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Motorcycles » uk.rec.motorcycles » Back brake problem
| Re: Back brake problem [message #788328 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 17:52 |
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Matt Chapter says...
> Lozzo wrote:
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> > Matt Chapter says...
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> > > possibly the pads are worn?
> >
> > New pads less than 2000 miles ago, and I've hardly touched the rear
> > brake becauise it's awkward to operate. They are barely worn in.
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> New brake pads... Sacrilege, I say!
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> It's obvious you use the rear brake too much. [1]
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> [1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
From this it is obvious that you, sir, ride like a girl.
My Gixer gets through a set of front pads every 4000 miles max, at
approx 95 quid a set. That's the trade price, by the way.
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Lozzo
GSX-R1000 K1
GSF600SW
"Loz has a god, and this god of his has 16 valves" (tm) Pip, May '06
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788332 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 17:54 |
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Matt Chapter wrote
>[1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
An odd thing to be proud of, do you only ride at one speed?
>--
and yer sg is broked
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steve auvache
i rate dates
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788345 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:37 |
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Lozzo wrote:
> Matt Chapter says...
> > [1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
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> From this it is obvious that you, sir, ride like a girl.
While possible, it's more likely that my right hand is busy holding
open the throttle so the f'kin thing doesn't stall every time I stop.
Also bearing in mind it isn't terribly fast to start with.. and the
pads are like rocks. From the 70's.
> My Gixer gets through a set of front pads every 4000 miles max, at
> approx 95 quid a set. That's the trade price, by the way.
One of many reasons I don't own anything nearly so new / powerful.[1] I
just replaced the pads on the BMW with about 23,000 on the clock.
[1] Another being that I'd probably bin it right quickly.
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Matt Chapter
DoD #2225
'76 CB400F '86 R65
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788347 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:41 |
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steve auvache wrote:
> Matt Chapter wrote
> >[1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
> An odd thing to be proud of, do you only ride at one speed?
That's not what this pile of citations sez.
Who says I'm proud of it? I'm waiting for those pads to die, die,
die... I'm just too cheap to change 'em before they're cooked.
> and yer sg is broked
Meh..google gropes sucks!
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Matt Chapter
DoD #2225
'76 CB400F '86R65
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788352 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 18:56 |
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Matt Chapter says...
> Lozzo wrote:
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> > Matt Chapter says...
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> > > [1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
> >
> > From this it is obvious that you, sir, ride like a girl.
>
> While possible, it's more likely that my right hand is busy holding
> open the throttle so the f'kin thing doesn't stall every time I stop.
> Also bearing in mind it isn't terribly fast to start with.. and the
> pads are like rocks. From the 70's.
I've just clocked what CB it is that you own. I can go long with that,
the pads on my old CB250RS were in that bike for at least 60,000 miles,
and showed almost no signs of wear. The brakes didn't work very well
when they were used, but you stopped eventually.
> > My Gixer gets through a set of front pads every 4000 miles max, at
> > approx 95 quid a set. That's the trade price, by the way.
>
> One of many reasons I don't own anything nearly so new / powerful.[1] I
> just replaced the pads on the BMW with about 23,000 on the clock.
You really are easy on the brakes, aren't you.
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Lozzo
GSX-R1000 K1
GSF600SW
"Loz has a god, and this god of his has 16 valves" (tm) Pip, May '06
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788365 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 19:34 |
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Lozzo wrote:
> Matt Chapter says...
> I've just clocked what CB it is that you own. I can go long with that,
> the pads on my old CB250RS were in that bike for at least 60,000 miles,
> and showed almost no signs of wear. The brakes didn't work very well
> when they were used, but you stopped eventually.
Dear god I hope this set doesn't last that long.. They get the job
done, but that's it. I've got SS lines on there now, but it didn't
make nearly as much difference as I'd hoped / thought.
> > One of many reasons I don't own anything nearly so new / powerful.[1] I
> > just replaced the pads on the BMW with about 23,000 on the clock.
> You really are easy on the brakes, aren't you.
I don't *think* so, but I'd never really considered it till now - I
don't ride with others much so don't have direct comparisions. I'm not
a big fan of slowing down, anyways.
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Matt Chapter
DoD #2225
'76 CB400F '86 R65
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788388 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:05 |
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Matt Chapter <mchapter [at] ratzemyze.com> wrote:
> Lozzo wrote:
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> > Matt Chapter says...
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> > > possibly the pads are worn?
> >
> > New pads less than 2000 miles ago, and I've hardly touched the rear
> > brake becauise it's awkward to operate. They are barely worn in.
>
> New brake pads... Sacrilege, I say!
>
> It's obvious you use the rear brake too much. [1]
>
> [1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
My 750SS still has them at 28k!
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Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #788404 ] |
Thu, 20 July 2006 21:59 |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:05:42 +0100,
chateau.murraySPAMKILL [at] dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Matt Chapter <mchapter [at] ratzemyze.com> wrote:
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>> Lozzo wrote:
>>
>> > Matt Chapter says...
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>> > > possibly the pads are worn?
>> >
>> > New pads less than 2000 miles ago, and I've hardly touched the rear
>> > brake becauise it's awkward to operate. They are barely worn in.
>>
>> New brake pads... Sacrilege, I say!
>>
>> It's obvious you use the rear brake too much. [1]
>>
>> [1] My CB still has the original *front* brake pads at ~20,000 miles.
>
>
>My 750SS still has them at 28k!
Is it on the original spark plugs?
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Chris
VN1500-j1 (Gertrude) Twice the fun at half the speed.
chris.desclayes at ffcc dot powernet dot co dot uk
But minus one "f"
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789094 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 20:53 |
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Lozzo? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
> Mark Olson says...
> > Lozzo <lozzo [at] lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Not so much of a problem as a niggle.
> > >
> > > The Bindit rear brake has excessive travel before the pads engage
> > > the disc.
> <snip>
>
> > > Come on, what's up with it?
> >
> > My favorite hobby-horse: did you (or someone else) fit the piston
> > seals the wrong way round? That is-- if they have a trapezoidal
> > cross section rather than rectangular, there is a right and a wrong
> > way to insert them.
>
> Bandit caliper seals are rectangular, you can't get them wrong.
>
> > Other than that, I have no idea. How far back the pistons retract
> > should have nothing whatsoever to do with the master cylinder,
> > since they should 'ratchet' to the proper position.
>
> If the pistons retract a long way, then you'll need more lever
> movement to engage the pads next time round. Stands to reason,
> dunnit?
The pistons shouldn't retract a long way though, the rachet should
"rach" and stop them from coming back any further.
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frag
Suzuki VStrom 1000 K2, Honda Africa Twin, Volvo S80 2.4 170
BOTAFOT#6, DS#5, exKoTBOTAFOTL, DFV#3, BOD#7MKA&E#1 (Oak Leaf Cluster)
UKRMHRC#11 UK-R-M FAQ : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789095 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 20:54 |
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Lozzo? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
> New m/cyl is the first choice, then maybe a used caliper if that
> doesn't work. Either way, I won't let it beat me.
Yep, a new motorcycle would cure the problem for sure.
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frag
Suzuki VStrom 1000 K2, Honda Africa Twin, Volvo S80 2.4 170
BOTAFOT#6, DS#5, exKoTBOTAFOTL, DFV#3, BOD#7MKA&E#1 (Oak Leaf Cluster)
UKRMHRC#11 UK-R-M FAQ : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789330 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 16:58 |
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789521 ] |
Mon, 24 July 2006 01:22 |
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frag says...
> Lozzo? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
> > If the pistons retract a long way, then you'll need more lever
> > movement to engage the pads next time round. Stands to reason,
> > dunnit?
>
> The pistons shouldn't retract a long way though, the rachet should
> "rach" and stop them from coming back any further.
What ratchet?
Frag, have you ever taken a bike caliper apart? There are never ratchet
systems involved.
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Lozzo
GSX-R1000 K1
GSF600SW
"Loz has a god, and this god of his has 16 valves" (tm) Pip, May '06
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789525 ] |
Mon, 24 July 2006 01:22 |
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Lozzo <lozzo [at] lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> frag says...
> > Lozzo? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
>
> > > If the pistons retract a long way, then you'll need more lever
> > > movement to engage the pads next time round. Stands to reason,
> > > dunnit?
> >
> > The pistons shouldn't retract a long way though, the rachet should
> > "rach" and stop them from coming back any further.
>
> What ratchet?
>
> Frag, have you ever taken a bike caliper apart? There are never ratchet
> systems involved.
It's so easy to get cam tensioner and brake caliper mixed up. :)
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<insert coin to play>
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| Re: Back brake problem [message #789535 ] |
Mon, 24 July 2006 01:22 |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Lozzo <lozzo [at] lozzo.org.uk> saying
something like:
>> The pistons shouldn't retract a long way though, the rachet should
>> "rach" and stop them from coming back any further.
>
>What ratchet?
>
>Frag, have you ever taken a bike caliper apart? There are never ratchet
>systems involved.
The inherent rat shittiness of the rubber.
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
Every post contains Nutri-Ceramide-R and Pre-Biotics
for your reading pleasure.
Folding [at] Home Team UKRM http://www.tinyurl.com/jkxwv
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