| bandit 1200 for touring [message #501798] |
Mi, 02 November 2005 23:31 |
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thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a good
choice
snowey
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501811 ] |
Mi, 02 November 2005 23:57 |
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shane angell wrote:
> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a
> good choice
> snowey
I think touring on a naked bike is hard work. The Bandit's nose fairing
doesn't look up to the job.
Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you reconsider.
--
The Judge.
Transalp - slow but fun. BMW K1200RS - sack of shit. For sale
Gone: ZZR1200 VL1500LC, ZZR1100, GS1000G, GSX250
Windows - who's controlling your PC?
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501819 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 00:05 |
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"shane angell" <snowey [at] angell30.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkbeoo$5me$1 [at] news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a
> good choice
No, it is a terrible choice, try touring Africa instead.
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501825 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 00:18 |
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Judge wrote:
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> shane angell wrote:
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> > thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a
> > good choice
> > snowey
> I think touring on a naked bike is hard work. The Bandit's nose fairing
> doesn't look up to the job.
One of the reasons I sold my b12 in favour of a faired bike was that I
didn't want to try long distance rides without wind protection.
Of course, then I bought a bike with a ridiculous riding position and a
seat like a plank, so I'm not all that smart really.
--
ogden, zx7r, taller than i look
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501876 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 08:54 |
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Shane Angel said:
>thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for
>touring europe. is that a good choice
Yes, especially if the title of your tour journal is "My tour of European
Petrol Stations".
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Dnc
B12. ZZR11. VS8. 940.
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501884 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 09:40 |
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"doetnietcomputeren" wrote in message
: Shane Angel said:
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: >thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for
: >touring europe. is that a good choice
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: Yes, especially if the title of your tour journal is "My tour of European
: Petrol Stations
I must have a different bandit then.............the S model with the half
fairing is good with a double bubble screen.
Also on the recent > 400 mile round trip to the NEC I filled up twice and
both were at 46 mpg at a steady cruise of 90 mph. This was with a full set
of hard panniers.
Mark
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501886 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 09:48 |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
<ogden [at] pre.org> typed
> I'm not all that smart really.
Meanwhile, in other news...
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
public toilet with the lid closed.
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SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501968 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 12:46 |
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Mark said:
>I must have a different bandit then
well unless you've nicked mine, that would seem logical.
>.............the S model with the half
>fairing is good with a double bubble screen.
note, I never argued that Bandit's weren't good, but remember "good" is a
relative term.
>Also on the recent > 400 mile round trip to the
>NEC I filled up twice and
>both were at 46 mpg at a steady cruise of 90 mph.
Well if you will ride like a girl...
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Dnc
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #501993 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 13:28 |
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"Judge" <judge-11 [at] nospam-old-bailey.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dwbaf.11229$ul3.10160 [at] fe38.usenetserver.com...
> shane angell wrote:
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>> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a
>> good choice
>> snowey
> I think touring on a naked bike is hard work. The Bandit's nose fairing
> doesn't look up to the job.
I had the same issue with my Zed thou. The original mini screen was marginal
(at best) in the wind deflecting stakes, so I bought a Vario screen with an
extra adjustable "blade". It transformed the ridinh out of all proprtion to
its size and I wouldn't think twice about touring on it now.
>
> Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you
> reconsider.
Or look for a good after market screen and fuck anyone who calls you
"Geezer". (although not in the biblical sense, that wouldn't be cool)
--
Beav
Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious
changes)
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502036 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 14:16 |
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DnC:
>Well if you will ride like a girl...
Enjoying the speeding opportunuities in Gatsoland, then? ;-)
--
FrJack [at] work
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502054 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 14:54 |
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"Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun [at] wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
news:nzGy88gy7caDJApb [at] rcav8r.demon.co.uk...
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
> <ogden [at] pre.org> typed
>> I'm not all that smart really.
>
> Meanwhile, in other news...
Quite, Shane would find that £50 of touring screen gives excellent
upper body protection from wind and elements.
'Hog
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502060 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 15:15 |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:57:47 +0000, Judge
<judge-11 [at] nospam-old-bailey.org.uk> wrote:
>shane angell wrote:
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>> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a
>> good choice?
Depends. Depends on how fast you want to ride, how tall you are and
vitally, whether you are considering a naked(N) Bandit or the
"faired"(S) variety.
>I think touring on a naked bike is hard work.
That it is.
>The Bandit's nose fairing doesn't look up to the job.
That's where you're wrong. My old B12S was comfy enough at 130ish mph
- not as good as a properly fully faired bike, but the windblast was
deflected away from the head and hands sufficiently.
>
>Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you reconsider.
Now you're fantasising. 100ish is fine on my current B12N, with no
screen at all and the highest, widest bars that Renthal do.
Occasional blips to 120 are feasible, although high-speed touring
isn't feasible in any sort of comfort.
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Pip: B12
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502064 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 15:23 |
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Pip wrote:
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> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:57:47 +0000, Judge
> <judge-11 [at] nospam-old-bailey.org.uk> wrote:
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> >Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you reconsider.
>
> Now you're fantasising. 100ish is fine on my current B12N, with no
> screen at all and the highest, widest bars that Renthal do.
> Occasional blips to 120 are feasible, although high-speed touring
> isn't feasible in any sort of comfort.
Occasional blips to 150 are feasible on a B12N. Very occasional. Or less
often if you have any sympathy for your neck muscles.
--
ogden, zx7r, taller than i look
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502065 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 15:24 |
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shane angell wrote:
> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is that a good
> choice
Great for the job.
Low revving, loads of torque, reliable and hard luggage available.
WRT fairing: I don't miss the fairing on mine but then my last bike
(Divvy 600) had a fairing that offered little protection. On longish
motorway runs I tend to cruise at an indicated 85mph at at those kind
of speeds you can manage fine without the fairing. Lets face it when
touring you're only likely to be on the motorway for the first and last
day so if you must cruise at well over 85 you can just suffer for two
days.
I know people that claim 140 miles to reserve on them.
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502074 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 15:39 |
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<danny_deever2000 [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1131027856.322449.96650 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> shane angell wrote:
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>> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is
>> that a good
>> choice
>
> Great for the job.
>
> Low revving, loads of torque, reliable and hard luggage available.
>
> WRT fairing: I don't miss the fairing on mine but then my last bike
> (Divvy 600) had a fairing that offered little protection. On longish
> motorway runs I tend to cruise at an indicated 85mph at at those
> kind
> of speeds you can manage fine without the fairing. Lets face it when
> touring you're only likely to be on the motorway for the first and
> last
> day so if you must cruise at well over 85 you can just suffer for
> two
> days.
>
>
> I know people that claim 140 miles to reserve on them.
With a tuned engine I'm getting 140+ to reserve every time with normal
cruising 80-100mph. The vibes are another issue mind.
'Hog
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502081 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 15:48 |
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'Hog wrote:
> <danny_deever2000 [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1131027856.322449.96650 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > shane angell wrote:
> >
> >> thinking about upgrading to a bandit 1200 for touring europe. is
> >> that a good
> >> choice
> >
> > Great for the job.
> >
> > Low revving, loads of torque, reliable and hard luggage available.
> >
> > WRT fairing: I don't miss the fairing on mine but then my last bike
> > (Divvy 600) had a fairing that offered little protection. On longish
> > motorway runs I tend to cruise at an indicated 85mph at at those
> > kind
> > of speeds you can manage fine without the fairing. Lets face it when
> > touring you're only likely to be on the motorway for the first and
> > last
> > day so if you must cruise at well over 85 you can just suffer for
> > two
> > days.
> >
> >
> > I know people that claim 140 miles to reserve on them.
>
> With a tuned engine I'm getting 140+ to reserve every time with normal
> cruising 80-100mph. The vibes are another issue mind.
Exactly. 95 per cent of my riding is touring - about 60pc of it abroad.
(About 6.5k a year). A naked B12 has given me no problems at all.
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502083 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 16:02 |
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Pip wrote:
> >Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you reconsider.
>
> Now you're fantasising. 100ish is fine on my current B12N,
Mine, too. Everyone tells me I can't tour on my B12N. - It doesn't stop
me doing it though!
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502099 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 16:26 |
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Pip:
>That's where you're wrong. My old B12S was comfy enough at 130ish mph
>- not as good as a properly fully faired bike, but the windblast was
>deflected away from the head and hands sufficiently.
And there are replacement screens of many shapes available, too.
That's why a B12S is on my list to replace the Tigger (2years old, less
than 5k for +/- =A33.7K on autotrader)
>highest, widest bars that Renthal do.
Jimmy Button high bend? They would be my choice for a swap.
--=20
FrJack [at] work
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502121 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 17:21 |
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On 3 Nov 2005 07:26:31 -0800, "frjack at work" <frjack [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
>Pip:
>>highest, widest bars that Renthal do.
>
>Jimmy Button high bend? They would be my choice for a swap.
Whatever the fuck they are - nothing to lead me to the manufacturer on
google.
But no, I wouldn't - the bars were the choice of the previous owner
and they're too high - once I get some speed on, the blast in the
chest pushes my arse back on the seat, leading to ... roll on hardish
coming out of a corner, acceleration pushes rider backwards; rider
pulls on bars to restore position, opening throttle fully, windblast
pushes rider back again, rider performs 'pullup' against bars - front
wheel rises skywards ...
When pushing on there seems to be little alternative to the above
scenario. Arms and shoulders hurt more than neck. I'll be fitting
lower bars, mebbe even standard bars.
Not only that, but at motorway speeds rolling on and the consequent
pull on the bars causes the bars to bend back towards me quite
noticeably. Perhaps the MX-style brace across the top of the bars
would help, but it is a damn uncomfotable thought, going through
possible scenarios of the immediate aftermath of a bar snapping at
~100mph in lane 3 of a busy motorway ...
Too high and too wide is not the way to go. Apart from anything else,
it makes the leverage so great that the slightest movement turns the
front wheel. Further to that, it makes me feel that the bike is very
small, light and flickable and causes me to forget that there's
~120bhp going through the rear tyre.
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Pip: B12
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502131 ] |
Do, 03 November 2005 17:38 |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
<NOSPAMgingerbloke [at] OMITTHISgmail.com> typed
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>But no, I wouldn't - the bars were the choice of the previous owner
>and they're too high - once I get some speed on, the blast in the
>chest pushes my arse back on the seat, leading to ... roll on hardish
>coming out of a corner, acceleration pushes rider backwards; rider
>pulls on bars to restore position, opening throttle fully, windblast
>pushes rider back again, rider performs 'pullup' against bars - front
>wheel rises skywards ...
>
Pathetic Excuses For Hooligan Behaviour #5,673 in a growing list.
"It's the bars wot made me do it, guv".
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
public toilet with the lid closed.
WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #502450 ] |
Fr, 04 November 2005 00:56 |
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Pip wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:57:47 +0000, Judge
> <judge-11 [at] nospam-old-bailey.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you
>>reconsider.
>
> Now you're fantasising. 100ish is fine on my current B12N, with no
> screen at all and the highest, widest bars that Renthal do.
> Occasional blips to 120 are feasible, although high-speed touring
> isn't feasible in any sort of comfort.
>
This may have something to do with our relative sizes.
--
The Judge.
Transalp - slow but fun. BMW K1200RS - sack of shit. For sale
Gone: ZZR1200 VL1500LC, ZZR1100, GS1000G, GSX250
Windows - who's controlling your PC?
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #504544 ] |
Fr, 04 November 2005 11:38 |
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Pip said:
>Further to that, it makes me feel that the bike is
>very small, light and flickable and causes me to
>forget that there's ~120bhp going through the rear
>tyre.
You can imagine the amusement I have every time I get on the Blingdit
after having ridden the ZZR11 lots.
"Wow,I forgot how easy this is...."
Followed closely by
"Woooooah!"
--
Dnc
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #504623 ] |
Fr, 04 November 2005 13:04 |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:38:51 -0500, "doetnietcomputeren"
<doesnotcomputeDELETE [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>Pip said:
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>>Further to that, it makes me feel that the bike is
>>very small, light and flickable and causes me to
>>forget that there's ~120bhp going through the rear
>>tyre.
>
>You can imagine the amusement I have every time I get on the Blingdit
>after having ridden the ZZR11 lots.
Did you find out why it was cutting out?
--
Work in progress
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #504630 ] |
Fr, 04 November 2005 13:12 |
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"doetnietcomputeren" <doesnotcomputeDELETE [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9dac3afe8230546fe56dc5fadfa1e995 [at] localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com...
> Pip said:
>
>>Further to that, it makes me feel that the bike is
>>very small, light and flickable and causes me to
>>forget that there's ~120bhp going through the rear
>>tyre.
>
> You can imagine the amusement I have every time I get on the
> Blingdit
> after having ridden the ZZR11 lots.
>
> "Wow,I forgot how easy this is...."
> Followed closely by
> "Woooooah!"
Faggot. When are you getting the engine over to Holeshot. YKIMS
'Hog
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| Re: bandit 1200 for touring [message #510784 ] |
Mi, 09 November 2005 16:10 |
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Judge wrote:
>Unless you're planning to stick to under 80mph, I'd suggest you reconsider.
Bah - it's fine. I rode mine to Cornwall on two separate occasions,
cruising at 120mph, blipping to 150mph, and never dipping below
100mph. Doddle.
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Ben Blaney
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