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Motorcycles » uk.rec.motorcycles » OT: Car suggestions
| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788420 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 22:30 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:28:15 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
<snip>
>I an understand that perfectly - though it doesn't really tie in with
>your earlier contribution of "A car is a car is a car."
It would if you'd seen the new BMW advert recently.
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Daz
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788423 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 23:07 |
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Ben wrote:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
Fuglipla, unquestionably.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788425 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 23:09 |
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Ben spoke:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
Sounds daft, but a Rover 75 or MG-ZT - you can pick one up brand new for
around 10k, there was a 2.5l MG-ZT estate in a local garage for 5k
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788429 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 23:36 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:v66vb2lke9tv5v0ui078q6sv5otm3rfjb6 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:48:19 +0100, "DanTXD" <me [at] privacy.net> wrote:
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>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>news:et4vb2h93dul8r2l9t4u47oq1048qmojjl [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:27:09 +0100, ginge
>>> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
>>>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>>>
>>>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>>>> - air con
>>>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>>>> - diesel
>>>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>>
>>>>I hate to say it, but a mondeo.
>>>
>>> As Dan has just suggested.
>>>
>>>>7K should get you in a newish one, with all you ask and cruise control
>>>>too, plus they're well built these days.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I was quite impressed with my mate's company car he had a couple
>>> of years back. Apart from the very odd bite point on the clutch made
>>> it easy to stall.
>>>
>>> I'm too young to own a Mondeo though.
>>
>>406 2.2 HDi Estate? 406s were without a doubt the most well made Pug ,
>>well, ever really. Also cavernous, handle well, the 2.2 HDi is a great
>>engine, and chips to 160bhp if that takes your fancy...
>
> The point behind the diesel is to cut down on running costs because my
> company mileage rate is pretty poor. I imagine running a 2.2 litre
> car, even a diesel, might not be the most cost effective.
>
> This was why I was originally looking at the 1.8 diesel types.
Ah, they do a 1.9 HDi as well, but make sure you get the intercooled 110bhp
version, not the 90bhp version, as it's more efficient, and more economical.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788465 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 01:28 |
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Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>
> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
> - air con
> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> hatch rather than a saloon
> - diesel
> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> - comfortable on motorways
>
> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
I don't know much about cars, but a Honda Jazz has at least as much room
inside as a Focus, and is the same size outside as a Fiesta, is dead
comfy, fast enough for a car, and cost 7K for a 3 year / 12k miles old
example.
Dunno if they do a diesel, but A's 1.4 petrol does 50mpg.
Obviously I haven't driven it, but it was _blatantly_ a nicer car then
the focus's she test drove in the same price range.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788478 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 06:57 |
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Rope wrote:
> Ben spoke:
> > I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines
> > of:
> >
> > - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3
> > years - air con
> > - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
> > hatch rather than a saloon
> > - diesel
> > - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
> > - comfortable on motorways
> >
> > I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old
> > Focus 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
> Sounds daft, but a Rover 75 or MG-ZT - you can pick one up brand new
> for around 10k, there was a 2.5l MG-ZT estate in a local garage for 5k
There's a reason for that, and it isn't that they're cheap
made-in-China knock-offs.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788482 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 08:25 |
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<deadmail [at] burnt.org.uk> wrote:
> "dwb" <parc_erom [at] crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
> <1153424541.384025.224550 [at] i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >SteveH wrote:
> >
> >> What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
> >> 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
> >> on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
> >> pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
> >
> >And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
> >mega miles on them are like new.
> >
> >You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
> >want to raise their hand while we're here?
>
> If the car's carefully chosen and the use is long distances *plus* the
> suspension 'bits' are looked after with maintenance kept on top of, then
> yes. Well, partially, it'll be scarred with stone chips and the drivers
> seat might be fucked up.
I'd go with that. Add one or two interestin g wear patterns to the
carpets on the driver's side and a shiny steering wheel.
My old Saab 9000 was sold with about 120-130k on it and the interior
rattled less than any number of Vauxhalls and (especially) French cars
I've had.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788483 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 08:25 |
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Simon Gates <Simon [at] invalid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> a Honda Jazz
Woman at work, a music freak, has one of these, in gleaming black. It
looks good. She calls it Satchmo, which made me smile the first time I
heard it.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788486 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 08:55 |
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In article <3vpvb21gbl9etdu5ps9h6fdkgodvu73nhq [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:28:15 +0100, Jeremy <jeremy0505 [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I an understand that perfectly - though it doesn't really tie in with
> >your earlier contribution of "A car is a car is a car."
>
> It would if you'd seen the new BMW advert recently.
>
>
<light dawns>
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788487 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 08:59 |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Simon Gates <Simon [at] invalid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>
>> a Honda Jazz
>
> Woman at work, a music freak, has one of these, in gleaming black. It
> looks good. She calls it Satchmo, which made me smile the first time I
> heard it.
Most ones I see around here seem to be in light metallic colours and driven
by pensioners.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788493 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 09:24 |
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On 20 Jul 2006 12:42:21 -0700, "dwb" <parc_erom [at] crossdata.co.uk>
wrote:
>SteveH wrote:
>
>> What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
>> 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
>> on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
>> pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
>
>And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
>mega miles on them are like new.
>
>You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
>want to raise their hand while we're here?
My Volvo's pretty much like new, yes. Now I've had the scratches and
battered bits painted over. Just coming up to 7 yrs/100k miles. The
only clues to its age are things like well-worn steering wheel and
pedals. It still drives better than a brand new new-shape XC70.
Not sure a Skoda, however good they are now, would last quite so well.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788519 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 10:14 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:42:21 -0700, dwb wrote:
> SteveH wrote:
>
>> What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
>> 105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
>> on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
>> pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
>
> And there you go again with the (your?) assertion that cars with (IMO)
> mega miles on them are like new.
>
> You seem to be the only person who (admits to) think this - anyone else
> want to raise their hand while we're here?
<fx:waves>
I sold my Saab 9000 with 170K on it, running sweet as a nut, interior was
very tidy with no rattles
I'm at 160K in my V70 and that is like new inside, no saggy drivers seat
or anything. You have to remember we are talking a £30K cars new. They
should last better than a £15K plastic piece.
I've always tried to buy older but better quality cars as they tend to
handle the mileage/abuse I put on them far better for less e2e running
costs. I'd kill a ford/vauxhall/citreon/renault in less than 4 years and
wouldn't be as comfy in the process.
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FBOTY#2003 PIT#03(KoTL)
XL1000V Varadero, CB250RSA(The Lozzo Tart), Guzzi Mille GT
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788534 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 10:26 |
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entwisi says...
> I'm at 160K in my V70 and that is like new inside, no saggy drivers seat
> or anything. You have to remember we are talking a =A330K cars new. They
> should last better than a =A315K plastic piece.
=20
I'm about to go to work in my 120K mile 3 year old non-turbo Mk4 Golf=20
SDi, the cheapest and lowest spec model in the diesel range. It's in=20
superb condition despite not being looked after at all. The interior is=20
rattle free and still scrubs up better than most 30K mile Fords or=20
Vauxhalls. The paint finish is nothing short of excellent, with hardly a=20
stone chip on it, and this car gets hammered up and down motorways or=20
parked up in London for a large part of its working life. I've just had=20
a full 30K service done which cost 450 quid, but that included a full=20
set of discs and pads[1].
In the 2 years I've been driving it, it has been 100% reliable and apart=20
from normal service items and a mirror it has never needed anything=20
replacing or repairing.
Ben, you should give Golfs a look, and don't worry yourself if they have=20
what you consider to be high mileage, all 10 of the ones we have at work=20
have been 100% reliable with similar mileage to mine. Added bonus is=20
they are relatively cheap to buy.
[1] Something this car alwys needs every 30K mile service. That's the=20
only niggle I have with it.
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GSX-R1000 K1
GSF600SW
"Loz has a god, and this god of his has 16 valves" (tm) Pip, May '06
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788564 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:08 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:26:38 +0100, Lozzo said ...
> I'm about to go to work in my 120K mile 3 year old non-turbo Mk4 Golf
> SDi, the cheapest and lowest spec model in the diesel range. It's in
> superb condition despite not being looked after at all. The interior is
> rattle free and still scrubs up better than most 30K mile Fords or
> Vauxhalls. The paint finish is nothing short of excellent, with hardly a
> stone chip on it, and this car gets hammered up and down motorways or
> parked up in London for a large part of its working life. I've just had
> a full 30K service done which cost 450 quid, but that included a full
> set of discs and pads[1].
>
> In the 2 years I've been driving it, it has been 100% reliable and apart
> from normal service items and a mirror it has never needed anything
> replacing or repairing.
>
> Ben, you should give Golfs a look, and don't worry yourself if they have
> what you consider to be high mileage, all 10 of the ones we have at work
> have been 100% reliable with similar mileage to mine. Added bonus is
> they are relatively cheap to buy.
I'm a fan of high mileage cars, but I have to say I can't agree with the
advice being given here; if Ben has the money to buy a decent, low
mileage model, then he should. It /may/ be that a high mileage example
will be fine, but it's also true it's a bit of a gamble, best done with
small sums of money.
There's also a huge difference between buying a car new or nearly new
and taking it through 100,000 miles, and buying one that's already got
100,000 miles on it. Buying a 100,000 mile car doesn't have to be a
lottery, but it's generally more like Blackjack; being good at spotting
things lowers the odds against losing, but doesn't mean you *can't*
lose.
Ben: cars to think of in that price range: VWs, as Lozzo said, although
I'm not as impressed with their build quality as once I was, Skoda
Octavia (these days better IMHO than VW across the range, build-wise,
despite being the same company), Volvo, as Ace said (still very well
made, although I'd be inclined to buy from a dealer with warranty as
they can be pricey when they do go pop) and yes, by all means check out
a Mondeo; fan though I am of the Focus, the estate version isn't blessed
with huge amounts of space.
I'm not up on BMW 3-series Touring prices, but if a decent one pops up
then I'd be inclined to have a look, and you'd enjoy driving it more
than any of the above. Be aware though that the servicing costs can be
high, unless you find a decent, non-franchise dealer near you.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788565 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:09 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:57:39 +0100, Timo Geusch said ...
> Rope wrote:
> > Sounds daft, but a Rover 75 or MG-ZT - you can pick one up brand new
> > for around 10k, there was a 2.5l MG-ZT estate in a local garage for 5k
>
> There's a reason for that, and it isn't that they're cheap
> made-in-China knock-offs.
Piece. Of. Shit.
Avoid.
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Bear
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788574 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:24 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:12:08 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>In article <v66vb2lke9tv5v0ui078q6sv5otm3rfjb6 [at] 4ax.com>, Ben says...
>takes your fancy...
>>
>> The point behind the diesel is to cut down on running costs because my
>> company mileage rate is pretty poor. I imagine running a 2.2 litre
>> car, even a diesel, might not be the most cost effective.
>>
>> This was why I was originally looking at the 1.8 diesel types.
>
>Over 2.0 litres diesel puts you on a higher per mile rate, if your
>company uses the approved inland revenue figures.
Sadly not. We're 25p per mile irrespective of what you're driving.
Which was good for me with a 1.3 Civic but not quite so good for a
colleague with a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788580 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:29 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:39 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>In article <dc6vb29eq1e0l0thre49k5kpinf0vlo1vt [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> >1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>
>> They're not great for long distance comfort and the boot is dreadful.
>> OK there's room for a bike with the seats down but for big mileages
>> you'd be far better off with a Mondeo as Ginge has suggested (or
>> Vectra).
>
>Disagree, the vectra is horrible and doesn't handle at all well.
yeah, I had a Vectra as a company car at the previous job and I
wouldn't touch one with my own money ever.
>Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
The Mazda 3 looks quite nice as well.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788581 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:29 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:09:07 +0100, Rope <spam [at] ukrm.net> wrote:
>Ben spoke:
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
>Sounds daft, but a Rover 75 or MG-ZT - you can pick one up brand new for
>around 10k, there was a 2.5l MG-ZT estate in a local garage for 5k
I did think of the MG ZTT. But I've very wary about buying something
a) Made in Longbridge [1]
b) That isn't having bits made for it any more and has no dealer
network.
[1] I know people who worked there. I wouldn't trust them to make a
bacon buttie, let alone a car.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788582 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:29 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:28:29 -0000, Simon Gates
<Simon [at] invalid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>
>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>> - air con
>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>> hatch rather than a saloon
>> - diesel
>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>> - comfortable on motorways
>>
>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
>I don't know much about cars, but a Honda Jazz has at least as much room
>inside as a Focus, and is the same size outside as a Fiesta, is dead
>comfy, fast enough for a car, and cost 7K for a 3 year / 12k miles old
>example.
Its proper chic-wheels though. And the previous shape Civics look
horrid, and I can't afford a new shape Civic. If I could then I'd be
having one of them.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788583 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:25 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:00:11 +0100, Daz <none [at] here.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>>1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>
>They're not great for long distance comfort and the boot is dreadful.
>OK there's room for a bike with the seats down but for big mileages
>you'd be far better off with a Mondeo as Ginge has suggested (or
>Vectra).
Must admit, I'm thinking of just buying something silly and not using
it for long distance commutes. The company will pay for any method of
transport so I don't really have to use the car.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788584 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:29 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:00:16 GMT, "Dave H."
<hopefuldave_doesn't_eat_spiced_meat [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Ben" wrote...
>> I want a reasonable size. I'm happy to take wheels off bikes and will
>> usual be carrying 2 plus camping gear. This all goes in my tiny 1.3
>> Civic at the moment, but I'd like a little more space. It' doesn't
>> need to be Volvo huge hence my looking at a mid-sized hatchback in the
>> first place. In the mid hatch range I get a newer car that's cheaper
>> to run as well which is important when your company only pays 25p a
>> mile.
>> --
>Re the 25p a mile, you can claim tax relief on the other 15p a mile for your
>first 10,000 miles.
I know, and I do.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788585 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:30 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:27:08 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original [at] ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>news:e72vb2515lh8sh97n0cu9oklpr4tgeimeq [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>>
>>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>>> - air con
>>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>>> - diesel
>>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>>> --
>>>
>>>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>>
>> My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
>> bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
>> ugly.
>
>But now you've moved the goalposts. Your original criteria didn't include
>"must be attractive to wimmin". You've NO chance now coz you can't get any
>bikes in an MX5.
heh, she's going to be driving it as well. And funnily enough she
doesn't like stuff like MX5s. I'll be buying her a 206 probably as
that's what she wants and that's where the other 3k out of my 10k
budget is going.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788586 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:31 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:57:29 +0100, steve [at] italiancar.co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:
>Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>
>> >Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
>> >speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
>> >;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
>>
>> Good thought, a mate used to have one of those as a company car and we
>> easily got bikes and camping gear in it.
>>
>> A dunno if I'll get one with a low enough mileage for my money, I'll
>> have a mooch around Autotrader.
>
>What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
>105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
>on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
>pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
This arguement has been had already.
Suffice to say, I don't share your view.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788591 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:47 |
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Ben wrote:
> Must admit, I'm thinking of just buying something silly and not using
> it for long distance commutes.
Now you're talking:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120 010184517
btw, my advice to not buy a golf on the grounds you can't get a bike in
it changes when I read you're prepared to remove both wheels.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788595 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 11:54 |
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Nicknoxx wrote:
> Ben wrote:
>
> > Must admit, I'm thinking of just buying something silly and not
> > using it for long distance commutes.
>
> Now you're talking:-
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120 010184517
"OWNED ORIGIONALLY BY POURTSMOUTH BOUROUGH CITY COUNCIL USED TO
TRANSPORT O.A.P'S."
It'll smell of wee.
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788603 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 12:07 |
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Krusty wrote:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120 010184517
>
>
> "OWNED ORIGIONALLY BY POURTSMOUTH BOUROUGH CITY COUNCIL USED TO
> TRANSPORT O.A.P'S."
>
> It'll smell of wee.
>
>
I wouldn't buy this particular van because it doesn't have the original
camper interior, but one which does, like mine, is way better than a VW
camper because they have room for a fridge, hot water heater and cooker
(all gas powered), a shower and loo AND you can stand up inside. Also
they are much cheaper than similar condition VWs but spares, especially
body parts, are becoming rare.
Does this mean I can join the eccentric lover of old vehicles club? ELV#
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SV650
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788605 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 12:05 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:47:32 +0100, Nicknoxx
<nick_remove_ [at] sauce_andhere_fx.com> wrote:
>Ben wrote:
>
>> Must admit, I'm thinking of just buying something silly and not using
>> it for long distance commutes.
>
>Now you're talking:-
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120 010184517
>
>btw, my advice to not buy a golf on the grounds you can't get a bike in
>it changes when I read you're prepared to remove both wheels.
heh, nice idea.
I'm think more like a Jeep Cherokee that I mentioned a little while
back.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788608 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 12:13 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:08:20 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
>There's also a huge difference between buying a car new or nearly new
>and taking it through 100,000 miles, and buying one that's already got
>100,000 miles on it.
That's also a very good point. That's two so far today. We've had our
Volvo since 6months/20k, so I _know_ it's not been well looked after
:-)
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788613 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 12:25 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:31:26 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:57:29 +0100, steve [at] italiancar.co.uk (SteveH)
>wrote:
>
>>Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >Probably get a tidy Mondeo TDCi estate for that. If budget allows, the 6
>>> >speed 130 TDCi isn't actually that bad (it's still a diesel obviously so
>>> >;-) ), but the boot is cavernous.
>>>
>>> Good thought, a mate used to have one of those as a company car and we
>>> easily got bikes and camping gear in it.
>>>
>>> A dunno if I'll get one with a low enough mileage for my money, I'll
>>> have a mooch around Autotrader.
>>
>>What's the big issue with mileage? - you're only going to be putting
>>105k miles on it in the next few years, so even something with 50k miles
>>on it, if bought sensibly (Passat, Golf Estate, Octavia) will still feel
>>pretty much as fresh as a new car at 150k miles.
>
>This arguement has been had already.
>
>Suffice to say, I don't share your view.
Neither do I. Sure, modern cars wear their mileage very well, and, if
you're the driver, you probably don't think they've aged much, cos you
sit it in every day. But, get in a new/nearly new car, and I think
the differences are obvious.
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Champ
ZX10R
GPz750turbo
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788614 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 12:28 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:25:38 +0100, Champ said ...
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:31:26 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
> >This arguement has been had already.
> >
> >Suffice to say, I don't share your view.
>
> Neither do I. Sure, modern cars wear their mileage very well, and, if
> you're the driver, you probably don't think they've aged much, cos you
> sit it in every day. But, get in a new/nearly new car, and I think
> the differences are obvious.
.... is the correct answer.
"Wearing well" or "great for the mileage" is NOT the same as "as fresh
as a new car".
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Bear
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788711 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 17:33 |
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"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
news:tk71c29gfnvk8l0l8i5ieo8gl157r5lsv6 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:27:08 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original [at] ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>news:e72vb2515lh8sh97n0cu9oklpr4tgeimeq [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>>>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines of:
>>>>>
>>>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3 years
>>>>> - air con
>>>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>>>> - diesel
>>>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old Focus
>>>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>>>
>>> My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
>>> bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
>>> ugly.
>>
>>But now you've moved the goalposts. Your original criteria didn't include
>>"must be attractive to wimmin". You've NO chance now coz you can't get any
>>bikes in an MX5.
>
> heh, she's going to be driving it as well. And funnily enough she
> doesn't like stuff like MX5s. I'll be buying her a 206 probably as
> that's what she wants and that's where the other 3k out of my 10k
> budget is going.
She's not just turned 17 and passed her test has she?
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VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788773 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 21:19 |
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Ben wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:43:11 +0100, "JB" <JB [at] nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ben" <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote in message
>> news:hl0vb2djfmn3fo3v1nfo0b1knfiefdmo52 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> I've got about 7 grand and need a second hand car along the lines
>>> of:
>>>
>>> - low mileage because it's got to do 35k a year for the next 3
>>> years
>>> - air con
>>> - able to get a fair bit in the boot (specifically psuhbikes), so a
>>> hatch rather than a saloon
>>> - diesel
>>> - reasonably nippy but doesn't need to be fast
>>> - comfortable on motorways
>>>
>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old
>>> Focus
>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>> --
>>
>> Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
>
> My bikes always go inside the car given their value. A Passat isn't a
> bad idea but I can't see my missus going for it as they're bloody
> ugly.
You think a Focus looks better than a Passat?
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Hog
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788778 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 21:24 |
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Bear wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:57:39 +0100, Timo Geusch said ...
> > Rope wrote:
>
> > > Sounds daft, but a Rover 75 or MG-ZT - you can pick one up brand
> > > new for around 10k, there was a 2.5l MG-ZT estate in a local
> > > garage for 5k
> >
> > There's a reason for that, and it isn't that they're cheap
> > made-in-China knock-offs.
>
> Piece. Of. Shit.
>
> Avoid.
Well, I tried to be a bit more subtle than that, but pretty much - yes.
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788781 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 21:49 |
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JB wrote:
> Passat TDi estate. No sodding about with roofbars/racks etc then.
Why pay for a VW badge.
Skoda Octavia TDi Estate. The new 2.0 PD140 will not be in ytour price
range but you could get a nice 1.9 and take it to the Derv Doctor or
Jabbasport.
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Pete Fisher
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788851 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 00:56 |
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platypus <monotreme [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Simon Gates <Simon [at] invalid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>>
>>> a Honda Jazz
>>
>> Woman at work, a music freak, has one of these, in gleaming black. It
>> looks good. She calls it Satchmo, which made me smile the first time I
>> heard it.
>
> Most ones I see around here seem to be in light metallic colours and driven
> by pensioners.
>
Around here that's true of all cars, except big 4x4 type things, and
shitty rust heaps of indeterminate make.
I saw a Jazz in cream last week, but also one in lime green...
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| Re: Car suggestions [message #788906 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 09:25 |
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Lozzo wrote:
<snip>
>
> Ben, you should give Golfs a look, and don't worry yourself if they
> have what you consider to be high mileage, all 10 of the ones we have
> at work have been 100% reliable with similar mileage to mine. Added
> bonus is they are relatively cheap to buy.
>
> [1] Something this car alwys needs every 30K mile service. That's the
> only niggle I have with it.
I agree with Lozzo
My last car was a 1999 2.0GTI Petrol Golf, and was not bad at all, my main
gripe was it's thirst for oil (which was aparently "normal")
My main reason for buying a Golf was it's residual.
I sold it at 6 years old, with nearly 90K on the clock for £5.5k, which was
quite good I thought.
Despite being badly neglected, and mostly used as a van, it scrubbed up and
polished up like new when I sold it.
Having just this week chucked my job in, I may decide to forego the co-car
route next time, in which case a Golf would be fairly near the top of my
list, although prolly the 150BHP Tdi MK4.
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Dan L (Oldbloke)
dan.yodanet [at] gmail.com
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
Space in shed where NSR125 used to be
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788907 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 09:27 |
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Ben wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:39 +0100, ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE [at] THISgmail.com > wrote:
>
>> In article <dc6vb29eq1e0l0thre49k5kpinf0vlo1vt [at] 4ax.com>, Daz says...
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:23:24 +0100, Ben <ukrm [at] bensales.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking I wouldn't be going too far wrong with a 2 year old
>>>> Focus
>>>> 1.8 diesel but I'm after other ideas.
>>>
>>> They're not great for long distance comfort and the boot is
>>> dreadful. OK there's room for a bike with the seats down but for
>>> big mileages you'd be far better off with a Mondeo as Ginge has
>>> suggested (or Vectra).
>>
>> Disagree, the vectra is horrible and doesn't handle at all well.
>
> yeah, I had a Vectra as a company car at the previous job and I
> wouldn't touch one with my own money ever.
>
>> Mondeo, or... Mazda 6. make better choices.
>
> The Mazda 3 looks quite nice as well.
We got one of those for SWMBO last year, 1.6 Auto.
Very nice car, good quality feel to it.
Not too pricey either, £11k for a '55 plater with bugger all mileage
--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
dan.yodanet [at] gmail.com
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
Space in shed where NSR125 used to be
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788921 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 10:39 |
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788925 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 10:44 |
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deadmail [at] burnt.org.uk wrote:
> "Dan L" <dan.yodanet [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> <4ie296F3cbjnU1 [at] individual.net>:
>
> > We got one of those for SWMBO last year, 1.6 Auto.
> > Very nice car, good quality feel to it.
> >
> > Not too pricey either, £11k for a '55 plater with bugger all mileage
>
> How people justify (to themselves) spending 11k on a car is absolutely
> beyond me.
Me too - anyone knows a decent car costs way more than that. Fucking
pikies.
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Krusty.
http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
http://www.muddystuff.us
Off-road classifieds
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| Re: OT: Car suggestions [message #788926 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 10:47 |
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deadmail [at] burnt.org.uk wrote:
> "Dan L" <dan.yodanet [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> <4ie296F3cbjnU1 [at] individual.net>:
>
>> We got one of those for SWMBO last year, 1.6 Auto.
>> Very nice car, good quality feel to it.
>>
>> Not too pricey either, £11k for a '55 plater with bugger all mileage
>
> How people justify (to themselves) spending 11k on a car is absolutely
> beyond me.
You probably have a very good point there actually, but she chose it, and is
paying for it.
Once my current company car goes back I'll be relegated to using the car we
acquired for my daughter, a V Plate Hyundai Accent that cost absolutely
bugger all.
I guess she bought a fairly expensive car on the basis that we ought to own
at least 1 reasonably new and reliable vehicle.
--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
dan.yodanet [at] gmail.com
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
Space in shed where NSR125 used to be
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
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