| Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485239] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 03:20 |
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New or serviced parts need adequate initial lubrication when the engine or
power train is first started.
The general rule is if it moves, lubricate it. Most mechanics simply use
engine oil on parts as they are assembled. This provides an antifriction
film until the driven pressure/splash oiling system circulates oil from the
sump(s).
My theory is passageways are void after a rebuild and it will take a
considerable time for oil to circulate to normal flows. New and rebuilt
parts are rough and generate considerable friction until they are well
broken in. Thes parts need extra lubrication for their protection. I
suggest instead of engine oil, grease be substituted.
Grease is simply oil suspended in various soaps to keep the oil in place.
That is the objective, to keep oil in place until the oil pump can come up
to speed. I recommend "pure white" grease sold in any auto parts supply
and labeled as such. Liberally coat every part: valve stems, main and rod
bearings, wrist pin, rings and piston grooves, gears, and essentially every
part which has relative movement with respect to the other.
The grease is rapidly absorbed by the oil (engine or gearbox) after it has
done its job. Avoid moly grease and other non-pure greases as some
contamination of the regular oil is inevitable when those exotics are
employed.
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485241 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 04:32 |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Avoid moly grease and other non-pure greases as some
> contamination of the regular oil is inevitable when those exotics are
> employed.
Nomen Nutcase apparently has never heard of molybdenum disulfide
"assembly lube".
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485244 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 05:16 |
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Nomen Nescio <nobody [at] dizum.com> wrote in
news:48e0bdae5521bb3103faf3609f8c1688 [at] dizum.com:
> New or serviced parts need adequate initial lubrication when the engine
> or power train is first started.
>
> The general rule is if it moves, lubricate it. Most mechanics simply
> use engine oil on parts as they are assembled. This provides an
> antifriction film until the driven pressure/splash oiling system
> circulates oil from the sump(s).
>
> My theory is passageways are void after a rebuild and it will take a
> considerable time for oil to circulate to normal flows. New and rebuilt
> parts are rough and generate considerable friction until they are well
> broken in. Thes parts need extra lubrication for their protection. I
> suggest instead of engine oil, grease be substituted.
>
> Grease is simply oil suspended in various soaps to keep the oil in
> place. That is the objective, to keep oil in place until the oil pump
> can come up to speed. I recommend "pure white" grease sold in any auto
> parts supply and labeled as such. Liberally coat every part: valve
> stems, main and rod bearings, wrist pin, rings and piston grooves,
> gears, and essentially every part which has relative movement with
> respect to the other.
>
> The grease is rapidly absorbed by the oil (engine or gearbox) after it
> has done its job. Avoid moly grease and other non-pure greases as some
> contamination of the regular oil is inevitable when those exotics are
> employed.
>
More nonsense from Mr. Ignorance. His theory is wrong and it can be
easily proven that it is wrong.
pierce
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485246 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 05:59 |
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krusty kritter wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>Avoid moly grease and other non-pure greases as some
>>contamination of the regular oil is inevitable when those exotics are
>>employed.
>
> Nomen Nutcase apparently has never heard of molybdenum disulfide
> "assembly lube".
Snort! Yeah, that was my thought too when I read that nonsense. "Why
doesn't this moron just coat his parts with assembly lube?" Uhm, it's in
the auto parts store, ask at the counter. It's what the shop manual
recommends using when you assemble the engine. Doh.
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485248 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 06:22 |
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E.L. Green wrote:
> krusty kritter wrote:
> > Nomen Nutcase apparently has never heard of molybdenum disulfide
> > "assembly lube".
>
> Snort! Yeah, that was my thought too when I read that nonsense. "Why
> doesn't this moron just coat his parts with assembly lube?" Uhm, it's in
> the auto parts store, ask at the counter. It's what the shop manual
> recommends using when you assemble the engine. Doh.
I remember taking a two-stroke crankshaft to a motorcycle shop to have
a new rod bearing installed in the 1960's. When I got the crank back
the mechanic had used white lithium grease on the rod bearing.
Maybe the mechanic was Nomen Nescio?
I don't know when assembly lube became available, but somebody
mentioned it to me in the 1980's when I first started degreeing my own
camshafts. I still have the same jar of Bel Ray assembly lube. It just
doesn't take very much of that stuff.
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485249 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 06:55 |
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"krusty kritter" <kriyamanna [at] aol.com> wrote in news:1129522932.782927.127490
[at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> E.L. Green wrote:
>> krusty kritter wrote:
>
>> > Nomen Nutcase apparently has never heard of molybdenum disulfide
>> > "assembly lube".
>>
>> Snort! Yeah, that was my thought too when I read that nonsense. "Why
>> doesn't this moron just coat his parts with assembly lube?" Uhm, it's in
>> the auto parts store, ask at the counter. It's what the shop manual
>> recommends using when you assemble the engine. Doh.
>
> I remember taking a two-stroke crankshaft to a motorcycle shop to have
> a new rod bearing installed in the 1960's. When I got the crank back
> the mechanic had used white lithium grease on the rod bearing.
>
> Maybe the mechanic was Nomen Nescio?
>
No way. I know of no motocycle shop that would have an idiot like that
working for them.
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #485250 ] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 07:13 |
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R. Pierce Butler wrote:
> "krusty kritter" <kriyamanna [at] aol.com> wrote in news:1129522932.782927.127490
> [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>>I remember taking a two-stroke crankshaft to a motorcycle shop to have
>>a new rod bearing installed in the 1960's. When I got the crank back
>>the mechanic had used white lithium grease on the rod bearing.
>>
>>Maybe the mechanic was Nomen Nescio?
>>
>
> No way. I know of no motocycle shop that would have an idiot like that
> working for them.
I do. This shop even dealt with a flooded charcoal canister (California
emissions) by stuffing grease up its overflow hole to keep the gas from
coming out. Of course, once the fuel tank vent was largely clogged up
that way, the motorcycle ran like crud. Maybe this was Nomen's shop?
-Elron
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| Re: Proper Assembly Lubrication [message #498675 ] |
Thu, 03 November 2005 21:40 |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
Sorry. I don't speak retardese. Can you get someone to translate into
meaningful English before you post, please? Just as the strength of a solitary
brick will not save a poorly built structure, your bold typeface does not
redeem your craven incoherent words.
Clearly, you have lost your fingertip grip on reality and have descended into
an abyss of irreversible lunacy. If ignorance were a disability, you'd get the
full pension. Oh well, at least you only charge what your free advice is worth.
You bring to mind a quote from Josh Billing: "Doesn't know much, but leads the
league in nostril hair."
You have that certain nothing. Truly, you are about as interesting as watching
a slug move slowly across a large rock. If I had wanted to talk to somebody
with your personality, I would be at the damn pet store talking to the lizards.
Maybe you wouldn't come across as such a jellyfish-sucking mental midget if you
weren't so dense that light bends around you; if your weren't so fat that a
"Place Your Billboard Ad Here" is printed on each of your butt cheeks, or if
you didn't have a face like a bulldog chewing a stinging nettle while taking a
constipated dump in a heat wave. No, come to think of it, you would.
In conclusion, why don't you go away and play Russian roulette with all
chambers fully-loaded?
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