| ait suspension - road king [message #488036] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 12:46 |
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At the 1000 mile service the dealer fixed (theoretically) leaks in the rear
air suspension.
Before I buy the handy dandy Harley air pump I have been using my
buddies...to the question...
Spending much time and feather the pump handle and trying all the various
ways I can think of, I am unable to show any pressure at all in the lines
when I re-atach the pump. Basically I think I must still have a leak because
the suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher bump or dip in the road
when loaded down for an overnight trip.
I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to use it
effectively?
john
'05 road king
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488038 ] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 18:45 |
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asadi wrote:
> At the 1000 mile service the dealer fixed (theoretically) leaks in the rear
> air suspension.
>
> Before I buy the handy dandy Harley air pump I have been using my
> buddies...to the question...
>
> Spending much time and feather the pump handle and trying all the various
> ways I can think of, I am unable to show any pressure at all in the lines
> when I re-atach the pump. Basically I think I must still have a leak because
> the suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher bump or dip in the road
> when loaded down for an overnight trip.
>
> I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to use it
> effectively?
>
> john
>
> '05 road king
All of them I've owned held air fine. It is very easy to let all of the air
out just by trying to hook the pump up to the valve though. They only hold a
tiny volume of air.
Roger
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488039 ] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 19:06 |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:46:44 GMT, "asadi"
<j-s-baker [at] invalid.sbcglobal.invalid.net> postulated :
>At the 1000 mile service the dealer fixed (theoretically) leaks in the rear
>air suspension.
>
>Before I buy the handy dandy Harley air pump I have been using my
>buddies...to the question...
>
>Spending much time and feather the pump handle and trying all the various
>ways I can think of, I am unable to show any pressure at all in the lines
>when I re-atach the pump. Basically I think I must still have a leak because
>the suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher bump or dip in the road
>when loaded down for an overnight trip.
>
>I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to use it
>effectively?
Progressive makes an air pump / pressure measurement device for about
$40. Very small and works well. The system is a low volume and the
wrong kind of device will release all the pressure quickly. Every bike
I've had since '85 has had a air suspension and they all work well but
do lose pressure with time and use.
Ride Safe!
Greasy Rider© SLOB-6
'97 FLHTCI Lehman trike
Life is best behind bars
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488041 ] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 19:51 |
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"asadi" <j-s-baker [at] invalid.sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote in
message news:oo45f.345$Lv.220 [at] newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
> At the 1000 mile service the dealer fixed (theoretically)
> leaks in the rear air suspension.
>
> Before I buy the handy dandy Harley air pump I have been
> using my buddies...to the question...
>
> Spending much time and feather the pump handle and trying
> all the various ways I can think of, I am unable to show
> any pressure at all in the lines when I re-atach the pump.
> Basically I think I must still have a leak because the
> suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher bump or dip
> in the road when loaded down for an overnight trip.
>
> I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to
> use it effectively?
>
> john
>
> '05 road king
>
maybe your stealer didn't (theoretically) fix your leaks.
I use one of them foot long bicycle pumps. (no gage)
four pumps in the front shocks and one in the rear shocks on
my flhs.
works fine for me.
--
"Key"
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488050 ] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 15:18 |
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"asadi" <j-s-baker [at] invalid.sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote in
news:oo45f.345$Lv.220 [at] newssvr24.news.prodigy.net:
<snip>
Basically I think I must still
> have a leak because the suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher
> bump or dip in the road when loaded down for an overnight trip.
That happened to me before I purchased the pump.
>
> I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to use it
> effectively?
I was quite disappointed with the suspension on my '04 RK. I broke down
and purchased the pump after talking with the service writer at the dealer.
He told me that *every* HD is setup at the factory for a rider who weigh's
165 pounds. Regardless of model. It's a baseline. I'm 225, so I
increased the pressure to 20 pounds and my ride is much better. There is
room for improvement IMHO, but that's for another thread.
My advise, break down and spend the $40 and get the HD pump. I keep mine
in my saddlebag with my tools so I can check the pressure whenever I want.
In the FSM, it tells you how much air pressure to put in for the amount of
weight on the bike.
Regards
Slick_Willy
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488084 ] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 13:25 |
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1. spend the money for the pump
2. on my '05, the installed passenger backrest bracket is thicker than the
stock metal and wouldn't let the pump fitting depress the Schrader valve,
i.e. no pressure reading. Either remove the jam nut on the fitting every
time you attach the pump or very carefully grind 1/32" off the end of the
threaded collar. It's also a good way to ruin your new 40$ pump if you
bugger up the threads.
ss
"asadi" <j-s-baker [at] invalid.sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:oo45f.345$Lv.220 [at] newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
> At the 1000 mile service the dealer fixed (theoretically) leaks in the
rear
> air suspension.
>
> Before I buy the handy dandy Harley air pump I have been using my
> buddies...to the question...
>
> Spending much time and feather the pump handle and trying all the various
> ways I can think of, I am unable to show any pressure at all in the lines
> when I re-atach the pump. Basically I think I must still have a leak
because
> the suspension seems to 'bottom out' on a rougher bump or dip in the road
> when loaded down for an overnight trip.
>
> I s this suspension a gimmick or will I really be able to use it
> effectively?
>
> john
>
> '05 road king
>
>
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488101 ] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 00:12 |
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--
Keep the wind in your face
Billyboy 00 FLHRI
Road King Rules
"slim shady" <sshady [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43577c40_3 [at] newspeer2.tds.net...
> 1. spend the money for the pump
> 2. on my '05, the installed passenger backrest bracket is thicker than the
> stock metal and wouldn't let the pump fitting depress the Schrader valve,
> i.e. no pressure reading. Either remove the jam nut on the fitting every
> time you attach the pump or very carefully grind 1/32" off the end of the
> threaded collar. It's also a good way to ruin your new 40$ pump if you
> bugger up the threads.
after i ground mine i used a drill bit to clean the burrs off of the theards
works fine now
Keep the wind in your face
Billyboy 00 FLHRI
Road King Rules
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488105 ] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 12:38 |
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My thanks to all. KK in dayton is listed as a progressive dealer so I'll
compaare their pump and Harley's before I make a purchase...
john
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488106 ] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 12:48 |
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"Billyboy" <wevans [at] rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fDU5f.74440$Xl2.67774 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
> --
> Keep the wind in your face
> Billyboy 00 FLHRI
> Road King Rules
> "slim shady" <sshady [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:43577c40_3 [at] newspeer2.tds.net...
> > 1. spend the money for the pump
> > 2. on my '05, the installed passenger backrest bracket is thicker than
the
> > stock metal and wouldn't let the pump fitting depress the Schrader
valve,
> > i.e. no pressure reading. Either remove the jam nut on the fitting every
> > time you attach the pump or very carefully grind 1/32" off the end of
the
> > threaded collar. It's also a good way to ruin your new 40$ pump if you
> > bugger up the threads.
>
> after i ground mine i used a drill bit to clean the burrs off of the
theards
> works fine now
>
> Keep the wind in your face
> Billyboy 00 FLHRI
> Road King Rules
>
>
Anybody ever relocate the air fitting so the saddlebag doesn't have to be
removed to adjust the air pressure?
ss
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| Re: ait suspension - road king [message #488130 ] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 03:38 |
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"slim shady" <sshady [at] yahoo.com> wrote
> Anybody ever relocate the air fitting so the saddlebag doesn't have to be
> removed to adjust the air pressure?
You don't need to remove the saddlebag to adjust the air pressure.
Just open the lid. The bag is shaped so it's lower where the air fittings
are. I keep my pump in the right side bag so the lid is already open when I
check pressure. No extra work needed.
Preacher - AH #89
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