spent watching bloody movies
like "Signal 30" and "Mechanized Death." Fortunately, my mom had already
taught me to drive properly. I only needed the class to get the
insurance discount.
I recall one girl who lost it while backing up and knocked over the gas
pump. They evacuated the school. She became a hero. She passed the class
anyway.
Somehow, despite the manifold shortcomings of my motoring education, I
still haven't hurt anyone or totalled a car.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #507604 ] |
Fri, 11 November 2005 05:36 |
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In article <_ARcf.2641$th3.893 [at] tornado.texas.rr.com>,
pws <pwshelton [at] austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Same here, never hurt anyone and I blame the deer for the one totaled
> car. Anyone else in the world would have hit it in the same situation,
> except maybe you, Lanny the automotive Superman. ;-)
Hmph. I hit a deer once with my '68 Mustang. Definitely the deer's
fault--it had almost crossed the road, and I had plenty of room to pass
behind it. But then it turned around and doubled back. I'd slowed to
about 20 when it flung itself under my wheels. Didn't damage my car. I'm
always proud to be chosen as an agent of natural selection. :-)
> Do you agree or not agree that more stringent driving instruction, such
> as they have in Germany, would result in less vehicle accidents in the
> United States?
I used to. But now I'm not so sure I want to share the road with
teenagers in bass-thumping Hondas practicing their weight transfers
while talking on cellphones. Not everyone is cut out to be a race
driver. After all, *someone* has to fry all those burgers.
The world is a different place now. In my high school, the only kids
with their own cars were taking 12th grade for the third time. Even they
weren't allowed to park on the school grounds.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516293 ] |
Fri, 11 November 2005 14:48 |
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Lanny Chambers wrote:
> Hmph. I hit a deer once with my '68 Mustang. Definitely the deer's
> fault--it had almost crossed the road, and I had plenty of room to pass
> behind it. But then it turned around and doubled back. I'd slowed to
> about 20 when it flung itself under my wheels. Didn't damage my car. I'm
> always proud to be chosen as an agent of natural selection. :-)
I would certainly rather hit a deer at 20 mph in a 1968 Mustang than at
60 mph in a 1996 Miata.
> I used to. But now I'm not so sure I want to share the road with
> teenagers in bass-thumping Hondas practicing their weight transfers
> while talking on cellphones. Not everyone is cut out to be a race
> driver. After all, *someone* has to fry all those burgers.
I never suggested teaching people to be race car drivers, just the
opposite in fact. Anyone wanting to be a race car driver will learn from
a far better place than driver's education.
What I am talking about is at least having the teacher mention that you
should not slam on the brakes in a corner, how to counter-steer
properly, etc.
I agree that cell phones are a problem and as much as I hate adding new
laws, I think that using them while driving should be banned everywhere
for both teenagers and adults.
> The world is a different place now. In my high school, the only kids
> with their own cars were taking 12th grade for the third time. Even they
> weren't allowed to park on the school grounds.
It certainly is different. I didn't park on school grounds because they
could search your vehicle there at random, and my vehicle at that time
was a 1982 Ford Econoline with custom interior.
Parking down the street seemed wiser to me, and no, I did not go to
Ridgemont High. ;-)
Pat
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516301 ] |
Sat, 12 November 2005 17:58 |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:48:10 GMT, pws <pwshelton [at] austin.rr.com> wrote:
>What I am talking about is at least having the teacher mention that you
>should not slam on the brakes in a corner, how to counter-steer
>properly, etc.
>I agree that cell phones are a problem and as much as I hate adding new
>laws, I think that using them while driving should be banned everywhere
>for both teenagers and adults.
Most schools systems no longer offer driver's ed. They dropped that
when they stopped getting free cars from the manufacturers Besides
the drivers ed budget seen to have been replaced with administrative
staff in most school systems that I'm familiar with.
As for banning cell phones, how would you enforce it in most of the
US? The police will not pull anyone over for something they are doing
because that is profiling (as in racial)
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516308 ] |
Sun, 13 November 2005 02:11 |
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M. Cantera wrote:
> Most schools systems no longer offer driver's ed. They dropped that
> when they stopped getting free cars from the manufacturers Besides
> the drivers ed budget seen to have been replaced with administrative
> staff in most school systems that I'm familiar with.
My school did not offer driver's education. It was taken at a separate
facility that had nothing to do with my school, and it was $180.00,
iirc. This was in Texas in 1985 or 1986.
> As for banning cell phones, how would you enforce it in most of the
> US? The police will not pull anyone over for something they are doing
> because that is profiling (as in racial)
What are you talking about? Do you really think that people do not get
pulled over in the United States? Law enforcement officers usually drive
these cars that have lights on top of the car.
You can frequently see these cars on the side of the road with a car in
front of them that has an unhappy looking driver at the wheel.
Have you ever watched the show "Cops"? People get pulled over here by
police for a huge variety of reasons.
Pat
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516382 ] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 19:45 |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:11:15 GMT, pws <pwshelton [at] austin.rr.com> wrote:
>M. Cantera wrote:
>
>> Most schools systems no longer offer driver's ed. They dropped that
>> when they stopped getting free cars from the manufacturers Besides
>> the drivers ed budget seen to have been replaced with administrative
>> staff in most school systems that I'm familiar with.
>
>My school did not offer driver's education. It was taken at a separate
>facility that had nothing to do with my school, and it was $180.00,
>iirc. This was in Texas in 1985 or 1986.
>
>> As for banning cell phones, how would you enforce it in most of the
>> US? The police will not pull anyone over for something they are doing
>> because that is profiling (as in racial)
>
>What are you talking about? Do you really think that people do not get
>pulled over in the United States? Law enforcement officers usually drive
>these cars that have lights on top of the car.
>You can frequently see these cars on the side of the road with a car in
>front of them that has an unhappy looking driver at the wheel.
>
Traffic enforcement is purely a profit center and radar has the
biggest margin, followed by expired tags/inspections. Any other
offense can result in lengthier proceedings and challenges to the
accussing officer. I know poeple i n the system in Houston and in
Miami, that is what they are telling me.
Next time you are out, take a look at your fellow drivers, they don't
seem to get pulled over for eating, applying make up, obtructing the
flow of traffic, tailgating, reading, failing to signal lane changes,
illegal turns or a host of other offenses.
>Have you ever watched the show "Cops"? People get pulled over here by
>police for a huge variety of reasons.
>
>Pat
Last time I checked that was a TV show, nothing to do with reality.
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516383 ] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 20:10 |
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M. Cantera wrote:
> Traffic enforcement is purely a profit center and radar has the
> biggest margin, followed by expired tags/inspections. Any other
> offense can result in lengthier proceedings and challenges to the
> accussing officer. I know poeple i n the system in Houston and in
> Miami, that is what they are telling me.
I am not disagreeing with this, though *purely* is taking it a little
too far. I want the police to stop the person driving 100 mph in my
neighborhood regardless of profit incentives.
Your previous post said that the police do not pull people over. Here it
is if you have forgotten.
"The police will not pull anyone over for something they are doing
because that is profiling (as in racial)"
I was disputing this as it is an untrue statement. "Something they are
doing" includes speeding and driving with expired tags, by the way.
Now that you are clarifying what you meant, your statement has changed.
> Next time you are out, take a look at your fellow drivers, they don't
> seem to get pulled over for eating, applying make up, obtructing the
> flow of traffic, tailgating, reading, failing to signal lane changes,
> illegal turns or a host of other offenses.
I agree with this to an extent, though I have been pulled over for
failure to signal a lane change. I have also seen a person who appeared
to get pulled over for an illegal turn, though I did not stick around to
ask questions.
> Last time I checked that was a TV show, nothing to do with reality.
So those are not real police officers arresting people?
The show "Cops" features real-life interaction between the police and
the public. It is not "Law and Order". "Cops" is more of a documentary
than anything, and one of the main things that they show are cars
getting pulled over for many reasons other than speeding or expired tags.
Pat
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516385 ] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 20:23 |
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On 2005-11-15, pws <pwshelton [at] austin.rr.com> wrote:
> I was disputing this as it is an untrue statement. "Something
> they are doing" includes speeding and driving with expired
> tags, by the way.
Yup, and I've been pulled over for both.
> Now that you are clarifying what you meant, your statement has
> changed.
After the original statement was demonstrated to be false.
>> Next time you are out, take a look at your fellow drivers,
>> they don't seem to get pulled over for eating, applying make
>> up, obtructing the flow of traffic, tailgating, reading,
>> failing to signal lane changes, illegal turns or a host of
>> other offenses.
>
> I agree with this to an extent, though I have been pulled over
> for failure to signal a lane change.
I've been pulled over for failing to signal a turn (I still say
I did signal). I've also been pulled over for a broken
taillight lens, for accellerating where the speed limit changed
from 25 to 55, and for passing in a no passing zone -- I did
get a (deserved) ticked for that last one.
> I have also seen a person who appeared to get pulled over for
> an illegal turn, though I did not stick around to ask
> questions.
I've also seen people get pulled over for crossing a
double-white line, for illegally using a carpool ramp, and for
running a red light.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I invented skydiving
at in 1989!
visi.com
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516386 ] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 20:42 |
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've been pulled over for failing to signal a turn (I still say
> I did signal). I've also been pulled over for a broken
> taillight lens, for accellerating where the speed limit changed
> from 25 to 55, and for passing in a no passing zone -- I did
> get a (deserved) ticked for that last one.
> I've also seen people get pulled over for crossing a
> double-white line, for illegally using a carpool ramp, and for
> running a red light.
>
I have also been pulled over for burned out taillight bulbs more than
once. My old Z-cars ate them regularly.
When I was in Dallas, I saw many cars pulled over for using the carpool
lane with one person, I had forgotten about that one. They were just
waving them over as fast as they could.
Sorta blows the "police will only pull people over for speeding and
expired tags" theory out of the water, eh?
I have heard that they will sometimes even pull people over for driving
while intoxicated or for stealing cars.
Where are these ideas coming from? ;-)
Pat
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516387 ] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 21:38 |
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Grant Edwards <grante [at] visi.com> wrote in
news:11nkde299udpe59 [at] corp.supernews.com:
> I've also seen people get pulled over for crossing a
> double-white line, for illegally using a carpool ramp, and for
> running a red light.
I was pulled over on my motorcycle for not slowing down "soon enough"
for a construction zone!
I saw the construction and the sign saying "Prepare to stop" so I
slowed and was ready to stop at the stop sign but was waved over by a
highway patrolman just prior to stopping and, after the usual "License,
registration and insurance please" I was told I should have slowed
sooner(?!?!?). Then, the officer asked how I liked my bike and
proceeded to tell me all about his new Kawasaki Nomad! It wasn't hard
to figure he was bored standing in a construction zone miles from any
town and just wanted to talk motorcycles...... we had a nice chat for
about 15 minutes and then he waved me on my way, no more mention was
made about slowing down sooner. <G>
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| Re: Driver Ed [message #516389 ] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 00:36 |
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In article <11nkde299udpe59 [at] corp.supernews.com>,
Grant Edwards <grante [at] visi.com> wrote:
> I've been pulled over for failing to signal a turn (I still say
> I did signal). I've also been pulled over for a broken
> taillight lens, for accellerating where the speed limit changed
> from 25 to 55, and for passing in a no passing zone -- I did
> get a (deserved) ticked for that last one.
Many years ago, I got pulled over once for NOT passing an unmarked cop
car. There was a long line of slow (i.e., 5 mph below the speed limit)
cars ahead, and it was the beginning of a very long passing zone, with
about half a mile visibility and no oncoming traffic. I flipped on my
turn signal,started accelerating, and pulled out to pass...then saw the
Highway Patrol license plate and dropped back behing him. He hit his
lights, and I pulled dutifully onto the shoulder behind him.
I escaped with a warning, but he informed me that he could've cited me
for "failure to complete a pass," "driving on the wrong side of the
road," and some other stuff he probably made up since it wasn't going to
court anyway. I hadn't gotten above the speed limit, and we both knew it.
I think the trooper was just bored with following the same string of
slowpokes, and needed entertainment.
--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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