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Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359984] Do, 04 August 2005 23:46
HG  
I want to adjust the sensor air gap in my Volvo-Penta I/O. The Clymer's
manual says use a non-metallic feeler gauge (note: non-metallic, not
non-magnetic). I've checked all around and cannot find one. A google
search of non-metallic feeler gauge bring up references to it's use for some
autos, but no sources. Snap-Ons online catalog does not list one.

Any idea where to find one? Thanks.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359991 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:58
Dugdug56  
"HG" <t296******** [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:sLSdnTWGVpFeEW_fRVn-1g [at] comcast.com...
> I want to adjust the sensor air gap in my Volvo-Penta I/O. The
Clymer's
> manual says use a non-metallic feeler gauge (note: non-metallic, not
> non-magnetic). I've checked all around and cannot find one. A google
> search of non-metallic feeler gauge bring up references to it's use
for some
> autos, but no sources. Snap-Ons online catalog does not list one.
>
> Any idea where to find one? Thanks.
>
>
>
Depending on how thick you need you can go to a hobby shop and buy sheet
and strips of plastic used to make models. Just buy the correct
thickness.

--
Steve W.



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Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359994 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 01:37
Shep  
This is a common tool for setting the reluctor gap on the older Chry.
electronic ignition distrubutors, might try to find one thru some Mopar
performance website, I have one, do you live near Albany, NY?
"HG" <t296******** [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:sLSdnTWGVpFeEW_fRVn-1g [at] comcast.com...
>I want to adjust the sensor air gap in my Volvo-Penta I/O. The Clymer's
> manual says use a non-metallic feeler gauge (note: non-metallic, not
> non-magnetic). I've checked all around and cannot find one. A google
> search of non-metallic feeler gauge bring up references to it's use for
> some
> autos, but no sources. Snap-Ons online catalog does not list one.
>
> Any idea where to find one? Thanks.
>
>
>



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Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359996 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 01:59
dastern  
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, HG wrote:

> I want to adjust the sensor air gap in my Volvo-Penta I/O. The Clymer's
> manual says use a non-metallic feeler gauge (note: non-metallic, not
> non-magnetic). I've checked all around and cannot find one. A google
> search of non-metallic feeler gauge bring up references to it's use for
> some autos, but no sources. Snap-Ons online catalog does not list one.

It's not a non-metallic feeler gauge you need, it's a non-MAGNETIC feeler
gauge (i.e., brass). A set of brass feeler gauges is put out as a
common service tool for exactly the task you're trying to accomplish, see
e.g.:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=75294 98484
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45602 46184

DS
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359997 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 02:29
dbohara  
Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #359998 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 02:30
dbohara  
You can also buy plastic shim stock from places lile McMaster-Carr in
specific thickness.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362416 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 15:05
aux3.DOH.4  
dbohara [at] mindspring.com wrote:
>
> Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
> to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
> plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
> calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
> cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.

Harbor Freight has a set of 6" digital calipers for about $16 that are
quite good. Actually far better than you would expect for made in China.
They work well and the fit and finish is quite good as well, even the
"made in China" is laser etched in the stainless instead of a sticker. I
picked up two of them a few months back and I'll probably pickup one of
the $35 12" version the next time I'm at the HF store.

Pete C.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362499 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 20:33
Misifus  
Pete C. wrote:

> dbohara [at] mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
>>to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
>>plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
>>calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
>>cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.
>
>
> Harbor Freight has a set of 6" digital calipers for about $16 that are
> quite good. Actually far better than you would expect for made in China.
> They work well and the fit and finish is quite good as well, even the
> "made in China" is laser etched in the stainless instead of a sticker. I
> picked up two of them a few months back and I'll probably pickup one of
> the $35 12" version the next time I'm at the HF store.
>
> Pete C.


Me, too. Mine work very well. These are a real steal at $16.
When I saw them I immediately picked up a set, and so did my buddy.

-Raf

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Rafael Seibert
mailto:raf_seibert [at] cox.net
http://www.ralphandsue.com
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362506 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 21:49
aux3.DOH.4  
Misifus wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > dbohara [at] mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> >>Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
> >>to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
> >>plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
> >>calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
> >>cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.
> >
> >
> > Harbor Freight has a set of 6" digital calipers for about $16 that are
> > quite good. Actually far better than you would expect for made in China.
> > They work well and the fit and finish is quite good as well, even the
> > "made in China" is laser etched in the stainless instead of a sticker. I
> > picked up two of them a few months back and I'll probably pickup one of
> > the $35 12" version the next time I'm at the HF store.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> Me, too. Mine work very well. These are a real steal at $16.
> When I saw them I immediately picked up a set, and so did my buddy.
>
> -Raf
>

I picked up the 12" version yesterday and they are just as nice as the
6" version and also a steal at $35. Also got the $50 IR thermometer that
they had on sale, it works nicely as well.

Pete C.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362542 ] So, 07 August 2005 06:29
Misifus  
Pete C. wrote:

> Misifus wrote:
>
>>Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dbohara [at] mindspring.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
>>>>to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
>>>>plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
>>>>calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
>>>>cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>Harbor Freight has a set of 6" digital calipers for about $16 that are
>>>quite good. Actually far better than you would expect for made in China.
>>>They work well and the fit and finish is quite good as well, even the
>>>"made in China" is laser etched in the stainless instead of a sticker. I
>>>picked up two of them a few months back and I'll probably pickup one of
>>>the $35 12" version the next time I'm at the HF store.
>>>
>>>Pete C.
>>
>>Me, too. Mine work very well. These are a real steal at $16.
>>When I saw them I immediately picked up a set, and so did my buddy.
>>
>> -Raf
>>
>
>
> I picked up the 12" version yesterday and they are just as nice as the
> 6" version and also a steal at $35. Also got the $50 IR thermometer that
> they had on sale, it works nicely as well.
>
> Pete C.


That one, the thermometer, really tempted me as well. We were
trying to calibrate a car temperature guage yesterday, and I kept
thinking how handy that would have been.

-Raf

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Rafael Seibert
mailto:raf_seibert [at] cox.net
http://www.ralphandsue.com
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362548 ] So, 07 August 2005 11:41
Nate Nagel  
Misifus wrote:
> Pete C. wrote:
>
>> Misifus wrote:
>>
>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> dbohara [at] mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Buy a micrometer, or better, an electronic set of calipers. Use them
>>>>> to measure the thickness of various thickness of plastic and use the
>>>>> plastic. You would be amazed at all the things you will use the
>>>>> calipers for. They cost about $95 for the electronic ones but the
>>>>> cheaper dial type are far less. I would feel crippled without mine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Harbor Freight has a set of 6" digital calipers for about $16 that are
>>>> quite good. Actually far better than you would expect for made in
>>>> China.
>>>> They work well and the fit and finish is quite good as well, even the
>>>> "made in China" is laser etched in the stainless instead of a
>>>> sticker. I
>>>> picked up two of them a few months back and I'll probably pickup one of
>>>> the $35 12" version the next time I'm at the HF store.
>>>>
>>>> Pete C.
>>>
>>>
>>> Me, too. Mine work very well. These are a real steal at $16.
>>> When I saw them I immediately picked up a set, and so did my buddy.
>>>
>>> -Raf
>>>
>>
>>
>> I picked up the 12" version yesterday and they are just as nice as the
>> 6" version and also a steal at $35. Also got the $50 IR thermometer that
>> they had on sale, it works nicely as well.
>>
>> Pete C.
>
>
>
> That one, the thermometer, really tempted me as well. We were trying to
> calibrate a car temperature guage yesterday, and I kept thinking how
> handy that would have been.
>
> -Raf
>

I bought one of the Actron ones on eBay for about $40 with shipping,
I've already used it - a friend bought an old car with a questionable
radiator, and since it was a Studebaker Hawk we didn't know whether to
trust the temp gauge or not (they're bad as often as not, and tend to
read high, so unfortunately the habit is to ignore them until you see
steam) Turns out this car *was* running hot, about 200-210 degrees, so
we flushed the block, installed a different rad, and all was good.

nate

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Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362558 ] So, 07 August 2005 17:29
dbohara  
My employees picked up a set of 6 micrometers (1"-6") on ebay for $100
total. Yes, they are Chinese but still useful.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362559 ] So, 07 August 2005 17:31
dbohara  
My employees picked up a set of 6 micrometers (1"-6") on ebay for $100
total. Yes, they are Chinese but still useful.

My IR thermometer from Radio Shack (about $39) is also very useful. It
is great for seeing how well AC ducts work, the temp of various rooms,
measuring the temp of water just by pointing it etc.
Re: Non-Metallic Feeler Gauge [message #362594 ] Mo, 08 August 2005 03:11
Jim Goodall  
I suspect that what you need is a non-magnetic feeler guage. I used to
use a brass set to set ignition air gap in old Chrysler cars of the 70s
and 80s. The sensor is a coil built around an iron core which will
become magnetised and drag a steel guage.
I'd bet money that Clymers is wrong here.
Jim G

HG wrote:

>I want to adjust the sensor air gap in my Volvo-Penta I/O. The Clymer's
>manual says use a non-metallic feeler gauge (note: non-metallic, not
>non-magnetic). I've checked all around and cannot find one. A google
>search of non-metallic feeler gauge bring up references to it's use for some
>autos, but no sources. Snap-Ons online catalog does not list one.
>
>Any idea where to find one? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
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